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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:49:00 -
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[Clap][Clap][Clap] Congratulations goon haters. In your politically motivated hissy fit you managed to get rid of one of the most successful CSM chairs (regardless of what you think of him) damage the reputation of EVE, and brought even more attention to a man who never wanted any in the first place. Nothing like victimizing a victim to call attention to the initial crime huh?
As an independent guy in game, the one thing I learned from all this was that the goon hatters are just like... no worst than the goons themselves.
Although I got a funny kinda happy feeling y'all just unleashed a monster on yourselves... and you deserve it. |
Skilfer Azizora
Nova Corps Marines Group
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:53:00 -
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Time Funnel wrote:Darius III wrote: PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
You being on the CSM would be the maximum amount of pain I could inflict on CCP and the player base that is why I will be pushing hard in the CFC to get you, PsychoBitch (I didn't make that up), Xenuria and a few other comedy candidates elected to the CSM8. So please run again so that we can ruin people's game by putting you in a position of power.
*CSM7 ;) |
FaeVerite
Serenity Rising LLC Vanguard.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:54:00 -
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Taihbea wrote: As a CSM you look for community not your buddies. Fact. .
Thank you Taihbea. Simple and elegantly said. A CSM should put the community and game ahead of their buddies, corporation, alliance of coalition. This is why Politicians in come countries are expected to resign leadership positions that are in conflict with their duties as an elected representative of the people. This is a Democratic ideal but a good one that prevents corruption. |
Ceptia Cyna
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:57:00 -
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Manssell wrote:[Clap][Clap][Clap] Congratulations goon haters. In your politically motivated hissy fit you managed to get rid of one of the most successful CSM chairs (regardless of what you think of him) damage the reputation of EVE, and brought even more attention to a man who never wanted any in the first place. Nothing like victimizing a victim to call attention to the initial crime huh?
As an independent guy in game, the one thing I learned from all this was that the goon hatters are just like... no worst than the goons themselves.
Although I got a funny kinda happy feeling y'all just unleashed a monster on yourselves... and you deserve it.
Nope. Some Spacekiddy went into Real Life and got hurt in the process.
This has nothing to do with hating the goons but with Real Life decsision made by real persons and consequences that companies decided to take as reaction to prevent damage from their assets. Grow Up! |
Skilfer Azizora
Nova Corps Marines Group
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:57:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Svennig wrote:recreational outrage and feigned moral panic recreational outrage? They rage for fun?
It's good for the soul ;D |
Xenoglossicist
Reaver Technologies
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:02:00 -
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As a random, awful pubbie who just happened to watch FanFest and follow this whole thing?
I wasn't particularly impressed by The Mittani's presentation. I was somewhat irked by his original statement in the Q&A session. I was satisfied with his apology of both words and actions. I was surprised but understood him choosing to decline the Chair - I didn't vote for him, but I know he did a damn good job with the CSM6. I'd like to see him continue to work with the CSM7 on improving EVE. I'm impressed that The Mittani, in linking it, agreed with what amounted to a very cutting biography of him as a public figure. I greatly disrespect everything Darius III brought to this conversation.
Have fun burning Jita, CFC; I'll keep lowseccing my way through EVE life elsewhere. |
FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc.
124
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:03:00 -
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This all seems to have gone ridiculously far. Hearing about what was said early on I thought Mittens had gone too far. Watching the video of it I really didn't have a problem with it.
If he had said it about another csm member or an alliance leader would everyone have made such a big deal? It only seems to be a big deal because a pubbie said he was suicidal on the internet. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
330
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:09:00 -
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Xenoglossicist wrote:Have fun burning Jita, CFC; I'll keep lowseccing my way through EVE life elsewhere. *shrug* Oh well, you'll find out what orders came from the top soon enough when it gets leaked to kugu.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
206
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:10:00 -
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You guys cry more than a ganked Mackinaw pilot...
My EVE YouTube Channel |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
500
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:13:00 -
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Mittens, you are a tool. ...but that's OK.
I don't think any "crime" was committed. You should be banned for saying you are going to kill yourself until you bring a doctors note back to the devs saying you are fit for podding and not psychotic. You morons are blaming the wrong guy. There's plenty to be pi55ed at the goons about. I don't think this is one of them.
Anybody with the audacity to think they can do anything significant to Jita at all earns a tip of my hat.
Only the Privateers have ever been able to do it... and those days and that mechanic are gone.
