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Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.04.06 08:12:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:The beginning of the above post had sense (EVE is important, we do care, we are looking for boundaries). Then it went down the drain, assuming that all or most of the outrage would be abusing someone's perceived hurt to attack one person, instead of actually, well caring about the boundaries.
I like your avatar. I think that's about all I can say about the space above this post that doesn't violate the EULA or the TOS.
Your grammar was good too.
So self-serving, so sad that CCP let this happen and made real ISK doing so.
To be honest any other company would be getting sued by their client for breach of contract. You don't throw drunks at your own bar under the bus.
CCP published the behavior live. CCP violated their own TOS and their own EULA.
An individual is falliable. Corporations are supposed to insulate against that falliability, not expose it and then feign, "Oops!"
I maintain that regardless of the limited culpability of an inebriated individual for an off-color remark, a corporation should be held to much, much higher standards. By asserting that the broadcast was tantamount to their forums, they also assert that the broadcast was moderated in a way becoming of CCP. After all, this is true of their forums. A post such as this would have been wiped out. A FORUM ban may (or may not) have been given. But it would have been handled professionally.
This was not in any way, shape, or form "professional."
I still like your avatar. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
225
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Posted - 2012.04.06 08:14:00 -
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I have no idea why you are talking to me about CCP's responsibility in this as a response to what I posted; the two do not seem related. As before, you seem to labor under the illusion that there's only two sides to the debate and if someone holds one opinion, they hold a bunch of others too. I posted nothing that as far I can see could be construed as defense of CCP or denying that they had their share of the responsibility too?
I am afraid the thought has crossed my mind that you must be Mittani alt - who else but the person in trouble himself could be so hurt by the event that the perception of it being UNFAIR that his response to anything posted (even posts that do not mention him at all) is to find someone else to blame?
Thank you for the kind words though. I quite like how that portrait turned out myself. |
Whitehound
26
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Posted - 2012.04.06 10:29:00 -
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EVE Online is Tears Online, now with tears by CSM and tears by voters. |
Slumber Hawk
Shadow on the moon
9
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Posted - 2012.04.06 16:01:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:EVE Online is Tears Online, now with tears by CSM and tears by voters.
just change tears to graves and we're talking about the same topic. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
256
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Posted - 2012.04.06 17:21:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:I have no idea why you are talking to me about CCP's responsibility in this as a response to what I posted; the two do not seem related. As before, you seem to labor under the illusion that there's only two sides to the debate and if someone holds one opinion, they hold a bunch of others too. I posted nothing that as far I can see could be construed as defense of CCP or denying that they had their share of the responsibility too?
I am afraid the thought has crossed my mind that you must be Mittani alt - who else but the person in trouble himself could be so hurt by the event and the perception of it being UNFAIR that his response to anything posted (even posts that do not mention him at all) is to find someone else to blame?
Thank you for the kind words though. I quite like how that portrait turned out myself.
You're welcome. It really is a fetching portrait.
My point was just to emphasize that the post you said "went down the drain" did no such thing.
That is a simple matter of perspective. And no, there are not just "two sides."
There are clearly at least three sides. Maybe four if you count the gaming press. Five with the coalition of whine themselves.
1. The Mittani 2. The Wis 3. CCP 4. Gaming Press? 5. Self-serving Rabble
It's obviously more complicated than "two sides." He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
230
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Posted - 2012.04.06 17:38:00 -
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Nevermind, you either totally missed my point about the sides, or intentionally misinterpreted it. It does not seem you are able to see anything in this except people who agree with you on everything related to it, and "self-serving rabble" who disagree with you on everything. The idea that someone might agree with you on some things and disagree with you on others seems to be completely impossible...
Just remember that you saying it is so does not make it so - not even if you get the final word. It would serve some agendas to make this a Mittani vs the World issue, but that's not what it is. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
256
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Posted - 2012.04.06 18:08:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Nevermind, you either totally missed my point about the sides, or intentionally misinterpreted it. It does not seem you are able to see anything in this except people who agree with you on everything related to it, and "self-serving rabble" who disagree with you on everything. The idea that someone might agree with you on some things and disagree with you on others seems to be completely impossible... Just remember that you saying it is so does not make it so - not even if you get the final word. It would serve some agendas to make this a Mittani vs the World issue, but that's not what it is.
I was really just trying to explain my response to your post.
How can your reply be that "you either totally missed my point about the sides, or intentionally misinterpreted it?"
