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Sobach
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.03.28 13:08:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Just another random noob talking about stuff they know nothing about.
In fact, there are many areas of space that have what are called "nebulae clusters". These clusters not only vary in size and density but color as well. There are nebulae that have several solar systems within them and are surrounded by hundreds more with nebulae nearby that have other solar systems within them. So yeah...
Science, Discovery and History channels for the win!
no doubt, and personally I wouldn't mind if there are some systems that are located within nebulae clusters.
but when every single damn system in eve is trying to burn your retinas out, it gets annoying quick. |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:16:00 -
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If you make DX11 the last thing we need, then it will be 20 years before we get to it and by then every other mmo would be on dx 15
-Vix |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:23:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:I remember how things were before Direct X came out. Voodoo 2 specific games, anyone? Or the good old days of options for Software, OpenGL, Direct3D, MiniGL and Glide renderers? GG*and S3. Don't forget about S3, and their magical compressed textures!
UnrealEngine 1 > all (especially for software rendering, once you cranked all the effects up).
GG#If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GkmvGkm you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GG%
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Domeleon
No Bullshit
Jokers Wild.
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:25:00 -
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What is up with the raging? I just do not understand it. If EVE looks like such ****, find another MMO that looks as good. Sure, the ship textures aren't perfect, but the lighting effects are pretty ****ing awesome, and all the celestial bodies (stars, planets, etc) look about as spotless as I could ask for. Where's the love? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:45:00 -
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Sobach wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Just another random noob talking about stuff they know nothing about.
In fact, there are many areas of space that have what are called "nebulae clusters". These clusters not only vary in size and density but color as well. There are nebulae that have several solar systems within them and are surrounded by hundreds more with nebulae nearby that have other solar systems within them. So yeah...
Science, Discovery and History channels for the win! no doubt, and personally I wouldn't mind if there are some systems that are located within nebulae clusters. but when every single damn system in eve is trying to burn your retinas out, it gets annoying quick.
If I understand your post correctly, you need to get out of empire more often. 
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:51:00 -
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omg why can't you kids just shut up and learn to behave,
instead of opening threads about your opinions, which nobody cares about ...
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
1997
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:54:00 -
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So there are definitely good reasons to consider moving to DX-11. Of all of them tessellation is lower on the list for me in terms of bang for buck. It makes for awesome demos but can be an artwork nightmare. So it could be a lot of churn for a relatively small improvement in appearance.
I'd be a lot more interested in down level hardware support, improvements in GPU management, compute shaders and better texture compression.
So I think DX-11 is a great goal, but I agree I'd make it lower priority over other game improvements.
Note, this is my thoughts and in no way represent the CSM 7.
Issler |
TWHC Assistant
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:57:00 -
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The reason why EVE could see DirectX11 in the near future is possibly because the hardware makers are constantly looking for partners who are able adopt this technology early. Many games still use low-res bounding boxes for collision detection while the graphics technology is advancing faster than it is good for these game engines. If you ever wondered why you cannot shoot through a transparent surface or why you get stuck at invisible corners, then it is because of exactly this difference and the resolution of bounding boxes and environment meshes being lower than the graphical resolution. DirectX11 pushes the difference further. Or imagine standing on a DX11 tessellation landscape and wanting to walk around on it. You do not only want to see every bump, but you would want to interact with it (stand on it and not hover above it or being stuck in the ground). Games where a collision detection is rarely needed will be able to utilise DirectX11 early. Makers of FPSs and RPGs, where every inch and millimetre counts in creating more realism and immersion might hesitate. However EVE Online does not care about precise bounding boxes and CCP could use DirectX11 to render every spaceship and station with the highest resolution possible. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:58:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Raven Ether wrote:How about things get fixed first like the subpar anti aliasing, the CRAP textures, the **** models (e.g blackbird), the ****** hardener/module effects, the lame stars, the volleyball gas planets/moons, the heinous POS modules, the deadspace fpskillerclouds and all that graphical crap that riddle the game. Not even the constantly featured nebulae are that good. 70% of space is a black void while only a smaller percentage actually has 'some' nebula in it.
Who gives a **** about tesselation and directX when basic art areas of the game look like utter fuckshit. No, the last thing we need is a drunken elephant dancing a jig in a fountain in the middle of a street in Peru, trumpeting out "Back in Black" by AC/DC.
