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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:33:00 -
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currently...
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/17248/eve-online-fanfest-panel-accused-of-tasteless-behavoir
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/news/eve-fanfest-alliance-panel-leads-to-controversy-for-csm-chairman
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-26-ccp-launches-investigation-after-eve-online-fanfest-panel-accused-of-mocking-suicidal-player
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-eve-online-fanfest-panel-mocking-suicidal-player
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116503-Eve-Online-Panel-Encourages-Harassing-Suicidal-Player
http://lorehound.com/mmos/ccp-launches-anti-bullying-investigate-in-response-to-eve-fanfest-player-panel/
http://kotaku.com/5896611/suicidal-player-laughed-at-then-trolled-at-eve-online-gathering
http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/27/eve-online-player-apologises-for-bullying-incident-at-ccp-fanfest/
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/
http://mmoattack.com/mmorpg-news/ccp-launches-investigation-accusation-eve-online-fanfest-panel-disrespecting-suicidal-player/
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/bully-pulpit/
http://www.gamingcentrum.com/2012/03/report-suicidal-player-laughed-at-then-trolled-at-eve-online-gathering-update-eve-online/
http://www.thegameeffect.com/news/regarding-the-eve-fanfest-bullying-scandal
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5806/article/eve-online-bully-apologizes-for-bullying-at-ccp-fest/
http://www.bethegamer.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying-updated/
http://www.grizzledgamer.com/index.php/game-news/pc-games/134293-eve-fanfest-alliance-panel-leads-to-controversy-for-csm-chairman-ten-ton-hammer
http://www.develop-online.net/news/40327/Eve-man-ashamed-and-sorry-for-suicide-jokes
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Grumpy Owly
430
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:36:00 -
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Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1367
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:36:00 -
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Holy crap... EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
303
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:37:00 -
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So you managed to spread the word. Good for you. You want a cookie? |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
479
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:37:00 -
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The hilarious thing? All these sites are citing each other, who are all citing a known anti-Goonswarm troll blog. This is quite literally a manufactured scandal by a bunch of crybabies who can't stand the idea that Mittani got THE BIGGEST MANDATE IN EVE HISTORY.
In short:
You mad, pubbie? It sounds like you're mad. Definitely could be mad. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:40:00 -
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A pity ... there was like 4 or 5 articles about the fanfest itself before this mess... To the whiners :-áCCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" CCP Recurve "However, Incursions are not the biggest ISK faucet, bounties are"
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Bill Banner
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:42:00 -
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The die is cast.
This bonehead screwed up, apologized, and is now being dragged further underwater by his constituency.
I'm still waiting for step 2. |
Cybarite
YARRRDIES Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:44:00 -
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why must you people persist in making the rest of us out to be raging autistic manchildren. Just quit and get on with your lives, christ. |
Alexis Zyl
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:44:00 -
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Players are shocked when EVE, a game renowned for its cruelty and harshness, generates cruel and harsh commentary/behavior. Who ever would have thought such a result would be possible? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5814
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:45:00 -
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There's a whole lot of echo in that chamberGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
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gfldex
405
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:45:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Bad publicity is good publicity or? Discuss.
I think you are a bit of an expert in those matters, don't you? :->
Lets burn down Carebears-Online and rise Everlasting-Fun-Online from it's ashes. |
WNxWolfy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:46:00 -
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Cybarite wrote:why must you people persist in making the rest of us out to be raging autistic manchildren. Just quit and get on with your lives, christ. You misspelt "exposing us as" |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
917
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:46:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Ammzi wrote:Bad publicity is good publicity or? Discuss. I think you are a bit of an expert in those matters, don't you? :->
Well it didn't work well for me. Who knows, Mittani is a special person according to the CFC. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Ai Shun
424
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:46:00 -
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Yeah, none of this is helped by the constant barrage of Goon shitposting either. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
342
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:48:00 -
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Xython, you are ******* moron.
This is by a massive margin the worst publicity blow for CCP in the history of EVE, and the only one to blame for it is The Mittani. You have to be really thick not to see that.
