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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
307
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:16:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Wow, this is really cool. I've been trying to find more info about Live Events by just lurking the various channels, but this is a much easier jumping off point.
By the way, that public channel you linked does not exist anymore? Is there a different one for the A'J narrative?
Thanks, this is really cool.. I need to spend more time getting into this. Live Events were a huge reason why I loved UO so much :)
Glad to know that it peaked your interest! As for the channel, it should work.: Arek'Jaalan
If it still does not work, please let us know or contact Morwen Lagann. She is the Chief Archivist of the Arek'Jaalan Project. |
Azriel Geist
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:19:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:Wow, this is really cool. I've been trying to find more info about Live Events by just lurking the various channels, but this is a much easier jumping off point.
By the way, that public channel you linked does not exist anymore? Is there a different one for the A'J narrative?
Thanks, this is really cool.. I need to spend more time getting into this. Live Events were a huge reason why I loved UO so much :) Glad to know that it peaked your interest! As for the channel, it should work.: Arek'Jaalan If it still does not work, please let us know or contact Morwen Lagann. She is the Chief Archivist of the Arek'Jaalan Project.
That worked, I must've had an errant space in there somewhere.
Thanks, can't wait to dive into all the stuff on the wiki as well. =) |
Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
7
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:22:00 -
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check out the complex, looks nice, are there anything to do there beyond grabbing the research notes? |
Voull
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:51:00 -
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This is awesome! CCP I think this event was really cool but I had never heard of it until now. Can you promote events like this a little more in the future? Maybe a login splash image? |
Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:56:00 -
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It is a banging experience, not for the "hardcore wizard hat" but just to take the time to catch up on the things ingame that were designed to peak interest years ago.
For example Sanctum Psychosis in Lanngisi, dates back to Jovian Times.
The Deltole Skeleton Comet (home to Serpentis Pirates and Drones) is crammed full of hacking and archaeology containers to grind about in, and can test most hulls in dps dished out.
Its all worthwhile in the long run if you are grinding L4's in Empire, take a break to scan and wonder about the ghost ships and ripped superstructures in the RADAR and Magnetometric sites. the Technology used in ships such as the Machariel, Vigilant, Vindicator all rely on technology found / developed by Pirates that relied on the RADAR and Magnetometric sites to learn a new scientific direction.
Even if you are the most Devout Sani Sabik / Blood Raider admirer you can still find nuance in the Takmahl Race.
Just incase you missed the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDrXxSnddNA
Arek'Jaalan covers most topics that the Sleeper headline may have left you thinking it was strictly Sleeper, when its the majority of New Eden's History in one place.
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
60
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Posted - 2012.03.28 16:17:00 -
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I'd just like to re-iterate my support for Arek'Jaalan (and assure people that the Compass report IS COMING, I promise!). Welcome to Goliath and I'm delighted to see that CCP is not just leaving us out to wither away! I'm playing EVE and I'm Still Alive
Author, EVE Travel Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
97
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Posted - 2012.03.28 16:18:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Azriel Geist wrote:Wow, this is really cool. I've been trying to find more info about Live Events by just lurking the various channels, but this is a much easier jumping off point.
By the way, that public channel you linked does not exist anymore? Is there a different one for the A'J narrative?
Thanks, this is really cool.. I need to spend more time getting into this. Live Events were a huge reason why I loved UO so much :) Glad to know that it peaked your interest! As for the channel, it should work.: Arek'Jaalan If it still does not work, please let us know or contact Morwen Lagann. She is the Chief Archivist of the Arek'Jaalan Project.
I'm not always at my computer even if I'm logged in, so if you need to reach me, evemail and/or twitter are your best bets - I'm not ignoring convo requests, honest! |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
191
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Posted - 2012.03.28 16:59:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:You have to understand, this particular project has a lot of history and high expectation attached to it. I don't want to say "yeah I'm doing it and I'm going to be the next Hilen and it's going to be awesome" because I can't promise that at this stage. Let me get caught up on the materials, sync up with the team, and then I will actually be in a place to talk specifics. I'm sure everyone in this thread would rather I made an informed decision and kept true to the initial spirit and quality of the project than jumped in with half-baked ideas and soured the memory of it. If you need to poke any of the players involved with A'J with questions, I know many of us (Mark, Rhavas, Antiquarian, Grideris, myself, and a number of others) watch twitter and/or evemail, so feel free to chase us down. We'd love to be involved if possible, and we don't bite. (At least, not hard, anyway...)