I was trying to explain, in the context of your reply about the exceptionally good post about how self-serving many of the loudest voices truly are, why I would reply to your comment with what I did.
Then you changed gears and said that there were more sides and issues and that's fine too.
Now you're saying I apparently don't understand...and that I DELIBERATELY misinterpreted you? Oh really? I think you were quite freaking clear. Evasive, combattive, but clear. Look, all I'm saying is that the post about the self-serving rabble was a good one. I AGREE that there is (limited) individual culpability here. But the circumstances are a complete and total sham.
Apparently even you share a sliver of this sentiment, but you see fit to continue to berate any attempt I make at illuminating this shameful set of circumstances with hyperbole and fallacies. I understand that you may not disagree with everything I might have to say about this, OK? Is that any better? From now on I will preface everything I post with "I understand that some of you may or may not agree with each of these points, and that our collective agreements may also differ on other, as yet unmentioned points."
For somebody who likes to toss around the "last word" euphamism, you sure seem pretty obsessed with it to be honest. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Slumber Hawk
Shadow on the moon
9
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Posted - 2012.04.06 22:55:00 -
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Darth Gustav,
If you agree with Mittani than just say so, no need to lower the thread to a different standard.
on a (potential) mmo offenders side note: I'm happy to hear the news about registered sex offenders being removed from a couple of mmo's. Plenty of room left for improvement though. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
287
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Posted - 2012.04.07 04:32:00 -
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Slumber Hawk wrote:Darth Gustav,
If you agree with Mittani than just say so, no need to lower the thread to a different standard.
on a (potential) mmo offenders side note: I'm happy to hear the news about registered sex offenders being removed from a couple of mmo's. Plenty of room left for improvement though. If you agree that's a strawman argument just say so.
Fallacious statements really add a lot of substance to the discussion... He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Nathaniel Sandalphon
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.04.07 10:17:00 -
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Can we please stop crying (especially Goons and afiliates) abut this CSM issue, its old newsGǪ
Muttantani got drunk while wearing the cool kid wizard hat (auction it, am sure you could secure a few votes for the next CSM election) and all of a sudden 10.058 wentGǪhow do you say itGǪPOOF? It was more like "fttt" over here but I was far from the "epicenter".
No re-vote, if you don't like, do what your commander in chief told the other guy. Am not good at quoting people but it had something to do with "flesruoy llik"
So kidsGǪwhat have we learned? Role Playing in real live while intoxicated is dangerous!!!!
Now go play the serious space ship game and have a beer. |
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Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.04.07 10:30:00 -
[1481] - Quote
Nathaniel Sandalphon wrote:Can we please stop crying (especially Goons and afiliates) abut this CSM issue, its old newsGǪ
Muttantani got drunk while wearing the cool kid wizard hat (auction it, am sure you could secure a few votes for the next CSM election) and all of a sudden 10.058 wentGǪhow do you say itGǪPOOF? It was more like "fttt" over here but I was far from the "epicenter".
No re-vote, if you don't like, do what your commander in chief told the other guy. Am not good at quoting people but it had something to do with "flesruoy llik"
So kidsGǪwhat have we learned? Role Playing in real live while intoxicated is dangerous!!!!
Now go play the serious space ship game and have a beer.
welcome to the thread
thanks for your useless contribution |
Mugged Yougot
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.08 18:08:00 -
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Mugged Yougot wrote:ConXtionS wrote:Lets start with your dumb leaders words... "I AM NOT A CYBER BULLY"
Well here is the Dictionary
cyber- GÇé
a combining form meaning GÇ£computer,GÇ¥ GÇ£computer network,GÇ¥ or GÇ£virtual reality,GÇ¥ used in the formation of compound words ( cybertalk; cyberart; cyberspace ) and by extension meaning GÇ£very modernGÇ¥ ( cyberfashion ).
bul-+ly 1 GÇé GÇé[bool-ee] Show IPA noun, plural -lies, verb, -lied, -ly-+ing, adjective, interjection
noun 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.
So a Cyber Bully is someone who uses a computer to badger or INTIMIDATE smaller or weaker people. Miners cant fight back, and people whose real lives SUCK SO MUCH that they might end their own lives are weaker. So that pretty much sounds right to me. If you feel badgered or intimidated by the actions of some random idiot residing on the other side of the planet, you should grow some balls. No, really.. Grow some balls. Or quit playing.. That's also an option. The difference between someone being bullied and someone getting **** in a computer-game is that essentially you can stop playing a game, so it's on your terms and in your power to decide weather or not to be a subject of it, while someone being bullied does not have any way of escaping the degrading actions of others. An example of this is humiliating pictures on facebook. ConXtionS wrote:Finally, you goons try to act as if your mittens made one small mistake. IT WASNT!
