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Urenna Naari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:28:00 -
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Hisec will burn. |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
30
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:28:00 -
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Andski wrote:DNSBLACK discussed entering Jove space, which is considered an exploit unless moved for the Alliance Tournament. I demand that this is investigated. close your eyes and it will happen
CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM
CCP:-á the mittani has set an example -áto follow ? |
Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
38
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:30:00 -
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Bumrush wrote:
No there does not, if you vote for a president in RL and they do something wrong and leave or get kicked out they do not do a re-vote, the person under him steps up
In the US the Vice President takes the sitting presidents place should s/he resign and a new VP gets picked from the cabinet or somesuch. No revote since the logistics would be a nightmare here. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:Andski wrote:10,058 paying customers totally ignored and disenfranchised. Good work, CCP. U mad? oh look another worthless npc alt So u still mad? |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1706
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:30:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Townsend Harris wrote:Darker Domain wrote:CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you. 70 dollar monocles was dumber than this, but not by much. Tell me that isn't you Alex? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTsI'm getting a lot of mileage out of this youtube clip
As am I reporting you for personal abuse each time.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Li Ter
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:31:00 -
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Revii Lagoon wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:One person shooting at the monument in Jita.
Jeez, come on Goonies you can do better than that. Shooting the monument is for pubbies, we are going to make Jita burn. They will need to put up a monument for the massive amount of wrecks that will blot out the gates and the undock of 4-4
butthurt much? talk to the mittani about your wasted votes....he wasted them, not us, not ccp
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1277
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:31:00 -
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Rebecca Aventine wrote:I didn't envy Alex or CCP when this broke.
I respect Alex a great deal for making his apology, but regretably this was always the most realistic outcome.
What makes this bad is that CCP yanked the CSM's chain. They sent one message to the CSM and then quite another entirely as their official position. The fallout wouldn't be nearly so bad without that misstep.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:32:00 -
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Taihbea wrote:Goons are like little kids that go nuts when they see a lolipop. Then they demand more and more and then they cry the **** out when they are put in place with the rest.
You guys are the biggest whiney bunch of sissies I have ever seen.
All your "bad ass" look is now just a LMAO subject.
Go camp rats on belts buahaha please see threads on nerfing mission loot drops, titian nerfs, super nerfs, suicide ganking nerfs, requests to punish people wo participate in hulkageddon etc.
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SolusLunes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:32:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Townsend Harris wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Townsend Harris wrote:Darker Domain wrote:CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you. 70 dollar monocles was dumber than this, but not by much. Tell me that isn't you Alex? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTsI'm getting a lot of mileage out of this youtube clip As am I reporting you for personal abuse each time.
Worth it every time, you ignorant ****. |
FalconX Blast
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:32:00 -
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Is this the first time an out-of-game slight has been bridged into being a violation of a software license agreement? That is an interesting precedent in itself, that CCP is going to police all of our thoughts and words from out-of-game now... time to update point 5 on the TOS, something like "Yes, we CCP are responsible for actions taken by our subscribers that occur outside the jurisdiction of our game servers or web site." would be more accurate with these recent actions CCP is taking. |
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Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:32:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Townsend Harris wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Townsend Harris wrote:Darker Domain wrote:CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you. 70 dollar monocles was dumber than this, but not by much. Tell me that isn't you Alex? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTsI'm getting a lot of mileage out of this youtube clip As am I reporting you for personal abuse each time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs Jane? |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
30
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:33:00 -
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Li Ter wrote:Revii Lagoon wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:One person shooting at the monument in Jita.
Jeez, come on Goonies you can do better than that. Shooting the monument is for pubbies, we are going to make Jita burn. They will need to put up a monument for the massive amount of wrecks that will blot out the gates and the undock of 4-4 butthurt much? talk to the mittani about your wasted votes....he wasted them, not us, not ccp
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wasted
oh the irony CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM
CCP:-á the mittani has set an example -áto follow ? |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:33:00 -
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Andski wrote:The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable. We could simply start a vote wether people want Mittani to get banned from CSM 7 or not. |
Valkyria Caeli
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:33:00 -
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Bumrush wrote:Vatek wrote:Schettino wrote:All those crying about the 10k vote loss.
The player has been banned and is out of the game -> LOSS OF REPRESENTATION.
PERIOD
Blame the player himself and NOT CCP. Sorry, no. There needs to be a system in place so that people who voted for candidates who either resign or are removed are still represented. Mittani's actions do not speak for the 10,058 people that voted for him. No there does not, if you vote for a president in RL and they do something wrong and leave or get kicked out they do not do a re-vote, the person under him steps up
Precisely, this is why a vice president is chosen with a president in the US and this is also why alternates are chosen alongside the members of the CSM. It is called having a backup plan. Working as intended. |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
822
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:34:00 -
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The last thing you ever want to do in EVE-Online is give goons & friends a cause to rally behind. We saw this most recently in the Branch invasion, which took under twenty days to completion, and perhaps most famously in the legendary threadnaught.