Yay, someone mentioned me!
Though as a reminder, I was the Australian with red hair at the Live Events round table. And if you need a hand, just ask. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
14
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:27:00 -
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Grideris wrote:
Yay, someone mentioned me!
Though as a reminder, I was the Australian with red hair at the Live Events round table. And if you need a hand, just ask.
Oh Dude your back how was your trip? and are you going to sum it up in a new cast514?
just to keep this relevent to the topic how does one get to WH and join this event? Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
10
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:37:00 -
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I glad to see some movement here, but sad to see Dropbear gone. He put quite some effort into AJ.
Im also glad I held on to my W-Space samples. I was thinking of pushing Huntress I and Huntress II into the sun. |
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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
371
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:31:00 -
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The effort thing... sort of a core issue. The number of potential willing participants to a live event is always great, except when effort from their behalf enters the picture. Most have, after all, enough work to be done in real life already
Headfirst's Sansha events before Incursion were brilliant as they easily included people due to, frankly said, the simple minded goal they laid out; here are the Sansha, destroy them. Some people added spice to the mix by trying to side with the Sansha and the event(s) went pretty well
Arek'Jaalan on the other hand has difficulties explaining the people that want to participate what they should really do. There is nothing to shoot and no immediate rewards to be had. As one who has left real life academia behind I found it as a great opportunity to practice "fictional science", but for somebody with no such experience it seems getting into the topic is hard
Site One was a great event though, again because of the simple and straight forward goal and accessibility. The two w-space incidents were pretty bad as they ended up being effort made for a single person/group only and highly exclusive. To make matters worse, not much was really gained from the project point of view, as in the first instance the involved player was more concerned about killboard whoring and did not find it weird at all to find multiple completely stationary cov-ops frigates. In the second case the player was a w-space alt intended to scan out wormholes in case of access being lost and therefore incapable of engaging a single Sleeper drone and explore a rather tempting spatial rift
The danger CCP Goliath is taking on here, is that of effort; if not careful he might end up having to do a lot of effort to make events with simple goals to draw in a big crowd or he can continue to keep the project more mental demanding with less effort on his behalf, which on one hand encourages a few players to be very productive but has difficulties appealing to the masses
I wonder if doing Live Events count as company work. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
371
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:18:00 -
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The big question is:
Will you ever finish "The Forlorn Hope" site? Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Alain Kinsella
97
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:32:00 -
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Jowen Datloran wrote:The danger CCP Goliath is taking on here, is that of effort; if not careful he might end up having to do a lot of effort to make events with simple goals to draw in a big crowd or he can continue to keep the project more mental demanding with less effort on his behalf, which on one hand encourages a few players to be very productive but has difficulties appealing to the masses I wonder if doing Live Events count as company work.
There's nothing stopping CCP from doing both - Some initial setup will allow them to both manage longer-term, short-time stuff, and still give them the opportunity to 'relax' by staging a real Live Event from time to time.
From a time perspective, I'd suggest that CCP give Mercury a little leeway to help with the general clarifications etc, that could help bring a better foundation to the whole thing.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
198
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:57:00 -
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As a dude who doesn't generally engage in roleplay, and finds missions and whatnot boring: This is cool. It has piqued my interest. |
Ryan Startalker Zhang
Zervas Aeronautics Otas Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 21:44:00 -
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I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?
P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
479
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:03:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hi, firstly I would like to confirm that CCP Dropbear is no longer with the company. It is not my place to explain the circumstances surrounding this, but I will say that the thread linked above is incorrect.
Some of you may have met me during the Live Events roundtable at Fanfest. I along with other devs (Abraxas, Affinity, Gnauton, Navigator to name a few) have taken up the mantle of live events. We were reponsible for the Dev Caravans that occurred over Christmas as well as the Scavenger Hunt player event at Fanfest. During the roundtable the Arek'Jaalan Project was mentioned by a few players. It is on our list of "cool things we want to get involved in" which is rather extensive following said roundtable. We are currently working on our Next Big Thing and so I will not give specific dates, times or topics at the moment, but rest assured that Live Events are going nowhere and we are committed to making some awesome memories for you all.
Best of luck to you and the rest of the team.