He made all those slides, sent in a prepared speech to be looked over by ccp where he said "If you are a miner we WANT YOU TO KILL YOURSELF bla bla bla"
Here are the facts, not everyone who plays this game is healthy, not everyone is here for YOUR entertainment, and if you catch the right person at the right moment your "GO KILL YOURSELF" bullcrap just might send someone over the edge. An edge that your actions pushed them over... Oh come on!! If you are trying to decide whether or not to end your life, do you really think it comes down to what some random person said to you in a ******* computer game? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? I'm not defending Mittoni's actions, because joking about suicide is not acceptable in most social situations. Mittoni should have realized that this guy was in an awful situation in his life and thus there are no reason to knock them down even further, but going as far as saying Mittoni might have been the cause of a person killing himself is just ******* ********. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
235
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Posted - 2012.04.08 19:22:00 -
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^ Without intending this as on a comment on The Mittani's case, has it occurred to you that people who contemplate ending their lives might not be in a state where they are very good at rational thought? Such things are usually decided in a mental, emotional state where things feel irrationally hopeless, and where you are under the illusion that everyone and everything is against you. Adding to such feelings by behaving in a way that seems to confirm the feelings can really matter, even though similar behavior would at worst merely annoy someone who is not at the brink already. |
Mugged Yougot
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.08 21:02:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:^ Without intending this as on a comment on The Mittani's case, has it occurred to you that people who contemplate ending their lives might not be in a state where they are very good at rational thought? Such things are usually decided in a mental, emotional state where things feel irrationally hopeless, and where you are under the illusion that everyone and everything is against you. Adding to such feelings by behaving in a way that seems to confirm the feelings can really matter, even though similar behavior would at worst merely annoy someone who is not at the brink already. Yes, but this person did not indicate that he wanted to take his own life, thus Mittani's comment were nothing but a bad joke presented at the wrong location. I'm pretty sure Mittani would not make this joke if the victim was standing on a chair in front of him with a rope around his neck. If we all were to tiptoe around each other in fear of making a joke with a subject which someone might be related to, humor would pretty much be dead. What is essential in this case is that a drunk person was standing on a stage wearing a ******* wizard-hat, so I would claim it to be pretty obvious that everything coming out of said person's mouth should be taken with a grain of salt. Mittani made a mistake, we all do, but that does not necessary make him an evil person with intent of inflict pain, chaos and misery upon everyone around him.
Also, what baffles me is that several people are referring to his conversation before the presentation as something that strengthens the case of his "conviction". If anything, this conversation proves the absolute opposite. It proves that his joke was not particularly directed at the victim in order to make him kill himself, but more like a declaration of his IN-GAME enemies. |
NekoKitten
Neko Industry 'n' PvE
1
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Posted - 2012.04.10 18:33:00 -
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Sweet Goon Tears
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T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:17:00 -
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NekoKitten wrote:Sweet Goon Tears I love the tastes of goon tears, they taste like cherry karma, please keep those tears coming goonies, they're soooo addictive.
"People pay for what they do, and still more, for what they have allowed themselves to become. And they pay for it simply: by the lives they lead." - Edith Wharton |
T-B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.11 05:15:00 -
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Oh and four quick questions if I may...
1. When is Jita supposed to burn? 2. Will I be able to order it on pay per view in Metro? 3. How will doing something pretty much everyone has wished they could do themselves punish CCP for banning your megalomaniac leader? 4. Will Goonswarm have enough players left to pull this off after so many have apparently emorage quit? |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
304
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Posted - 2012.04.11 08:13:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Oh and four quick questions if I may...
1. When is Jita supposed to burn? 2. Will I be able to order it on pay per view in Metro? 3. How will doing something pretty much everyone has wished they could do themselves punish CCP for banning your megalomaniac leader? 4. Will Goonswarm have enough players left to pull this off after so many have apparently emorage quit?