Looking forward to more ships blowing up.
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StevieTopSiders
Evolution
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:16:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears. Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does? |
Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
210
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:17:00 -
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StevieTopSiders wrote:Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does?
I think the major issue here is he didn't act like a grown man AT ALL.
Let alone a "great man".
Please... keep your pants on ok ?
Apparently, he's married *shudder* My EVE YouTube Channel |
Skilfer Azizora
Nova Corps Marines Group
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:28:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:StevieTopSiders wrote:Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does? I think the major issue here is he didn't act like a grown man AT ALL. Let alone a "great man". Please... keep your pants on ok ? Apparently, he's married *shudder*
He manned up to his mistakes and openly accepted his punishment in full. Personally, I believe that that is a trait of a true man. He was at a festival and was having fun. You can only criticize a person's character so much when they're drunk. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
191
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:31:00 -
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Skilfer Azizora wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:StevieTopSiders wrote:Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does? I think the major issue here is he didn't act like a grown man AT ALL. Let alone a "great man". Please... keep your pants on ok ? Apparently, he's married *shudder* He manned up to his mistakes and openly accepted his punishment in full. Personally, I believe that that is a trait of a true man. He was at a festival and was having fun. You can only criticize a person's character so much when they're drunk.
So does this mean people convicted of manslaughter while DUI shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? It's comparable.
Regardless, I think The Mittani made the right move to step down, regardless of what his Goonions think/want. There is always CSM8. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Ogogov
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:44:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Skilfer Azizora wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:StevieTopSiders wrote:Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does? I think the major issue here is he didn't act like a grown man AT ALL. Let alone a "great man". Please... keep your pants on ok ? Apparently, he's married *shudder* He manned up to his mistakes and openly accepted his punishment in full. Personally, I believe that that is a trait of a true man. He was at a festival and was having fun. You can only criticize a person's character so much when they're drunk. So does this mean people convicted of manslaughter while DUI shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? It's comparable. Regardless, I think The Mittani made the right move to step down, regardless of what his Goonions think/want. There is always CSM8.
Did you just compare DUI/Manslaughter to what happened? |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
330
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Posted - 2012.03.29 01:50:00 -
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Skilfer Azizora wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:StevieTopSiders wrote:Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does? I think the major issue here is he didn't act like a grown man AT ALL. Let alone a "great man". Please... keep your pants on ok ? Apparently, he's married *shudder* He manned up to his mistakes and openly accepted his punishment in full. Personally, I believe that that is a trait of a true man. He was at a festival and was having fun. You can only criticize a person's character so much when they're drunk.
No he didn't. He cried like a little baby on the test audio server about his punishment and now is going to have Goons throw his tantrum for him. Just like he always does. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
191
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:00:00 -
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Ogogov wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Skilfer Azizora wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:StevieTopSiders wrote:Lawl. **** Squad member leaks NDA information to fat Mexican alliance member doesn't get punished, but a great man does? I think the major issue here is he didn't act like a grown man AT ALL. Let alone a "great man". Please... keep your pants on ok ? Apparently, he's married *shudder* He manned up to his mistakes and openly accepted his punishment in full. Personally, I believe that that is a trait of a true man. He was at a festival and was having fun. You can only criticize a person's character so much when they're drunk. So does this mean people convicted of manslaughter while DUI shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? It's comparable. Regardless, I think The Mittani made the right move to step down, regardless of what his Goonions think/want. There is always CSM8. Did you just compare DUI/Manslaughter to what happened?
The argument being made is that The Mittani isn't at fault because he was drunk. My argument was that drinking does impair judgement, but you are still accountable for those actions. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
5
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:14:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
If there is anyone who is a disgrace in these matters it is you. You were not party to the incident yet you are drawn to it like a fly to **** to try to promote your own agenda.
Mittens at least realizes the dichotomy of leading an alliance of incredibly amoral people and being Chairman. Meanwhile you are so desperate for votes you were trying to lure them with PLEX, and scamming them to boot. How convenient you don't hold yourself up to that same standard of moral purity you seem so eager to weigh others against.
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
331
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:21:00 -
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Urziel99 wrote: Mittens at least realizes the dichotomy of leading an alliance of incredibly amoral people and being Chairman. Meanwhile you are so desperate for votes you were trying to lure them with PLEX, and scamming them to boot. How convenient you don't hold yourself up to that same standard of moral purity you seem so eager to weigh others against.