And you know what? CCP would lose nothing by booting him from the chair. No game company in the world wants this kind of publicity, and if it comes to the choice of replacing the chairman, it's a pretty easy decision between money and a few butthurt goons.
And fwiw, I could have voted for him and still could, it was a drunken joke went bad, but the fact is that it simply looks terrible to outsiders. No trolling, whining or this internal shitstorm can change the amount of damage this caused to EVE's public image.
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Fractal Muse
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:49:00 -
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I'm curious to see if the story escapes niche markets and hits more popular "news" sites.
This can turn into good publicity for CCP if they address the issue appropriately. So far they've made a stab at it, but they haven't gone far enough. They need to do another press release clearing the air as to what the panel was, what will happen (if anything) to The Mittani, that they offered the player (The Wis) a free name change, and what their Suicide Watch policy entails.
They can totally swing this into showing off what CCP and EVE Online does to assist those with challenges.
Or they can allow the story to grow on its own and become something very negative to the community.
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Elindreal
Planetary Interactors
82
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:50:00 -
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It's sort of ironic that internet spaceship politicians and their supporters can take the CSM chair so seriously.
And then when their very own internet spaceship constituents call out in Jita protest, they're all suddenly "u mad bro?"
Spaceship protest!!! It's now part of the game, whether you like it or not. |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:50:00 -
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well the majority can see the difference between in game and RL
if you read your CEO-¦s apology read it again , it has strong hints ... ingame .. out of game behavior
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
481
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:50:00 -
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Roime wrote:Xython, you are ******* moron.
This is by a massive margin the worst publicity blow for CCP in the history of EVE, and the only one to blame for it is The Mittani. You have to be really thick not to see that.
Fainting couches are over to the right. Do try to avoid all the NCdot and RaidenDOT titan pilots, they've had a bad week.
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Ganagati
Perkone Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:51:00 -
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The Mittani already promised that he would step down. He is a non-factor now. For him to break that promise would destroy the fail that everyone has placed in him, and would undermine the whole point of him being there.
Once he has been replaced, things will simmer down. Its good that he is a man of his word, though. It would look terrible if he found some excuse to avoid it. "Oh well, guess I cant leave after all! Tooooo bad" Proof Titans are rare (just another null battle): http://i.imgur.com/CY6x4.jpg-áBattles in EVE can look kinda silly sometimes, huh? |
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gfldex
405
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:52:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Well it didn't work well for me. Who knows, Mittani is a special person according to the CFC.
My position on the whole thing is quite simple. The Wiz is now aware of the situation and if he wishes so he can petition The Mittani. The result would be a temp ban. I know because I got somebody a 3 day ban that way. (You don't want to know my IP address or where my house is. At least you don't want to tell me that you know in an eve mail.)
So the whole media hype is completely out of proportion and only shows the lack of professionalism of those so called journalists.
At the other hand The Wiz could be generous and accept the public apologise and become a internet spaceship hero. You fancy telling him about his options?
Lets burn down Carebears-Online and rise Everlasting-Fun-Online from it's ashes. |
Cybarite
YARRRDIES Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:52:00 -
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Roime wrote:Xython, you are ******* moron.
This is by a massive margin the worst publicity blow for CCP in the history of EVE, and the only one to blame for it is The Mittani. You have to be really thick not to see that.
And you know what? CCP would lose nothing by booting him from the chair. No game company in the world wants this kind of publicity, and if it comes to the choice of replacing the chairman, it's a pretty easy decision between money and a few butthurt goons.
And fwiw, I could have voted for him and still could, it was a drunken joke went bad, but the fact is that it simply looks terrible to outsiders. No trolling, whining or this internal shitstorm can change the amount of damage this caused to EVE's public image.
what did you not see the whole monocle thing? that was way worse. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
303
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:52:00 -
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Roime wrote:Xython, you are ******* moron.
This is by a massive margin the worst publicity blow for CCP in the history of EVE, and the only one to blame for it is The Mittani. You have to be really thick not to see that.