1. Even idiots can count. 2. No. 3. Imagine all the whining from thousands of high-sec bears all barred from hauling/trading. Tears, galore! 4. So now you're suddenly good at math? Somehow I doubt it. See also: Tenal. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Psichotic
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.04.12 05:14:00 -
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In regards to the incident of prevailing discussion, CCP absolutely made the right decision. I applaud their actions. It is both wrong and illegal to incite someone to kill themselves. In fact, I would go further to say that they should make themselves aware of the extent of the problem. I am not an attorney and all statements I make herein are to be regarded as my personal opinion, but if I were their attorney I would advise them to include the specific language "cyberbullying" and "encouraging self-harm or harm to others" in their TOS. They should also, IMO, include language to the effect that violation of the Hate Crimes Prevention Act is also a violation of the TOS. This would help cover them should someone who is mentally ill harm themselves, although I would imagine proactive measures would be the best assurance of limitation of liability.
When people are online they tend to forget they live under the rule of law. As it pertains to the encouragement of suicide, United States case law has generally treated it as mala in se. In Burnett v. People (Ill.) 68 N. E. 505, 66 L. R. A. 304, 98 Am. St. Rep. 206 GÇô a case of a suicide pact GÇô the court held that the accomplice was in fact a principal in the offense, and that it was in and of itself, a natural crime to encourage another to commit the act of suicide. According to the legal precedent I was able to dig up in ~5min if you are an adult and incite someone to kill themselves you could be adjudicated guilty of murder.
If you are a minor such an incident might be covered under cyberbullying legislation, if you're lucky and don't get charged as an adult. In the U.S. cyberbullying is an illegal activity. All 50 states have cyberbullying laws. In most states it is a misdemeanor. A couple states, like Missouri, have upgraded it to a felony.
The fact is, if you take things too far and someone does hurt themselves, there will probably be media attention. In that case you will be judged first in the court of public opinion, and then in a court of law. You will find that while the people you have surrounded yourself with may not see anything wrong with your behavior the society you live in will not tolerate cyberbullying and certainly not incitement to commit suicide. These laws are the will of not 10,000 gamers, but hundreds of millions of citizens. Whether it is covered as part of the agreement you have made with the game owners is irrelevant.
Like it or not, agree with it or don't, but follow it or risk it. The consequences for the intentional or accidental serious injury or death of a person will be followed by actions against you by law enforcement. If your own conscious is not enough to prevent you from being a shmuck or you don't understand why it is considered wrong to be a shmuck, you would do yourself a favor by remembering that everything you do online is recorded.
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Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
332
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Posted - 2012.04.12 18:21:00 -
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Psichotic wrote:In regards to the incident of prevailing discussion, CCP absolutely made the right decision. I applaud their actions. It is both wrong and illegal to incite someone to kill themselves. In fact, I would go further to say that they should make themselves aware of the extent of the problem. I am not an attorney and all statements I make herein are to be regarded as my personal opinion, but if I were their attorney I would advise them to include the specific language "cyberbullying" and "encouraging self-harm or harm to others" in their TOS. They should also, IMO, include language to the effect that violation of the Hate Crimes Prevention Act is also a violation of the TOS. This would help cover them should someone who is mentally ill harm themselves, although I would imagine proactive measures would be the best assurance of limitation of liability.
When people are online they tend to forget they live under the rule of law. As it pertains to the encouragement of suicide, United States case law has generally treated it as mala in se. In Burnett v. People (Ill.) 68 N. E. 505, 66 L. R. A. 304, 98 Am. St. Rep. 206 GÇô a case of a suicide pact GÇô the court held that the accomplice was in fact a principal in the offense, and that it was in and of itself, a natural crime to encourage another to commit the act of suicide. According to the legal precedent I was able to dig up in ~5min if you are an adult and incite someone to kill themselves you could be adjudicated guilty of murder.
If you are a minor such an incident might be covered under cyberbullying legislation, if you're lucky and don't get charged as an adult. In the U.S. cyberbullying is an illegal activity. All 50 states have cyberbullying laws. In most states it is a misdemeanor. A couple states, like Missouri, have upgraded it to a felony.
The fact is, if you take things too far and someone does hurt themselves, there will probably be media attention. In that case you will be judged first in the court of public opinion, and then in a court of law. You will find that while the people you have surrounded yourself with may not see anything wrong with your behavior the society you live in will not tolerate cyberbullying and certainly not incitement to commit suicide. These laws are the will of not 10,000 gamers, but hundreds of millions of citizens. Whether it is covered as part of the agreement you have made with the game owners is irrelevant.
