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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 15:34:00 -
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I got podded unexpectedly last night, (I figured they'd try to ransom me in low-sec when I was out for some, er, active adversarial training and got baited by pirates, knowing full well they had no intention of giving me an equal fight.)
Anyway, for whatever reason this sticks in my craw, and I figure I'd either ask for a corp or group of nasty-minded individuals to go and pod these dungbuckets, or just generally make them miserable for a variable period of time.
I think maybe it was the immature way they tried to bait me back with rather pathetic lies like my implants are stuck in my corpse and they need me to hit them with a salvager that turned the key in my anger ignition, but I'd like to have these guys hurt.
What's the going rate for either a war or a few low-sec gankings of some flashy red sleazeballs?
Full disclosure: I've done my fair amount of piracy (I blew up a goon in a newbie ship once, and.... well, actually that's about it. Oh, and there was the kill in .1 space against a drake that was in area claimed to be protected by a corp, that was primarily done as a demonstration that they couldn't protect people in the area) too, but I always ransom, and haven't ever podded anyone other than a flashy red with a bounty.
But anyway I'm just curious about the costs of revenge. I won't claim justice, this is all about putting some hurt on flashy reds who were neither mature nor intelligent about their treatment of others, and is more about salving my annoyed feelings than anything else.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.25 15:51:00 -
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get used to getting ganked, if you cant cope with getting ganked then you'll ragequit the game pretty quickly, chalk it up as a learning experience its not easy get revenge unless you put the time and effort into researching your opponents + war dec + infiltrating their corp with an alt if you are so inclined.
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Dawts
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Posted - 2008.09.25 15:53:00 -
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sounds like you got what you deserved. Cut your losses and give it up.
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.25 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Goyda on 25/09/2008 15:56:13
 Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
I got podded unexpectedly last night, (I figured they'd try to ransom me in low-sec when I was out for some, er, active adversarial training and got baited by pirates, knowing full well they had no intention of giving me an equal fight.)
Well you got podded because you assumed you wouldn't get shot. Perhaps you should have offered a ransom in lieu of wondering why they didn't ransom. You were there to gank someone and got ganked.
Well then why did you fight ? And it wasn't that big of an offset. I've seen Jags take on more than that and get away.
Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
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I think maybe it was the immature way they tried to bait me back with rather pathetic lies like my implants are stuck in my corpse and they need me to hit them with a salvager that turned the key in my anger ignition, but I'd like to have these guys hurt.
I think this is quite funny actually. And since you are so upset you lost your internet spaceship, this joke made you angry.
Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
What's the going rate for either a war or a few low-sec gankings of some flashy red sleazeballs?
We prefer scoundrels. We at Destry's do honor 1 v 1, if you wanted to not get baited you should have offered a 1 v 1. We also honor ransoms, if you had offered, you might even have saved your ship. Which BTW has me mad because now Suzarn is ahead of me in points on the KB and that just can't happen.
Thanks for the tears, I'm sure the other will be along to collect a cup.
Oh, before I forget...Can I have your stuff ?
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 15:59:00 -
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Heh, you seem to assume I'm crying in my beer about this, I'm not, just more of a slow-burn annoyance.
It was one AF vs. a frig, a SB, and another AF.
I'd prefer, you know, useful replies? As in the actual expense that goes into a revenge wardec, etc.
Theoretically I could just pay my own corp to do it, but I suspect there aren't enough of these guys to get Legi0n a decent fight. (Or they'd all dock up.)
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Father Dibbles
Self Aggrandisement Society
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
I'd prefer, you know, useful replies? As in the actual expense that goes into a revenge wardec, etc.
Sorry bud but this is the wrong place to ask a serious question - infact probably the worst place. If you really want a quote, look up one of the threads listing Merc corps - and contact them in turn, in game.
You will only end up banging your head against a wall even more here.
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
Heh, you seem to assume I'm crying in my beer about this, I'm not, just more of a slow-burn annoyance.
It was one AF vs. a frig, a SB, and another AF.
I'd prefer, you know, useful replies? As in the actual expense that goes into a revenge wardec, etc.
Theoretically I could just pay my own corp to do it, but I suspect there aren't enough of these guys to get Legi0n a decent fight. (Or they'd all dock up.)
Yeah a frig, SB and AF, _vs_ an AF is not horrible. Just take your loss, chalk it up to experience. Sheesh.
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:16:00 -
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That's depressing. I had hoped that I might get a coherent answer instead of self-satisfied bloviation.
Man, some of the other forums have given me right useful responses to their queries, I guess this one is notoriously bad at that or something?
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:17:00 -
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As far as taking the loss and chalking it up to experience, certainly. Forgetting I was podded? Unlikely.
That sorta thing can itch at a guy a while and I was wondering how best to get a bit of scratch on said itch.
Beh, I'll probably just ask my own corp to do it, worse comes to worse, but I was curious about the various methodologies people utilize to put a bit of hurt on someone for a personal affront in Eve.