Unfortunately, we have a cause to rally behind. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:35:00 -
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Andski wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Andski wrote:The only appropriate solution is to either leave Mittani on the council or start a new election. Disenfranchising a vocal group of players with 10,058 - 20% of the voting base - accounts between them is never, ever acceptable. no its only 3% of the voting base! get over your self goon... seriously! one year and then its all mittenz again... yay Nope. Representation or bust - that's the way we roll. Then bust it is.. for the goons... |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1711
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:35:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Rebecca Aventine wrote:I didn't envy Alex or CCP when this broke.
I respect Alex a great deal for making his apology, but regretably this was always the most realistic outcome. What makes this bad is that CCP yanked the CSM's chain. They sent one message to the CSM and then quite another entirely as their official position. The fallout wouldn't be nearly so bad without that misstep. -Liang
The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.
This is the problem with sycophancy in a nutshell. Last year they got so used to being beta males to the Mittani's alpha that they lost their collective backbone and the problem now is that the CSM iself is out of touch with the player base it is supposed to represent.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Valkyria Caeli
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:35:00 -
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Atomic Option wrote:The funny side to this is that CCP itself just guaranteed that "Kill yourself, in game." will be the most common insult in the galaxy for the next six weeks.
fix'd |
Bill Banner
State War Academy Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:35:00 -
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Heathkit wrote:~ 10,058 ~
The amount of votes your WIZARD made disappear. |
Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:36:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Rebecca Aventine wrote:I didn't envy Alex or CCP when this broke.
I respect Alex a great deal for making his apology, but regretably this was always the most realistic outcome. What makes this bad is that CCP yanked the CSM's chain. They sent one message to the CSM and then quite another entirely as their official position. The fallout wouldn't be nearly so bad without that misstep. -Liang The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest. This is the problem with sycophancy in a nutshell. Last year they got so used to being beta males to the Mittani's alpha that they lost their collective backbone and the problem now is that the CSM iself is out of touch with the player base it is supposed to represent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs |
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Yeep
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:37:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.
This is the problem with sycophancy in a nutshell. Last year they got so used to being beta males to the Mittani's alpha that they lost their collective backbone and the problem now is that the CSM iself is out of touch with the player base it is supposed to represent.
So you're saying that almost the entire group of player elected representatives still represent the players less that you do because...?
Is it internet space likes? |
Bacchanalian
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
55
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:37:00 -
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Incidentally, I think CCP owe me a ban. If what you do out of game at fanfest is subject to the EULA, I violated it by impersonating Mittani throughout the week. |
James Henry Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:37:00 -
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I think CCP may and should consider the option of completely dissolving the CSM. It may be the fairest and most logical solution based on what happened last year with the Fearless scandal and that players want CCP to be as transparent with their future ideas and changes as possible.
Let's be honest, CSM6 and CSM7 are mostly people elected who represent groups of people who were formed out of the game through other websites and forums ("Something Awful", "Reddit", etc...), and they care more about their own clique than everyone else. If EVE Online ceases to exist, they will still have their clique and they will just find another game or activity to join.
Also, a group of a few players representing everyone who pays for EVE Online doesn't really fit with what EVE Online is supposed to be about: doing WHATEVER YOU want to do to become as powerful as possible (within the EULA/TOS). Other MMOs and multiplayer-based games that are more restricted in how you can play the game would work better with councils or advisors that act as intermediates between the players and the company, but ALL players should be able to tell CCP what they want with EVE Online and not have it filtered by people that may not share their views. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:37:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:Then bust it is.. for the goons...
You do not want to know how things end when we go "bust" friend "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:38:00 -
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Yeep wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.
This is the problem with sycophancy in a nutshell. Last year they got so used to being beta males to the Mittani's alpha that they lost their collective backbone and the problem now is that the CSM iself is out of touch with the player base it is supposed to represent.
So you're saying that almost the entire group of player elected representatives still represent the players less that you do because...? Is it internet space likes? I think the youtube clip says it better than :words: |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1711
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:38:00 -
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Bacchanalian wrote:Incidentally, I think CCP owe me a ban. If what you do out of game at fanfest is subject to the EULA, I violated it by impersonating Mittani throughout the week.
Nobody really cares since you don't represent anyone but yourself.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Shepard Book
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:38:00 -
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Not surprising. You let him step down and not be kicked from CSM. Then you BAN him for only a month... He got off easy. He is lucky to have an account.
" As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review. "
Seriously?
As for the rest of the CSM saying you have issues with him being kicked... Do you even realize what he got kicked for? You have no leg to stand on about him being gone because the X chairperson knocked it from under you himself.
Cya in space in a month... |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:38:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:The last thing you ever want to do in EVE-Online is give goons & friends a cause to rally behind. We saw this most recently in the Branch invasion, which took under twenty days to completion, and perhaps most famously in the legendary threadnaught.
Unfortunately, we have a cause to rally behind.
Have you guys realize your actions will be fueling even more CCP revenue with publicity and embargos and power to the player etc bringing more subscriptions right ? |
Derrick Munroe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
45
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:39:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:
The CSM reached a wrong decision.
So in essence you're saying the CSM is powerless? Good to know CCP of 8 months ago is back. |
Della Monk
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
15
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:39:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.
Then CCP should have told them this? |
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