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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.09.13 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 12:43:13
A corpmate of mine has been playing with exploration for a while, he's found some nice stuff.. and done some plexes that werent worth the deadspace pockets in which they resided.
the information on the exploration site we found can be found Here.
we shot the control tower... and then a spawn showed up.
to our knowledge... the 4th post trigger stage of 40 BS and over 35 BC's has never been completed. with good reason.
LINK: RAW FRAPS (13 seconds long... but very epic..)
LINK: SCREENSHOT
We destroyed the tower at the end, with no decent loot, however the escalation we recieved dropped a Centum A-type EANM sold HERE. It also dropped some cheaper faction items which we split between people who needed/wanted them.
*AtlantisX found the original exploration site, and guided us through the rest in his raven.
*Lawrence Bruno, the second member of our gang, flew a typhoon, for damage, and until the blob showed up, helped tank the sites too.
I dont recommend you try that plex, without multiple carriers, or as in our case, a bored mothership pilot. We considered using battleships, but to tank that much dps would have been impossible without a small fleet of logistics boats.
i'd estimate, that the spawn in the screenshot/fraps was dealing around 6k-7k dps. it was incredible.
we counted before we started shooting.
39-41 battleships. 34-35 Battlecruisers. 1 Frigate (dont know if he was tackling... the MS cant be scrammed by him anyway)
EDIT: mission was not gated. but caps can enter most plexes. simply warp to gang member who is in the plex, u will land at gate, warp out again, and warp to gang member, u will land on ur gangmate.
EPIC.
-RoCkEt X.
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.13 13:17:00 -
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you fail at exploration plex :P
you can easy do it solo if you do agro management :)
every time you shoot that pos strukture you trigger a spawn.. about 5 in total with 6 bs or so in eatch.. so if you take out the spawn one at a time its not hard at all :) theres some other escalation complexes like this, cant remeber the names but atleast 3/10, 6/10 and 10/10 have the seturktures that triger multiple respawns and smartbombs. I did the serp 10/10 exploration site with ishtar tank + oneiros okish and some friends allmost lost caps to same site when triggering all spawns at once :)
I that 6/10 plex I think the 3rd site is hardest with drones :) I hate drones :(
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.09.13 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 14:50:37 heh, nice thought, but this wasnt a plex, it was an escalation. i shot it with a single ogre I, and got everything u see there within 5 seconds of eachother.
and you gotta admit, we did ours in style, and in about 35mins... which meant we didnt get bored =)
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methodmo
Free Lapland The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.09.13 15:06:00 -
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i took a good look at that screeny and its actually very easy to tank that solo
i played almost any plex/exploration site there is and i never needed help tanking/killing the rats in any site/plex i've played sites that r atleast twice as hard as a regulair 10/10 plex so i know what i am talking about
seems to me that u r inexperianced in exploration.... before u play something like that one again i advise u to get more info on a site before u get into something u dont know so u can adapt your ship to the site/plex u find...once u can manage that its just a matter of skills :P
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.09.13 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 15:30:11 i dont do much exploration, plus, once you already spawned all that, there isnt much you can do about it even with logistics etc. and the whole point of exploration is that its less predictale lol.
and easy to tank my ass lol. you wont tank that without 3-4 logistics ships minimum and a high resistance tanked BS/CS. someone who looks at a screen of BS's. and says 'yeah thats easy to tank SOLO' clearly needs to take thier foot out thier ass.
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Miss Behaviour
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Posted - 2008.09.13 16:22:00 -
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Jesus take the mom outta there, so much fail
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.13 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 15:30:11 i dont do much exploration, plus, once you already spawned all that, there isnt much you can do about it even with logistics etc. and the whole point of exploration is that its less predictale lol.
and easy to tank my ass lol. you wont tank that without 3-4 logistics ships minimum and a high resistance tanked BS/CS. someone who looks at a screen of BS's. and says 'yeah thats easy to tank SOLO' clearly needs to take thier foot out thier ass.
yes you can tank that easy with range or speed :) its not even deadspace so just fit a mwd on a vigil and laugh at the npc's
I use a ishtar with mwd mostly and only thing it cant handle is multiple neut batterys so for higher end plexes I use a drake or logistic to boost the ishtar. --------
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.13 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 14:50:37 heh, nice thought, but this wasnt a plex, it was an escalation. i shot it with a single ogre I, and got everything u see there within 5 seconds of eachother.