Please stop spawning battleship fleets at optimal range of my ship and then mass primary targeting me at live Sansha events though D:
Seriously, good luck. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Gouzu Kho
Kho Incorporated
2
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:45:00 -
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Hope to see more live events soon. Always have a lot of fun with those. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
319
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:28:00 -
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Ryan Startalker Zhang wrote:I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?
P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen.
Of course not. The know-hows and the system/method of getting to conclusion still resides with the leads, which could be leveraged for the future project. There are at least a dozen of project going under way so the know-hows and the findings from other projects are leverageable for each other. |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:03:00 -
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I'm interested on helping, but knowing how is proving harder than expected... I think I'll just go with the evemail option. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
503
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:41:00 -
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Could you just.... give us , the players, the tools to make our own deadspace sites?
And then the tools to roleplay our own live events? Like within the deadspace site, and other approved areas, you have players sign up, like ISD, and they run the live events for you
Why not give ver the majority of live events to the players
Give us tools too....
Change color of text in cha
Fly any ship we deem we want for the live event we are running.
Let us spawn ships at the sites.
Basically let players hired as volunteers, the power to be like a DM in a D&D game.
Heck you want to make it even more hands off? Let the people with the power to play story teller in eve, be elected via, in game voting system. Easier to watch over one player making events then 1000s right
Anyways, you should let us run our own events, and drop our own money into rewards for these sites. You don't need to pump in free ships that we can spawn for free. Like the eve market do it's thing. Let the STs buy buys, set AI for them, and send team off versus a group of players. So it would boost sales of ships no one uses!
anyways, just a thought, curious if it's even going to ever be a possibility. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
146
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:39:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Could you just.... give us , the players, the tools to make our own deadspace sites?
And then the tools to roleplay our own live events? Like within the deadspace site, and other approved areas, you have players sign up, like ISD, and they run the live events for you
Why not give ver the majority of live events to the players
Give us tools too....
Change color of text in cha
Fly any ship we deem we want for the live event we are running.
Let us spawn ships at the sites.
Basically let players hired as volunteers, the power to be like a DM in a D&D game.
Heck you want to make it even more hands off? Let the people with the power to play story teller in eve, be elected via, in game voting system. Easier to watch over one player making events then 1000s right
Anyways, you should let us run our own events, and drop our own money into rewards for these sites. You don't need to pump in free ships that we can spawn for free. Like the eve market do it's thing. Let the STs buy buys, set AI for them, and send team off versus a group of players. So it would boost sales of ships no one uses!
anyways, just a thought, curious if it's even going to ever be a possibility.
It's not going to be a possibility. Pretty sure I don't need to explain why giving people the tools to create deadspace sites, associate AI with ships, change the colour of their text or remove skills from the ship-flying equation isn't particularly safe
Are you familiar with AURORA? They used to run live events and were volunteer-based. Unfortunately the player base grew too large to leave this duty in the hands of volunteers, and ultimately we are better placed to run events that give a consistent experience to a wider audience.
That all being said, there is nothing that is stopping players from running interesting, engaging events in-game. Marlona Sky for instance has run 2 "Flight of a Thousand Rifters" events now and I believe they were very popular. There are many other examples of this occurring in game and it's amazing to see how creative people can be within the boundaries of the game. CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:53:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:
Change color of text in cha
Sorry but this is a terrible idea. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
374
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:58:00 -
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I remember AURORA and to my knowledge there were some other serious issues (misuse of power) that were the main reason for its closure and not that the player base grew too big. Also explains why we should not have it back. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
61
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:49:00 -
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Ryan Startalker Zhang wrote:I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?
P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen.
I THINK you're actually referring to the original Project Compass, which is a project I originally ran. The celestial sphere HAS changed, but I think the original analysis could probably still be done. The star pattern I was relying on in that project, Orion, is still present in k-space (and pops up just about everywhere once you know what to look for) as well as in w-space, there's just a bunch of OTHER stars now visible in k-space that makes it slightly less obvious.
Rather than considering the effort truly wasted, however, I believe the original Compass acts as an interesting baseline to the revised Project Compass (which I'm currently in the process of wrapping up, along with my co-lead Faulx). The report (which hopefully will be out soon) actually directly compares the original results to the new results. The only part that is EXPLICITLY disproven by the new Compass project is the conclusions I made regarding the kind of galaxy New Eden is in. We now have distinct galactic banding, which suggests a spiral galaxy, which is something I originally discounted in the first go-around. Still, I can use the bulk of the original research as some tepid support for my findings in the new Project Compass.