And you know what? CCP would lose nothing by booting him from the chair. No game company in the world wants this kind of publicity, and if it comes to the choice of replacing the chairman, it's a pretty easy decision between money and a few butthurt goons.
And fwiw, I could have voted for him and still could, it was a drunken joke went bad, but the fact is that it simply looks terrible to outsiders. No trolling, whining or this internal shitstorm can change the amount of damage this caused to EVE's public image.
You realize that when all this settle it could easily be remembered as the biggest meta-gaming battle of power in the history of EVE. Such stories tend to market EVE pretty well. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
917
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:54:00 -
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gfldex wrote:You fancy telling him about his options?
Sure, or you could have a chat with him: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7167/thewis2.png quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
99
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:54:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message?
Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
342
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:55:00 -
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70 USD monocles? Yes, people laughed about that. Was pretty funny.
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knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
95
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:55:00 -
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There is no gaming news in the MMO market right now so this is it. Honestly some of those publications will do anything to push up their page views they'll ignore the facts like many of the people on these forums; because that's how they make money, page views. Tomorrow, it will be forgotten about.
Ever asked yourself the question, was the guy mining botting? Was he himself trolling to get a reaction? He seemed to joke about it recently.
And please stop bad posting. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
343
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:00:00 -
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Lexmana wrote: You realize that when all this settle it could easily be remembered as the biggest meta-gaming battle of power in the history of EVE. Such stories tend to market EVE pretty well.
That would be better, yes.
It's sad if some people want him off the power so badly that they need to hurt the game by making this worse than it is... but those news stories seem present the events as they happened, and tbh it's very ******* bad enough as it is. |
Grumpy Owly
431
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:01:00 -
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Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids.
I guess the cruical word then is "concerned" and as such wether parents participate in scrutinising influences that might effect their children.
Edit: Moreso when they can be held legally accountable for actions associated with them owning the accounts? Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
140
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:03:00 -
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Bill Banner wrote:The die is cast.
This bonehead screwed up, apologized, and is now being dragged further underwater by his constituency.
I'm still waiting for step 2.
I'm beginning to think step 2 is unlikely unless it comes from CCP. Maybe he just likes chaos, he is a Goon after all, it's what they seem to like. |
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Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
246
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:04:00 -
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I wonder if this will hit the BBC news...
The big GHSC heist did as did the creation and election of the first CSM.
It's interesting that a video game player could be embroiled in a political scandal like RL, and face calls to resign.
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OfBalance
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:05:00 -
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Incursions. EVE is famous for incursions, right? |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:09:00 -
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Roime wrote: This is by a massive margin the worst publicity blow for CCP in the history of EVE, and the only one to blame for it is The Mittani. You have to be really thick not to see that.
One word: T20. CCP (and Eve Online) survived the devs themselves cheating at the game.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:09:00 -
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Roime wrote:Xython, you are ******* moron.
This is by a massive margin the worst publicity blow for CCP in the history of EVE, and the only one to blame for it is The Mittani. You have to be really thick not to see that.
And you know what? CCP would lose nothing by booting him from the chair. No game company in the world wants this kind of publicity, and if it comes to the choice of replacing the chairman, it's a pretty easy decision between money and a few butthurt goons.
And fwiw, I could have voted for him and still could, it was a drunken joke went bad, but the fact is that it simply looks terrible to outsiders. No trolling, whining or this internal shitstorm can change the amount of damage this caused to EVE's public image.
That's the sad part.
He just got the most votes in eve history, it seemed like he really wanted to improve the game and then he goes and **** everything up. A vote wasted for everyone who voted him.
And i'm not looking at the joke i'm talking about the: "deal with it". |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:16:00 -
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Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids. Bullsh1t. Most parents these days are savvy Internet users and / or have been educated that the online experience needs to be heavily moderated when their kids are involved.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
203
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:18:00 -
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im stunned hes stepping down.