and you gotta admit, we did ours in style, and in about 35mins... which meant we didnt get bored =)
I know it wasnt a DED plex but a 6/10 ish exploration thingy (a-type cruier loot), not done the sansha one but I done guristas, serps and angel version several times and they are easy. well one time I allso spawned all at one time but then I just sniped the POS strukture and got escalation without killing the npc's.
and I bet that ogre left shooting that pos strukt while you laged out of th enpcs spawning and it shot the pos more and more... I did that in a 3/10 ending up having 50+ cruisers chasing me :P --------
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.13 17:30:00 -
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looks like about 5000 potential dps, would be alot lower thanks to tracking/sig radius etc if u were in anything other than a supercap tbh. If you were in a hac/cs etc i would think more like 2500 even without speed tanking totally with MWD (if its possible for that one). With deadspace mods, nice implants etc that is certainly possible. Ofc you could just bring along one freind in a logistics and just fit t2/faction.
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.09.13 17:35:00 -
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we used the MS basically because the local space was hostile, and it couldnt be pinned by rats if hostiles showed up, and btw nano/speed isnt really tanking =) unless ur minmatar, then ur ship is designed with holes in so people can shoot through you and miss
xD
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methodmo
Free Lapland The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.09.13 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 15:30:11
and easy to tank my ass lol. you wont tank that without 3-4 logistics ships minimum and a high resistance tanked BS/CS. someone who looks at a screen of BS's. and says 'yeah thats easy to tank SOLO' clearly needs to take thier foot out thier ass.
wanna bet it takes just 1 hac to tank it
cerb/ishtar/vaga choose one u like and dive in
like i said before u r a noob in exploration so dont doubt any advise from an experianced player like me...
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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2008.09.14 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Rawthorm on 14/09/2008 06:23:19
Originally by: RoCkEt X Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 14:50:37 heh, nice thought, but this wasnt a plex, it was an escalation. i shot it with a single ogre I, and got everything u see there within 5 seconds of eachother.
and you gotta admit, we did ours in style, and in about 35mins... which meant we didnt get bored =)
I've done this plex/escelation/whatever before and I know for a fact it doesnt spawn all at once unless you've let ur drone do damage unchecked
We did it with 2 hacs.
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Malefic Windblow
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Posted - 2008.09.14 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X [minmatar] ship is designed with holes in so people can shoot through you and miss
So true, so true...
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.14 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 14/09/2008 06:23:19
Originally by: RoCkEt X Edited by: RoCkEt X on 13/09/2008 14:50:37 heh, nice thought, but this wasnt a plex, it was an escalation. i shot it with a single ogre I, and got everything u see there within 5 seconds of eachother.
and you gotta admit, we did ours in style, and in about 35mins... which meant we didnt get bored =)
I've done this plex/escelation/whatever before and I know for a fact it doesnt spawn all at once unless you've let ur drone do damage unchecked
We did it with 2 hacs.
you should have used a nyx! :P --------
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heheheh
PedoHamma
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Posted - 2008.09.14 11:31:00 -
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yes it is tanked easily, dont laugh at people telling you the truth its rude !! A tank doesnt have to involve sitting there soaking up the damage.
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Yuvong
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Posted - 2008.09.15 06:05:00 -
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Use a passive tanked broadsword = win against sansha plexes
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Myyona
Minmatar Ataraxia Pharmacies
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Posted - 2008.09.15 10:52:00 -
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If I had a mother ship, I too would use it to plow through 40 NPC battleships in 35 minutes for fun. I mean, is there something wrong with overkill?
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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2008.09.15 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas you should have used a nyx! :P
Probably not the best plan in northern low sec atm
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oogs
Gallente Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.09.15 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Myyona If I had a mother ship, I too would use it to plow through 40 NPC battleships in 35 minutes for fun. I mean, is there something wrong with overkill?
This. Regardless of the triggering mechanism, I would want to use my mothership to it's fullest :) besides, that looks like a heck of a lot of fun...
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MinmatarCitizen 90242
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.09.16 01:18:00 -
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'sword + bassie. No worries mate.
