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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
1994
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:17:00 -
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One of the wonderfully cool things shown at Fanfest 2012 was the Tesselation Tech Demo we did in cooperation with Nvidia. Check it out and note that we'll have the full recording of the tech demo out soon for those who missed it at Fanfest or on EVE TV.
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
535
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:24:00 -
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First?
Woot \o/
I'd like to thank The Mittani for distracting everyone so I could have my First First on a devblog. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:25:00 -
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I'm in favour but I'd like to know the opportunity cost. What would that team be doing if not working on tesselation.... Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2914
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:26:00 -
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Sweet!
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Boris Lachenkov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:27:00 -
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Any chance of getting this released as a stand alone tech demo that we can all have a look at? Would be interesting to see how my PC copes with such sexyness.
Please? :3 |
Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:28:00 -
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I do love myself some upgraded graphics, but I'm with Pattern - what development area(s) might suffer if a lot of focus is put towards DX11? I want some new epic stuff, but I want the old stuff done right too. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
536
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:29:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:I'm in favour but I'd like to know the opportunity cost. What would that team be doing if not working on tesselation....
Looks like it's going to be a CARBON team, not an EVE team working on this. The new physics demo they didn't touch on either - but it would be a rebuild of DESTINY physics engine as well as a whole package for this.
Basically, DESTINY NEEDS AN UPGRADE as far as I'm concerned. Like - seriously. 2001 Physics in my EVE?
I want bounding Spheres to go away, etc. So we stop colliding with NOTHING in space.
That alone is worth a review of these 2 systems. Physics + Tesselation
They Physselation project must go!
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Natural Progression
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:29:00 -
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Boris Lachenkov wrote:Any chance of getting this released as a stand alone tech demo that we can all have a look at? Would be interesting to see how my PC copes with such sexyness.
Please? :3
I don't think that would be relevant since it's not running in the Trinity engine. However, a tech demo within EVE's Trinity engine would be great to assess the impact this will have on framerate.
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Bayushi Tamago
Tribuo Quod Victum The AirShip Pirates
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:30:00 -
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I'm also rather concerned my computer will not be up to the task of that level of detail. Will the introduction of dx11/tesselation cause the culling of a lot of players without high end computers, or shall it be an optional graphics update? |
Avvalina
DVA Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:31:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:I'm in favour but I'd like to know the opportunity cost. What would that team be doing if not working on tesselation.... Over the long term, the OC might be lost players. It's good to keep graphics close to the forefront. I would suspect that no one wants to play a dated-looking game unless it was an option to increase performance on older machines. |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:31:00 -
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Want! Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme.
*grabby hand motions* FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
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CCP Solomon
C C P C C P Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:32:00 -
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Boris Lachenkov wrote:Any chance of getting this released as a stand alone tech demo that we can all have a look at? Would be interesting to see how my PC copes with such sexyness.
Please? :3
It has been discussed for sure but there is no solid commitment at this stage. Associate Technical Producer - Foundation Technology |
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Ines Fy
Heroes of the Past Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:39:00 -
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Boris Lachenkov wrote:Any chance of getting this released as a stand alone tech demo that we can all have a look at? Would be interesting to see how my PC copes with such sexyness.
Please? :3
this ^ |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:43:00 -
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CCP Solomon wrote:Boris Lachenkov wrote:Any chance of getting this released as a stand alone tech demo that we can all have a look at? Would be interesting to see how my PC copes with such sexyness.
Please? :3 It has been discussed for sure but there is no solid commitment at this stage. It would be such a boon to the players...
By the way: yeah I think team Carbon would be good for this. They tie this to EvE and WoD too and profit... twice... (or they tie this to Dust too and profit... tripple!) |
Rikki Sals
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:44:00 -
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DirectX 11 looks awesome. Would it be difficult or practical to add other options for AA effects as well? PhysX I'm less excited about, since it locks you into one manufacturer's products for full support. |
Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit Sentient World Observation and Response Directive
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:45:00 -
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Bayushi Tamago wrote:I'm also rather concerned my computer will not be up to the task of that level of detail. Will the introduction of dx11/tesselation cause the culling of a lot of players without high end computers, or shall it be an optional graphics update?