Like it or not, agree with it or don't, but follow it or risk it. The consequences for the intentional or accidental serious injury or death of a person will be followed by actions against you by law enforcement. If your own conscious is not enough to prevent you from being a shmuck or you don't understand why it is considered wrong to be a shmuck, you would do yourself a favor by remembering that everything you do online is recorded.
Heavy ****. This really underscores CCP's culpability and liability for broadcasting it live via stream with no delay, for profit no less, doesn't it?
Seriously heavy ****. I had no idea CCP could get into so much trouble for broadcasting that **** live (and therefore tacitly assuming responsibility for their for-profit "content," such as it was).
Seriously. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
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Adoniah Carrefour
the Whatley Brothers
11
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Posted - 2012.04.12 21:53:00 -
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Its not an invalidation of a election to remove someone for violating terms of agreement anyways. CCP provided drinks cuz they are cool, the Mittani said stupid crap because he can't hold his liquor. During a live broadcast. During a pivotal year in the development of the company. The inherent cruelty of Eve remains intact .. the **** got a time out for pete's sake and gave up the chair his own self.
Learn how to hold your booze. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
417
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:04:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Heavy ****. This really underscores CCP's culpability and liability for broadcasting it live via stream with no delay, for profit no less, doesn't it?
Seriously heavy ****. I had no idea CCP could get into so much trouble for broadcasting that **** live (and therefore tacitly assuming responsibility for their for-profit "content," such as it was).
Seriously. Oh yeah, they were selling those HD streams, weren't they?
Didn't get one, but I heard they were buggy or something like that?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Demosthenes O'Connor
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 05:16:00 -
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Obvious solution is obvious:
It's not that I want CCP to lose business but as a consumer it seems clear that if CCP is not providing a service for which the 10,058 wish to pay, the 10,058 should consider closing their accounts and finding another game.
Otherwise the 10,058 need to htfu.
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor Federal Consensus Outreach
798
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Posted - 2012.04.22 00:10:00 -
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I am utterly astounded by the Goon sense of entitlement in this thread. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
1
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:17:00 -
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As far as I see the matter at hand, CCP and Mittani reacted both in a sensible way, assuming, that the chain of events was as it was later stated. What was being said by the Mittani is an clearly unaccepteble public call to force someone into harming himself in reallife. Yes, it was a bad idea to give sensible informations about his real identity in the ingame bio. And yes, it might help future matters to clarify the TOS for such events as the fanfest. The fact that he was drunk (upon which he shouldn't have been allowed to speak officially as a CSM member), was taken into account by not banning him from future CSMs. Thus a wellrounded decission was taken by both sides. Those crying out about this, state that they perceive the RL wellbeing of other people of no importance to them. While EVE is perceived as an harsh universe, contrasting most other mmos out there, which I find to be refreshing, the line has to be drawn when it comes to potential RL consequences. Given the publicness of the incident and the prominence of the actor, CCP had no choice but to step in. Wether or not the votes he received are worthless now, lies in the hands of the other CSM members. |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:40:00 -
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considering that far less will get your account perma-banned from the game, the fact that Mittens is allowed back in is something that is interesting. |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.04.27 03:37:00 -
[1497] - Quote
Kusum Fawn wrote:considering that far less will get your account perma-banned from the game, the fact that Mittens is allowed back in is something that is interesting. Goon subscriptions.
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Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.04.27 05:02:00 -
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EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE
1.You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
2.You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)
4.You may not use GÇ£role-playingGÇ¥ as an excuse to violate these rules. While EVE Online is a persistent world, fantasy role-playing game, the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior. Role-playing is encouraged, but not at the expense of other player. You may not create or participate in a corporation or group that habitually violates this policy.
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world.
19. You may not communicate, post or publicize any subscriberGÇÖs personal information within the EVE Online game world or website.
EULA 6.5 You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
1 month ban? seems legit
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xCabalx
Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering
3
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Posted - 2012.05.13 04:24:00 -
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A 30-day ban is nothing compared to what he pulled off against that guy. Good lord was this weak... |
nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
25
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Posted - 2012.06.02 10:51:00 -
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He should be happy he was not permaban like alot are calling for.
If he had done that in the state he be in handcuff. hes voters are S.O.L CSM chair's are voted on and filled by players but are only there at the will of ccp rember that in the end ccp hold all the card when it comes to csm chair and if they wanted to deside to disban csm and we wont have any csm. so stop your crying move on. |
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