Um, no, he doesn't realize the dichotomy of leading an alliance of incredibly amoral people and being Chairman. If he did, he would still BE Chairman, and on the CSM, and not banned for 30 days, and not barred from all future CSM elections. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Madame Fanney
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:24:00 -
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http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march
Lol Goons finally on the whining end of the game booo hooo; yall made a boo boo GET OVER IT!!
Snot snot!! Btw itGÇÖs a goon & goon friend friend heavy panel anyway, look at the alliance numbers and you can tell where all the votes came from.
I find it humorous that GÇ£the GREAT mittaniGÇ¥ thinks he was thrown under the bus by CCP when he was the one who knew there was more scrutiny because Sony and Dust 514, but still decided make an ass out of eve and our community. Go ahead and blow Jita up, be mad at CCp Mittens but youGÇÖre the one who made the boo boo. SNOT SNOT
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Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
5
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:48:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Urziel99 wrote: Mittens at least realizes the dichotomy of leading an alliance of incredibly amoral people and being Chairman. Meanwhile you are so desperate for votes you were trying to lure them with PLEX, and scamming them to boot. How convenient you don't hold yourself up to that same standard of moral purity you seem so eager to weigh others against.
Um, no, he doesn't realize the dichotomy of leading an alliance of incredibly amoral people and being Chairman. If he did, he would still BE Chairman, and on the CSM, and not banned for 30 days, and not barred from all future CSM elections.
Thanks for trying to dodge for Darius.
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Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.03.29 02:52:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: ... We are now planning an attempt to destroy Jita itself ... And now this is becoming very sad indeed.
Please, dear Sir, you need to relax. Please use your 30 day absence to think about your life. I'm honestly worried about stress levels that you might have received during past events.
It would be a shame to remember you as The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of La Goonswarm.
This is just a game. Take care.
...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:04:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement....
Dear Sir, I think you also need to relax and take a little brake from EVE. It's obvious that recent events clouds your judgment. Stress level in your posts are very high. Please re-think why are you wasting your energy on hate.
This is just a game. ...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
196
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:05:00 -
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Vangelios wrote:The Mittani wrote: ... We are now planning an attempt to destroy Jita itself ... And now this is becoming very sad indeed. Please, dear Sir, you need to relax. Please use your 30 day absence to think about your life. I'm honestly worried about stress levels that you might have received during past events. It would be a shame to remember you as The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of La Goonswarm. This is just a game. Take care.
You're implying that this wasn't our plan anyway. i've been stocking up ships and mods for weeks now. |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
337
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:15:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote: You're implying that this wasn't our plan anyway. i've been stocking up ships and mods for weeks now.
So, VENGEANCE WILL BE YOURS! Except you were gonna do it anyway, so how does this get payback for how poor litttle Alex was mistreated by CCP again? *confused* http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
ceaon
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:16:00 -
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i dont understand a thing he still get a chair on CSM7 or not ? looking for a coder to do this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=711072 |
Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
6
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:18:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote: You're implying that this wasn't our plan anyway. i've been stocking up ships and mods for weeks now.
So, VENGEANCE WILL BE YOURS! Except you were gonna do it anyway, so how does this get payback for how poor litttle Alex was mistreated by CCP again? *confused*
It will be much worse than originally planned.
It was going to be a victory lap. Now, well, it will be worse. |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:19:00 -
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ceaon wrote:i dont understand a thing he still get a chair on CSM7 or not ? no he wanted but ccp gave him the finger
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he stepped down from chair to normal CSM CCP banned him for 30 days and removed him from CSM CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM |
ceaon
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:24:00 -
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Lt Pizi wrote:ceaon wrote:i dont understand a thing he still get a chair on CSM7 or not ? no he wanted but ccp gave him the finger edit he stepped down from chair to normal CSM CCP banned him for 30 days and removed him from CSM
so the votes got wasted ..... so much propaganda about voting for CSM and now CCP does this bullshit ... pretty ********
looking for a coder to do this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=711072 |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:24:00 -
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Urziel99 wrote:Princess Bride wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote: You're implying that this wasn't our plan anyway. i've been stocking up ships and mods for weeks now.
So, VENGEANCE WILL BE YOURS! Except you were gonna do it anyway, so how does this get payback for how poor litttle Alex was mistreated by CCP again? *confused* It will be much worse than originally planned. It was going to be a victory lap. Now, well, it will be worse.
then you woke up
CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM |
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