Which is a little weird, because that's how science works in the real world as well: building off of previous research. I'm playing EVE and I'm Still Alive
Author, EVE Travel Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
320
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:33:00 -
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Mark726 wrote:Ryan Startalker Zhang wrote:I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?
P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen. I THINK you're actually referring to the original Project Compass, which is a project I originally ran. The celestial sphere HAS changed, but I think the original analysis could probably still be done. The star pattern I was relying on in that project, Orion, is still present in k-space (and pops up just about everywhere once you know what to look for) as well as in w-space, there's just a bunch of OTHER stars now visible in k-space that makes it slightly less obvious. Rather than considering the effort truly wasted, however, I believe the original Compass acts as an interesting baseline to the revised Project Compass (which I'm currently in the process of wrapping up, along with my co-lead Faulx). The report (which hopefully will be out soon) actually directly compares the original results to the new results. The only part that is EXPLICITLY disproven by the new Compass project is the conclusions I made regarding the kind of galaxy New Eden is in. We now have distinct galactic banding, which suggests a spiral galaxy, which is something I originally discounted in the first go-around. Still, I can use the bulk of the original research as some tepid support for my findings in the new Project Compass. Which is a little weird, because that's how science works in the real world as well: building off of previous research.
And all our hard work are compiled in EVELOPEDIA. The new EVELOPEDIA is streamlined and easy to navigate. Please type in "Arek'Jaalan" to get caught up on all the work! |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
100
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:24:00 -
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Dropbear just poked his head in on Backstage (one of the forums hosted by the RP community) to say hello.
You can read his post here. |
Saul Caris
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Posted - 2012.03.30 19:20:00 -
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Just adding a supportive +1 to more on this project & the WH story in general, some good ideas in this thread. Please don't let this die off CCP, its the most interesting bit of the lore! |
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
175
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:28:00 -
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The depth of the back story of Eve is very deep, the latest revelations in Templar One for example only just scratch it's surface.
If you are interested, this thread indexes some of the detailed and deep exploration of the Mystery of New Eden.
I think it might surprise you. |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
111
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Posted - 2012.03.30 21:17:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote: (snip)... We are currently working on our Next Big Thing and so I will not give specific dates, times or topics at the moment, but rest assured that Live Events are going nowhere... ( snip)
That the problem they are going NOWHERE!!! WHERE IS THIS BLACK HOLE THAT SWALLOWS PAST IDEAS AND LEADS THEM TO NOWHERE? Kill the BH with fire!!! And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell, Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,That this foul deed... -á |
Ryan Startalker Zhang
Zervas Aeronautics Otas Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.04.01 15:37:00 -
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Mark726 wrote:Ryan Startalker Zhang wrote:I know it's a while ago [pre-crucible], but I think I ran into some pdf file report written by the A'J Project members specifically studying the celestial sphere of New Eden and try to determine the span of the current universe, or something like that. And then the nebula are redone in the crucible expansion, and I suppose the celestial sphere has changed a lot in the process. Does that mean A'J Project's effort wasted?
P.S. I'm heading to the live event site right now. Hopefully it's still there to be seen. I THINK you're actually referring to the original Project Compass, which is a project I originally ran. The celestial sphere HAS changed, but I think the original analysis could probably still be done. The star pattern I was relying on in that project, Orion, is still present in k-space (and pops up just about everywhere once you know what to look for) as well as in w-space, there's just a bunch of OTHER stars now visible in k-space that makes it slightly less obvious. Rather than considering the effort truly wasted, however, I believe the original Compass acts as an interesting baseline to the revised Project Compass (which I'm currently in the process of wrapping up, along with my co-lead Faulx). The report (which hopefully will be out soon) actually directly compares the original results to the new results. The only part that is EXPLICITLY disproven by the new Compass project is the conclusions I made regarding the kind of galaxy New Eden is in. We now have distinct galactic banding, which suggests a spiral galaxy, which is something I originally discounted in the first go-around. Still, I can use the bulk of the original research as some tepid support for my findings in the new Project Compass. Which is a little weird, because that's how science works in the real world as well: building off of previous research.
Thank you very much for taking the time to explain the changes to me; it is indeed the report I came across before, the Original Project Compass. I'll keep track of progress on the new link of course. Thank you again for your efforts in the project. |
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