Whats this feeling im getting inn my brain, is that, oh right thats faith in csm hello old freind :)
Muad 'dib for CSM! http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
4
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:20:00 -
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Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids. Bullsh1t. Most american parents these days are savvy Internet users and / or have been educated that the online experience needs to be heavily moderated when their kids are involved. Many american parents make the time to look at what video games (and gaming systems) they purchase for their kids to ensure that the material is age-appropriate and, more importantly, appropriate for that specific child.
You must live in the us.
Only americans do that sort of things (well germans also).
Just wanted to point it out.
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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
51
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:21:00 -
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Xython wrote:The hilarious thing? All these sites are citing each other, who are all citing a known anti-Goonswarm troll blog. This is quite literally a manufactured scandal by a bunch of crybabies who can't stand the idea that Mittani got THE BIGGEST MANDATE IN EVE HISTORY.
In short:
You mad, pubbie? It sounds like you're mad. Definitely could be mad.
Mad ... no, this pubbie is amused. Seems it's all really bad when you get out meta-gamed. HTFU or just ~deal with it ~
Nothing clever at this time. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3563
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:25:00 -
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If the entire story is put out The time from election to scandal to resignation and resolution
Then its good plubicilty
If only the scandal part was put out and they leave off the resolution Then bad plubicity.
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Kopfy
11
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:30:00 -
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Just Alter wrote:Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids. Bullsh1t. Most american parents these days are savvy Internet users and / or have been educated that the online experience needs to be heavily moderated when their kids are involved. Many american parents make the time to look at what video games (and gaming systems) they purchase for their kids to ensure that the material is age-appropriate and, more importantly, appropriate for that specific child. You must live in the us. Only americans do that sort of things (well germans also). Just wanted to point it out.
Very easily solved: cut out the middleman/parents. Dust is free. Yes, a parent could spy and search through the kids installed PS3 games but since it's free it's quite easy to re download. just saying... |
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Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
32
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:31:00 -
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Bill Banner wrote:The die is cast.
This bonehead screwed up, apologized, and is now being dragged further underwater by his constituency.
I'm still waiting for step 2.
Step two hopefully is an issued statement so people see his apology, and most likely him and ccp are talking about some damage control statement. Because of the publicity of the nature, and I am sure Mittani doesn't want harm to eve, We will probably see a statement of his actions, those of ccp, and possibly the attitude of the wis if he wants to.
An ideal damage control statement would just be:
1. stepping down from the CSM for this term. This would not remove him from notice. I am certain he would still be active in the process, as a consulary. Heck, he probably would be fine as a CSM still, just not as chair. I don't care one way or the other, but for public view.
2. voluntary ban? 30 day step down from the game, shows respect for the EULA and that rules to protect players from harassment are enforced. Shoot, set some cap lvl 5 skill, take a vacation to the tropics for a bit!
3. Statement about the line between eve and the rules violation. A statement about eve, how it is a harsh environment, no place is safe, but that it is a game and limits should be taken in that it doesn't give an excuse to deliberately target or ruin the game experience entirely (targeted and continual highsec griefing for sole purpose of tears a no go?)
The ramifications would be huge. Respect would be earned for CCP, reputation of eve and how it works would be gained, damage negated. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
140
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:32:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:If the entire story is put out The time from election to scandal to resignation and resolution
Then its good plubicilty
If only the scandal part was put out and they leave off the resolution Then bad plubicity.
If scandal is involved it will over shadow any good publicity. Nothing people like more than a good scandal, as long as it does not involve them. |
Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:33:00 -
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And? |
Grumpy Owly
433
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:35:00 -
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Kopfy wrote:Just Alter wrote:Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids. Bullsh1t. Most american parents these days are savvy Internet users and / or have been educated that the online experience needs to be heavily moderated when their kids are involved. Many american parents make the time to look at what video games (and gaming systems) they purchase for their kids to ensure that the material is age-appropriate and, more importantly, appropriate for that specific child. You must live in the us. Only americans do that sort of things (well germans also). Just wanted to point it out. Very easily solved: cut out the middleman/parents. Dust is free. Yes, a parent could spy and search through the kids installed PS3 games but since it's free it's quite easy to re download. just saying...