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mothyowns
teeny tiny space pirates
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:18:00 -
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Quote:
It was one AF vs. a frig, a SB, and another AF.
Man, I hope I'm on the forums when he posts about running into a gate camp 
"OMG I need about 25 people podded ASAP!!"
mothy
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:25:00 -
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Thank you for the useful contribution to the question at hand.
I'm sure I've never been taken out in a gate camp...
oh wait, I got wasted in a 0.0 bubble the other day, and I certainly didn't post in here about it. (To be fair my pod got away.)
I was actually curious about the mechanics of sticking it to someone, but I guess people here are content to troll instead.
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
That's depressing. I had hoped that I might get a coherent answer instead of self-satisfied bloviation.
Look at it from this side: Every day people get blown up in New Eden - just open your starmap and colour stars by ships or pods blown up in the last hour and you see that you are not alone .
You got baited? Great - take it as a lesson not to swallow the bait next time. Know whom you engage and their tactics. You have just collected an important piece of intel but I wonder if it is of any use to you.
Next time try offering a 1v1 if you like - in the worst case you would find out that it's not honored, make a note and get over it. In the best case you find someone who does honor them and you can come back again and again having countless hours of fun.
Just show a little respect for the people who defeated you, they might respect you more then...
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:39:00 -
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It's rather difficult to respect someone who's first attempt at a conversation is a puerile attempt at deceit. And continues to try to trick you, post battle.
And I was quite aware it was a trap, I was curious to see if I could break the trap and get out with a ship kill.
I just have a bit of an aggression issue and was looking for some semi-indiscriminate "pew-pew" as it were, seeing as how I have this tendency to be the guy to miss the fight during our (constant) corp-warring.
I could have asked for a 1 v 1 but I knew from the start of the initial baiting convo it wouldn't be honored, I was just rolling the dice and the battlin spreadsheets left me in the dust, but I am philosophically the sort not to let this sort of thing lie, so I became curious about what it would take to put a bit of sand in their gas tank, as it were.
I'm not the sort of guy to ragequit, and heck, I did manage to get the frigate, and if my situational awareness had been better I reckon I could have possibly gotten the AF as well, but I knew pretty well I was gonna lose my ship if I took that fight, the pod was an unexpected and frustrating loss, and the conversations that took place before and after just sort of stuck out to me as slightly, eh, annoying, so there you have it.
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Tuberider
Caldari
Pothouse Cartel
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:47:00 -
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Why does everyone that gets popped in low sec think that pirates should fight fair 
adapt or die nothing is fair in this game,learn to avoid such situations or have some buddies to help turn the fight.
ITS EVIL and i lub it yaaarrrrr 
Your mother is a hampster and your father smells of elderberries
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:55:00 -
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I er, don't think pirates should fight fair.
I was just annoyed that they insulted my intelligence with the corpse comment, and the pretty transparent invitation to a gank.
Truthfully I don't like losing my internet spaceships all that much, even ones built to die like that tackler-built AF.
This began as an inquiry into revenge, just for personal reasons... now it looks more like a self-indictment of the seriousness (and in some cases reading comprehension) of this sub-forum.
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FOl2TY8
Revolutionary United Front
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 25/09/2008 17:00:25
I am a fairly new player and I have been podded about 5 times. I haven't once gotten as mad as you have. My response is to train myself so that it doesn't happen again, and at the same time get my own kills in return. In fact the last couple of times I was podded was a result of a bubble in 0.0. After I learned to spam the "warp to" button I have successfully evaded getting podded in low sec every time I have lost a ship (neener neener BYDI). Soon enough I will not only lose a ship but I will also get Crazy Tasty to half shields... Yeah you better be scared...
Sounds to me like you are taking this personally. Like Gneez said, if getting podded made you this mad.... wait till you lose your first battleship.
e*
Also if you really wanted to find out how to get revenge you could have just looked through the 9 million other posts on exactly this topic, hired an appropriate merc corp and already been on your way to vengeance. You posted because you love the sound of your own voice.
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:03:00 -
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Good point about the battleship. But in truth a BS is in some ways less expensive than implants.
I just need to grind up a lil more faction so I can jump clone, and then I guarantee I won't care a smidge if I got continously podded, as they'll be nekkid PVP clones.
Again, though, it wasn't the fight, it wasn't even the podding so much as they lame trickery they attempted in convos.
As for losing the pod that can probably actually be attributed to lag as i was spamming warp to as soon as my little space egg popped out of the jag.
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
I could have asked for a 1 v 1 but I knew from the start of the initial baiting convo it wouldn't be honored, I was just rolling the dice and the battlin spreadsheets left me in the dust, but I am philosophically the sort not to let this sort of thing lie, so I became curious about what it would take to put a bit of sand in their gas tank, as it were.
 You could try to return the favour and bait them back - but after this thread I guess they will be aware of that possibility
You could hire a mercenary corp for 0.5 to 1 billion ISK probably (just an estimation, I have no mercs pricelists lying around currently)
You could simply get over it and pod one of them when the opportunity arises.