No that's the first thing I would want to see 
Tal |
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:07:00 -
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Raven Ether wrote:How about things get fixed first like the subpar anti aliasing, the CRAP textures, the **** models (e.g blackbird), the ****** hardener/module effects, the lame stars, the volleyball gas planets/moons, the heinous POS modules, the deadspace fpskillerclouds and all that graphical crap that riddle the game. Not even the constantly featured nebulae are that good. 70% of space is a black void while only a smaller percentage actually has 'some' nebula in it.
Who gives a **** about tesselation and directX when basic art areas of the game look like utter fuckshit.
Inferno patch gave me a ninja look.. how cool is that ?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1186192#post1186192
TWHC Assistant wrote:. Or imagine standing on a DX11 tessellation landscape and wanting to walk around on it.
Will I be tessellated ninja in DX 11 ?
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:07:00 -
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I see someone is sad that their computer can't run it. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:10:00 -
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Raven Ether wrote:How about things get fixed first like the subpar anti aliasing, the CRAP textures, the **** models (e.g blackbird), the ****** hardener/module effects, the lame stars, the volleyball gas planets/moons, the heinous POS modules, the deadspace fpskillerclouds and all that graphical crap that riddle the game. Not even the constantly featured nebulae are that good. 70% of space is a black void while only a smaller percentage actually has 'some' nebula in it.
Who gives a **** about tesselation and directX when basic art areas of the game look like utter fuckshit.
Because updating the engine to DX11 would fix several of these things? And would also make fixing the other things a whole lot easier?
Don't worry about posting with your main! -aPost with your brain!
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:20:00 -
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Being able to run on old hardware ( backwards compatibility ) is what almost killed Apple before Steve came back.
Backwards compatibility is also the very thing that makes Windows such a giant lump, which is something that will be corrected in Windows 8 ( shame about the TOTALLY RIDICULOUS design though ).
EVE has been able to run on quite low end machines ( even an old Pentium 4 with 1.5 GHZ could run it ) for far to long, it's time CCP started benefiting from the excellent hardware available today, rather then yesteryear.
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:31:00 -
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Headerman wrote:
No, the last thing we need is a drunken elephant dancing a jig in a fountain in the middle of a street in Peru, trumpeting out "Back in Black" by AC/DC.
Shut up and take my money
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Barakkus
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:32:00 -
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If you had watched the fanfest video on the DX11 effects, you would understand a few things as to why things look the way they do.
http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:52:00 -
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I think they should make DX11 and Windows 8 minimum for this game. We don't need DX9 and Windows XP anymore. 
Seriously though, I think they should fix flashing station textures before adding new effects. |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
96
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:10:00 -
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Fuckwit
But yeh EVE AA does really suck the big one :/
esp when seeing laser/railgun effects
There should be a rather awesome pic here |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
572
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:22:00 -
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Jessy Berbers wrote:It seems you have no idea what a DX11 client would ACTUALLY do, do you?
Clearly not a semblance of an idea, a DX11 client would give CCP actually a chance to build a whole new client from scratch, and thus able to tackle every little single thing you describe just there, as the DX11 client requires pretty much remodeling EVERYTHING..
Greets
Jessy.
it doesn't require any remodeling. Eve online ships already each have a highpoly 3-4 million poly model they use the bake the normal map. This same map can be used to create a displacement map. A main feature of DX11. |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
572
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:25:00 -
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Domeleon wrote:What is up with the raging? I just do not understand it. If EVE looks like such ****, find another MMO that looks as good. Sure, the ship textures aren't perfect, but the lighting effects are pretty ****ing awesome, and all the celestial bodies (stars, planets, etc) look about as spotless as I could ask for. Where's the love?
well, the new caldari and gallentne V3 ships have sick textures. I hope they finish the rest of the ships soon! |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
721
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:41:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Raven Ether wrote:How about things get fixed first like the subpar anti aliasing, the CRAP textures, the **** models (e.g blackbird), the ****** hardener/module effects, the lame stars, the volleyball gas planets/moons, the heinous POS modules, the deadspace fpskillerclouds and all that graphical crap that riddle the game. Not even the constantly featured nebulae are that good. 70% of space is a black void while only a smaller percentage actually has 'some' nebula in it.
Who gives a **** about tesselation and directX when basic art areas of the game look like utter fuckshit. No, the last thing we need is a drunken elephant dancing a jig in a fountain in the middle of a street in Peru, trumpeting out "Back in Black" by AC/DC.
Is the drunken elephant still an option? When are they planning on releasing it? And which street in Peru, I need to buy a house there.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-a-a-MXZF |
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