It isnt free to buy, you also need a Dust account to play as I understand, even if you don't make use of the in game transactions. Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
344
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:35:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:
One word: T20. CCP (and Eve Online) survived the devs themselves cheating at the game.
-Liang
What happened to that guy?
Also, cheating in EVE is ok. Cheating people out of their internet space credits is encouraged. Smack talk in local chat is part of the game. Winning by any means is the culture, it sells the game. That's what I love about EVE, I can expect clever, creative people to use any means possible to punch me down, steal my iskies, blow up my spaceships... in game.
But encouraging people to mass bully someone to commit suicide during a fan gathering is a bit harder to make look attractive. At this point it doesn't matter so much what it actually was (because most of us here know that it wasn't that bad), but how it looks.
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Sang-in Tiers
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:47:00 -
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I find it funny how people think the EVE community is going to look like a bunch of psychopaths but I don't see anyone thinking L2 players are murderers. I think EVE is quite safe guys, how about you just let CCP do its job now? |
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:53:00 -
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Sang-in Tiers wrote:I find it funny how people think the EVE community is going to look like a bunch of psychopaths but I don't see anyone thinking L2 players are murderers. I think EVE is quite safe guys, how about you just let CCP do its job now?
Except this person is a representative of the playerbase.
Who, luckily, agreed to step down so this is all moot. How CCP reacts to the Mittani comments at fanfest will show whether they condone this behavior or not. If they do nothing, then obviously pushing for real world violence and death is an acceptable gameplay tactic to them and will open a whole new venue of strategy for us, the gamers. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
33
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:55:00 -
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Sang-in Tiers wrote:I find it funny how people think the EVE community is going to look like a bunch of psychopaths but I don't see anyone thinking L2 players are murderers. I think EVE is quite safe guys, how about you just let CCP do its job now?
The difference is that eve is known for being a harsh, dark, griefer scammer universe and it's image is done so in promotion of this fact that it is part of the universe. For eve it is being protrayed as being alot more of that and not new player friendly now. Just a matter of extents. L2, at least for me doesn't have the same rep as eve. The incident is considered an exception more than the norm. For non eve players, this is being taken as a norm for the community more than an extreme that it is.
Really feel for Mittani, the work and effort that he has put in for eve, plus who knows how much to maintain goons must really be a beatdown to seeing the negative press. For me, the thought of causing negative growth to eve would affect me alot more than any ban would. Don't like goons playstyle, don't like Mittani for how he acted on stage there, but is a part of eve, did alot and in the end would be a loss if left the community, hope we hear from him and ccp soon. Make some good stuff come of it. |
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:30:00 -
[49] - Quote
This doesn't bode well for dust... How CCP reacts to the Mittani comments at fanfest will show whether they condone this behavior or not. If they do nothing, then obviously pushing for real world violence and death is an acceptable gameplay tactic to them and will open a whole new venue of strategy for us, the gamers. |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
397
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:40:00 -
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Xython wrote:The hilarious thing? All these sites are citing each other, who are all citing a known anti-Goonswarm troll blog. This is quite literally a manufactured scandal by a bunch of crybabies who can't stand the idea that Mittani got THE BIGGEST MANDATE IN EVE HISTORY.
In short:
You mad, pubbie? It sounds like you're mad. Definitely could be mad. Oh ye of little wisdom. It's not impropriety, it's the appearance of impropriety. Some of "you" don't care about things like that. Most of "us" do. You're very much outnumbered in this respect, both in the sandbox and in the world at large. Oh. You can scorn and ridicule all you like. We expect that. It's the only card you hold. So, play it. Then curse the casino.
What is truly FUNNY is, Mittani behaved exactly the way he was expected to. So...if he's his own man, the leader his buddies say he is...why is he so predictable...like you?
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
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Tagera
Unity Systems Engineering The Dog Pound
43
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
Just Alter wrote:Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids. Bullsh1t. Most american parents these days are savvy Internet users and / or have been educated that the online experience needs to be heavily moderated when their kids are involved. Many american parents make the time to look at what video games (and gaming systems) they purchase for their kids to ensure that the material is age-appropriate and, more importantly, appropriate for that specific child. You must live in the us. Only americans do that sort of things (well germans also). Just wanted to point it out.