IT IS A GAME
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:07:00 -
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That's assuming they read the forums, I've noticed a lot of people tend not to, actually.
It is a game, one I passionately enjoy.
I will certainly enjoy gettin my own back one way or another in regards to this.
Hm, a billion you say? Now I get to weigh whether a GTC expenditure is worth it, but an actual quote, even if tongue in cheek is helpful.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari
JinTech Industries
Utterly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.09.25 17:40:00 -
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I was podded once, but i bet no one gves a shit.
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M3h Skillz
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Goyda on 25/09/2008 18:19:13
Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
...I could have asked for a 1 v 1 but I knew from the start of the initial baiting convo it wouldn't be honored,
If you ask for a 1v1 with Destry's (which btw is the corp that popped/podded you) it WILL be honored. We may come to watch but will not interfere unless you have other show up. We honor ransoms and 1v1. Any in the corp who don't, well they won't be in the corp long.
Originally by: Daitetsu Minase
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Hm, a billion you say? Now I get to weigh whether a GTC expenditure is worth it, but an actual quote, even if tongue in cheek is helpful.
Dude if you paid real money to have someone DEC us just for a podding. Man you do have issues. As for them not reading the boards.....ummmm. they're my corpmates if i know, you can bet they know. 
Oh and by all means bring your corp over.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:24:00 -
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It doesn't matter *why* he wants assistance or what he wants done to someone. This is EVE, you can do whatever you want within the rules and if one wants to bring hurt for a minor annoyance- well, disproportionate response is really one of the pillars of EVE. You can hire mercs to obliterate an alliance because someone bumped you in an Ibis at the undock in Jita if you want.
To the OP: You'll find that costs, availability and ability vary widely. I suggest you read some of the "Mercs for hire" threads (there's one collecting threads about merc corps also). Costs can be from the basic cost of the wardec to billions, depending on what you need. Since your targets are flashy lowsec types, you may have more options as there's really no need for a wardec and the associated costs.
Plug: Contact Viqer Fell or Alekseyev Karrde in-game to talk with us, but also do your homework and decide which merc corp or group is the right one for your needs.
Good luck. :)
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:27:00 -
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Something else to consider if you're looking to get something done on the cheap is to find an up-and-coming merc corp. Many trying to establish a name for themselves will take on small projects, sometimes even pro bono. Of course, with no reputation or history you may find that you're not getting what you need from them, but it is an option.
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Daitetsu Minase
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:29:00 -
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Now that's the kind of response I was looking for.
Keep your eye on the profits!
And the fun. Btw, I love the idea of someone getting annihilated for bumping you in an Ibis. That's pure comedy gold.
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins
.....Plug: Contact Viqer Fell or Alekseyev Karrde in-game to talk with us, but also do your homework and decide which merc corp or group is the right one for your needs.
Good luck. :)
Looking for round 2 ? You're already here right. 
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Goyda
Originally by: Jimer Lins
.....Plug: Contact Viqer Fell or Alekseyev Karrde in-game to talk with us, but also do your homework and decide which merc corp or group is the right one for your needs.
Good luck. :)
Looking for round 2 ? You're already here right.
Heh, well- not for me to decide, I just fly the ships. ;)
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council
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Posted - 2008.09.25 18:49:00 -
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you konw, honestly, swear to god no one cares, haha, you got podded, its your own dumbass fault for falling for a bait or whatever, if you cant get your pod out, you deserve to die, anyone w/ the reflexes of a 2 year old should be able to get themselves out
when your mails to yourself get up to 30-ish like me, no one will care
when you have a full Slave set of implants and get podded, everyone will laugh, and then 3 days later, no one will care
NO
ONE
CARES
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.09.25 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 25/09/2008 19:14:00
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 25/09/2008 19:13:48
1. Oh god I'm going to lose my ship!
2. Calm down
3. Add asteroid belts or planets or something to overview
4. Select one
5. Start spamming "warp to"
6. Profit!
Tip 1: Set your default warp-to to a distance other than zero. Warp to zero to a planet with a pod can mean a smartbomber waiting for you. You'd rather be out of range of those. Yes, it happened to me once when I first started pirating.
Tip 2: You said yourself that you're a pirate/pvper. If you accept that "lifestyle", accept the consequences. Sometimes you kill, sometimes you get killed. It's how the game is played. You went into a situation knowing full well what was going on. You miscalculated.
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Dawts
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Posted - 2008.09.25 19:11:00 -
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atomic battle penguins will do it. Their thread is on the front page of c&p
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Omarvelous
Caldari
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.25 19:32:00 -
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Dear angry capsuleer,
I regret my corpmates tried such evil trickery and mischief. Such behavior has no place in low sec. They're just a bunch of jerks with nothing better to do than shoot at other people's ships and use insulting tricks. I regret not having anything of value to exchange for these wonderful tears.
Yours truly,
Self-absorbed-Bloviant CEO
Sup brosef!
Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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