Tessellation would be an optional feature the same way that you can toggle shadows on and off. The update itself would be rather small as all its changing is code in the graphics engine - tessellation is able to produce the higher quality graphics by using the already existing art assets.
The demo was made using a latest gen but mid range gfx card. By the time the feature makes it into the game most cards should be able to handle tessellation just fine. |
darmwand
Repo.
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:46:00 -
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Just curious: is it safe to assume that this is a DirectX feature and not limited to nVidia cards?
Edit: also, looks very promising, I'm looking forward to watching my nicely redone Ishkur in even more detail! darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
168
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:50:00 -
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do it
but make sure that not a single actual feature that delivers more than pure eyecandy is left behind even for hours |
Sunoccard
Valor Inc. Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:54:00 -
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This is cool stuff, and as I see it, will be inevitable at some point down the line to keep the game looking amazing. How soon this should be is a different matter. I don't see this being something that the art team has to do, but something for the programmers. So what will be put on hold to code and implement this ?
They said it would take ( IIRC) about 1 man year to finish this, so I figure it'll have to be a prominent part of a expansion. If this is the case then I would like to see it happen sooner rather than later. |
Svennig
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:56:00 -
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This looks amazing and I'd love to see it happen, provided that it doesn't conflict with other things. For example, if it was a choice of tessilation or the new UI that we saw some mockups of, then it's the UI hands down. |
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The Wordinater
Recreational Muggings
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:03:00 -
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Sunoccard wrote:This is cool stuff, and as I see it, will be inevitable at some point down the line to keep the game looking amazing. How soon this should be is a different matter. I don't see this being something that the art team has to do, but something for the programmers. So what will be put on hold to code and implement this ?
They said it would take ( IIRC) about 1 man year to finish this, so I figure it'll have to be a prominent part of a expansion. If this is the case then I would like to see it happen sooner rather than later.
They said 5 man years, so a team would take 1 year to finish it. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
303
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:22:00 -
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darmwand wrote:Just curious: is it safe to assume that this is a DirectX feature and not limited to nVidia cards?
Edit: also, looks very promising, I'm looking forward to watching my nicely redone Ishkur in even more detail!
Tesselation runs on all DX11 cards, nvidia or not.
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Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:23:00 -
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It looks good but EVE looks still really gorgeous on my computer, so I don't feel the need of it, especially if this means I have to buy a new machine.
Moreover I don't see this much difference. It would be nice to have physix integrated in the EVE physics simulation, but this would probably be really harder... possibly CCP could begin to study how to do it.
I would schedule tessellation for 2014 or so. |
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:27:00 -
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Woot! Just what the game needs aside from a hundred dozen or so fixes. Better-looking internet spaceships!!!
Any idea when it will be deployed? Aside from Soon(tm)? |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
563
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:27:00 -
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What happens to us who's OS uses OpenGL? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:30:00 -
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Truly beautiful stuff, and I'm constantly impressed at how the world of graphics continues to improve and develop new, cool technology. Since this won't affect people who can't use it, and it will make the game gorgeous for people who can, I don't see a downside to adding this at all. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
GRIEV3R
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
22
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:33:00 -
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
shut up and take my money! :D :D |
Mors Magne
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:36:00 -
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This is excellent!
This attitude is far more positive compared to Blizzard, where they are "not changing things up" for WoW. |
Tom Bodett
Motel 6 SETEC Astronomy LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:39:00 -
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DirectX 11 support would be great.
What about supporting Multithreaded rendering which is part of DirectX 11? |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:43:00 -
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I would buy a DX11 card for this no questions asked. Of course I wouldn't need to but tessellation is such a sexy effect to have on EVE and I imagine it would really bring some visual depth to the game.
Plus when we eventually get Incarna type gameplay, the visual difference between WIS and FIS would barely be noticeable |
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