Not really, the ESRB rating is on the box. Most parents in the US seem to ignore it and then ***** later. It's gotten to the point where the parenting portion is done by the government and laws. Apparently they feel that it's every bodies responsibility to watch children. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
Xython almost makes me wish for Lady Harlot. Almost... |
BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
127
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:48:00 -
[53] - Quote
Didn't we agree to stop making new posts about this and contain them to the two already open that are 100+ pages long? And by we I mean CCP and by agree I mean they're locking everything but those two? |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
149
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:59:00 -
[54] - Quote
I just ran a search in google trends, and the popularity in EVE online searches went up by about 1% during the controversies (however this is probably more likely related to the recent EVE Forever trailer) The game is not famous for what happened, most of the gaming community not only ignores EVE related events but most don't know about EVE whatsoever.
As long as an event like this doesn't happen again, it won't define who we are as a community. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
919
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:21:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote: As long as an event like this doesn't happen again, it won't define who we are as a community.
Most of the comments you can find seems like this community has been well defined and this has only reconfirmed every idea about it.
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
141
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:34:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ammzi wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote: As long as an event like this doesn't happen again, it won't define who we are as a community.
Most of the comments you can find seems like this community has been well defined and this has only reconfirmed every idea about it.
True, EVE's had a bad reputation amoung gamers for years. I thought things had been improving though, but looks like we're back in the crapper. |
Arakazzi
Epsilon Inc STORM.
28
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:39:00 -
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I think many here would be shocked to be told that most gamers and even mmo gamers wouldn't of heard of the Mittani or the goons. Hell even some eve players wouldn't know him from Adam. Your all over estimating EVE and the swarm. Outside of EVE they are not as infamous as you seem to believe and it will take a lot more than a few articles tucked away in crappy gamming websites to make a real impact
If you stand back and look at it, it all seems a bit silly. A player elected representative gets drunk, stupidly stands up and jokingly tells a player to go kill himself. Everyone goes up in arms and he appologises but for some it's not enough so they get on their high horse and demand his accounts be shut and some even want him thrown in jail (I think they were joking). Personally I don't know whats the worse part of all this is. The false sense of moral outrage, people trying to make political capital out of it all, the CSM chairman telling someone to kill himself or the fact that someone who has recently been divorced can still afford 27 accounts. TBH I'm rather bewildered by the amount of fuss this has made, but then again I live in the real world.
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
141
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:46:00 -
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Arakazzi wrote:I think many here would be shocked to be told that most gamers and even mmo gamers wouldn't of heard of the Mittani or the goons. Hell even some eve players wouldn't know him from Adam. Your all over estimating EVE and the swarm. Outside of EVE they are not as infamous as you seem to believe and it will take a lot more than a few articles tucked away in crappy gamming websites to make a real impact
If you stand back and look at it, it all seems a bit silly. A player elected representative gets drunk, stupidly stands up and jokingly tells a player to go kill himself. Everyone goes up in arms and he appologises but for some it's not enough so they get on their high horse and demand his accounts be shut and some even want him thrown in jail (I think they were joking). Personally I don't know whats the worse part of all this is. The false sense of moral outrage, people trying to make political capital out of it all, the CSM chairman telling someone to kill himself or the fact that someone who has recently been divorced can still afford 27 accounts. TBH I'm rather bewildered by the amount of fuss this has made, but then again I live in the real world.
EVE is fairly well known, the Goons no idea how well they're known. I'd never heard of the Goons until I started playing EVE. |
Ender Karazaki
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:57:00 -
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I haven't heard of the goons till today.... can't see what the fuss is about, I've seen a lot worse on local, some of it directed at my mother. |
Severian Carnifex
115
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:24:00 -
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This is some "nice" **** all around the web... |
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:38:00 -
[61] - Quote
Ender Karazaki wrote:I haven't heard of the goons till today.... can't see what the fuss is about, I've seen a lot worse on local, some of it directed at my mother.