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sahtila
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.16 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: sahtila on 16/09/2008 11:51:30 Peoples saying this is easy to do without caps: how exactly you speed tank it? There is end boss who alone does 1700dps+, has 155km optimal and huge tracking (better than 125mm autocannon or small electron blaster).
http://eveinfo.com/npcship/26793/eve-online-colonial-master-diabolus-maytor.html
Edit: hmm thats low sec version, maybe that uber end boss is not there...
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ellie mayer
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Posted - 2008.09.16 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: oogs
Originally by: Myyona If I had a mother ship, I too would use it to plow through 40 NPC battleships in 35 minutes for fun. I mean, is there something wrong with overkill?
This. Regardless of the triggering mechanism, I would want to use my mothership to it's fullest :) besides, that looks like a heck of a lot of fun...
Same tbh, look's like was a hell of a lot of fun, more so than grinding the same ol missions/sites by the paint by numbers guides.
Well done and to all the ones saying he doing it wrong bet if YOU had that ship available you'd do the same !
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methodmo
Free Lapland The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.09.16 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: ellie mayer
Originally by: oogs
Originally by: Myyona If I had a mother ship, I too would use it to plow through 40 NPC battleships in 35 minutes for fun. I mean, is there something wrong with overkill?
Well done and to all the ones saying he doing it wrong bet if YOU had that ship available you'd do the same !
no i would'nt i do own 2 moms and i still prefer my ishtar/vaga/cerb over any ship to play a plex/site
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.16 23:52:00 -
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I guess you could tank it if you used the right ship. On the screenshot i see a shield tank and sansha rats, that simply won't work. Maybe try a command ship with natural high EM (armor) restistances, or find a similar plex with rats that do explosive or thermal, if you insist on shieldtanking.
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Black Jumper
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.17 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: Black Jumper on 17/09/2008 02:05:23
Originally by: methodmo
i played almost any plex/exploration site there is and i never needed help tanking/killing the rats in any site/plex
No you haven't. 1 - Some structures are impossible to kill with just one ship. 2 - I know for a fact one End Complex Boss impossible to tank with just a ship.
As for the plex mentionned by the op, you probably have to figure the trigger mechanismes for the NPC spawns.
Good luck out there ! Black --- 22:31:49 Notify Archon belonging to Galavet self-destructs. |
the thorn
Tres Viri Guard Tres Viri
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:03:00 -
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we have done the escalation yesterday, without caps.(we thought about it, but we decided against it.)
if you don't aggro everything at once, you can easily do all stages with cruise ravens at long range.
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: eXtas on 17/09/2008 08:19:32
Originally by: Black Jumper Edited by: Black Jumper on 17/09/2008 02:05:23
Originally by: methodmo
i played almost any plex/exploration site there is and i never needed help tanking/killing the rats in any site/plex
No you haven't. 1 - Some structures are impossible to kill with just one ship. 2 - I know for a fact one End Complex Boss impossible to tank with just a ship.
As for the plex mentionned by the op, you probably have to figure the trigger mechanismes for the NPC spawns.
Good luck out there ! Black
all lowsec sites are (they go up to 7/10) only the hardest explorations sites are impssible to solo (because of neut towers, webb towers, citadel torps) well solo without using a cap ship :) --------
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.18 11:33:00 -
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Hey Rocket, good to see your still doing well mate.
IIRC, i did this plex before, only dropped me a a-type em membrane. The trigger was, like said before, the tower. Every SINGLE time you shoot that tower, a new spawn arrives. I guess the problem was, because you pulled that ogre at the tower, he shot a few rounds wich makes all the spawns arrive within.....20seconds.
Its all about finding out the aggro management, wich can be a big pain in the ass (trail and error, anyone?). In any way, i dont think its possible solo, but yeah, since you spawned the lot, i guess that mothership was the latter to complete it
And iirc, i figured i couldnt do that plex on my own, so i used a deadspace tank domi (em/thermal hardeners/dual rep), 2 drakes for 'damage' and a guardian on standby. It took us alot longer to finish it ofcoarse, but it still did the trick.
And the funny part is, if you compare the difficulty of c-type plexes and a-type plexes....those a types are MUCHOS harder (especially in therms of quantity of battleships etc). ***Sig***
Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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