Your mother plays Eve?
Good for her I say |
Mana Potion
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
pathetic.... while you were spending time looking at Eve Online's Reputation... I was having fun in game... You should check on your obsessive compulsive tendencies to make sure you can participate in the human race with the rest of us normal people...
let CCP worry about the rep of Eve... you should just go play and stop making stupid posts like this... look through your list... its just a bunch of 2 bit hack sites that have very little Journalistic Integrity. hell half of them are only reposting content from another site.
Seriously. seek help. |
Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:59:00 -
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At the moment, all hell is breaking loose because the situation is being used as a political instrument. If this wouldn't involve Mittens, we wouldn't even talk about it. People have been thrashed far worse in EVE's history.
Give it a few weeks and this whole mediafest is another one of those stories that only EVE provides.
There's no such thing as bad publicity in the long run. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:04:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:At the moment, all hell is breaking loose because the situation is being used as a political instrument. If this wouldn't involve Mittens, we wouldn't even talk about it. People have been thrashed far worse in EVE's history.
Give it a few weeks and this whole mediafest is another one of those stories that only EVE provides.
There's no such thing as bad publicity in the long run.
You might want to tell that to Gary Glitter |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:15:00 -
[65] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Beckie DeLey wrote:At the moment, all hell is breaking loose because the situation is being used as a political instrument. If this wouldn't involve Mittens, we wouldn't even talk about it. People have been thrashed far worse in EVE's history.
Give it a few weeks and this whole mediafest is another one of those stories that only EVE provides.
There's no such thing as bad publicity in the long run. You might want to tell that to Gary Glitter
Do you posses the intelligence to distinguish between bad publicity and conviction? |
The F Word
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:45:00 -
[66] - Quote
Good bit more articles floating around now - Kotaku's a biggy, buddy saw it via link from Gizmodo and asked me about it.
This thing has too much momentum at this point, logical conclusion is a bad one for The Mittani. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
35
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:48:00 -
[67] - Quote
Bad publicity can be good publicity, but I don't think in this case, you need some kind of sex to change bad publicity to good.
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Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
129
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:48:00 -
[68] - Quote
Eve is known for being a hardcore sandbox pvp game populated by griefers, bastards, megolomaniacs, thieves, con-artists, and any other brand of ******* I may have missed.
Furthermore, anyone who bothers to look into this in even the most cursory manner knows the controversy is largely manufactured by a few groups with a vested interest in seeing Mittani get kicked off the CSM. And thus we come full circle. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
420
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:01:00 -
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Marduk Nibiru wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Let me see now, as a concerned parent researching the news to see if Dust is a game I would like to use my credit card for to pay for my son's or daughters gameplay would I be encouraged by this message? Come now. No parent does this. Most are just glad to have the little bastard out of their ass. I don't blame them...it's the first reason I don't have kids.
Don't ever speak for me again. I might be a lot of things in game and on forums but a bad parent is not one of them.
And the reason you don't have kids is glaringly obvious. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |
seany1212
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
113
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
Get over it.
The terrible WoW playerbase that exists in eve nowadays blew this up more than it needed to be and every 'writer' and their dog has jumped on the bandwagon. Offensive **** always happens in eve, both on CSM and out of it |
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Muestereate
Two Geezers in Space
32
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:07:00 -
[71] - Quote
tens of thousands of deranged sociopaths will beat their way to EVES doorstep looking for peers. CCP will go public at facebook prices. Mittani will take the bow and Iceland will grant him the key to some volcano |
Krutoj
xSPECNAZx
145
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:23:00 -
[72] - Quote
Was good publicity for me, apparently I am at the end of the Alliance panel video. Those links helped some people IRL find it :) |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1116
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:45:00 -
[73] - Quote
Moved from EVE General Discussion. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
928
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:46:00 -
[74] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Moved from EVE General Discussion.
But this is a discussion about EVE and its publicity. :( quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:46:00 -
[75] - Quote
The most threads locked in a 10minute period. |
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