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Zeoliter
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:48:00 -
[391]
Super Unknown, the Aeon that escaped in structure logged on in M-O, was probed and died.
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Drakoumel inSpace
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:52:00 -
[392]
must be masochist to continue play that game
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Bobby Atlas
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:54:00 -
[393]
Internet pixels, serious business! 
Hi slinky 
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O Thief
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:04:00 -
[394]
its funny cos when BoB lost 20 caps in 15-w or whatever its called the other day, I didn't notice a 15 page epic devsploit whine thread directed against the NC, only a few 'good fight' posts
tbh the sooner the NC quits the game en-masse the better
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:15:00 -
[395]
Anyway. Wasnt involved in M-O directly but through combination of TS/some chanels for both sides/etc etc......
Personally, i dont like events to turn out the way they did...losses on 1 side, not on other. Those that are killboard *****s and like to ****, might like it (it is nice to see many red lines on killboard)....but i prefer direct conflict.
But this is reality of EVE atm.
From what i heard during a fight, nod crashed. But at same time while some were given orders to loged of, others were thinking they are ok and "stayed loged in". This might be 1 of reason why 1 group loged in first, and others were loging in chain way. As I said, it might be 1 of a reasons....then again, it allways interesting to read all sort of theories.
but after all this years with same problem, i dont get how ppl cant coordinate common procedure when nod crash, and that is , restart completely your client and log back with patiance. _________________________________________________ XxNukeyxX is pure LEGEND. Cry me a river to his director friend, fooging carebear |

WeightedCompanionCube
Aperture Science Enrichment Center
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:35:00 -
[396]
Originally by: O Thief
tbh the sooner the NC quits the game en-masse the better
CCP did not want that subscription money anyway, they will be fine with only BoB and their fanclub left. |

KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:40:00 -
[397]
In defense of the blue forces, every KIA pilot attempted login the moment the first node crash happened.
that is 110 pilots from the 1100 in system.
By the time the very first person had loaded, local was at 120, and it was mostly bob. From the entire KIA fleet we have only 13 reported actual loads into game.. less than 15% of our fleet loaded in nearly 4 hours.
There is no fkin I win log in button, it simply must be settings and experience, but the reality remains, last nights "fight" started of well, with some pretty epic fighting, and a distinct chance for either side to win, but from the first node crash on it was a joke.
Most of the KIA guys that stuck around for nearly 4 hours attempting to log in, never loaded, and most have been paid insurance on their ships.
Now after being forced to goto bed due to work etc next day, logging back in is insta death, as BoB hold system tight.
No emorage quit from us, but a real dissapointment in how things turned out.
CCP should seriously consider how to handle last nights shit storm.
Whatever the forwad situation, gfBoB and well played. |

SpaceSavage
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:45:00 -
[398]
Eddz, its a well known fact that GBC/BOB pilots have a lower player ID, so are able to log in and take priority over others.
I thought you knew this.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:47:00 -
[399]
900 is stupid but people have been spamming BOOST M-O from both sides of the war for a week now..
But instead Jita gets the buffs....
Hope they reimburse, would be nice to see a round 2 that wasnt just lag/load times |

Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:51:00 -
[400]
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 30/09/2008 07:53:11
Originally by: O Thief its funny cos when BoB lost 20 caps in 15-w or whatever its called the other day, I didn't notice a 15 page epic devsploit whine thread directed against the NC, only a few 'good fight' posts
tbh the sooner the NC quits the game en-masse the better
Some people whine about losing internet spaceships.... some don't.... 
Originally by: KIAEddZ less than 15% of our fleet loaded in nearly 4 hours.
I'd say load percentage was about the same for us. Most (incl. me) just loaded at the end of the fight.
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Xantina
Lyonesse. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:10:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Some people whine about losing internet spaceships.... some don't.... 
And some people don't get what the whine is about, loosing ships or the way they're lost after an equal fight. Stay constructive, your mockery doesn't improve things a bit. |

Dorylaeum
Damage Unlimited Inc INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:15:00 -
[402]
gf. Had an awsome night.
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Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:31:00 -
[403]
Originally by: KIAEddZ In defense of the blue forces, every KIA pilot attempted login the moment the first node crash happened.
that is 110 pilots from the 1100 in system.
By the time the very first person had loaded, local was at 120, and it was mostly bob. From the entire KIA fleet we have only 13 reported actual loads into game.. less than 15% of our fleet loaded in nearly 4 hours.
There is no fkin I win log in button, it simply must be settings and experience, but the reality remains, last nights "fight" started of well, with some pretty epic fighting, and a distinct chance for either side to win, but from the first node crash on it was a joke.
Most of the KIA guys that stuck around for nearly 4 hours attempting to log in, never loaded, and most have been paid insurance on their ships.
Now after being forced to goto bed due to work etc next day, logging back in is insta death, as BoB hold system tight.
No emorage quit from us, but a real dissapointment in how things turned out.
CCP should seriously consider how to handle last nights shit storm.
Whatever the forwad situation, gfBoB and well played.
What he said :( |

Gamesguy
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:35:00 -
[404]
Repost from SHC
Quote: Just going back to these points:
One of our guys was apparantly tanking most of the forces (6-7 alliances) in his sieged phoenix. Most of the opposition dreads on the field were red-squared on him, and he tanked them all for what must have been at least 30 mins of that fight before they changed primary.
We wondered what was going on (or that Rick M must have found a deadspace capital shield booster!) until we found out the opposition dreads were not sieging. A phoenix can pretty easily tank 10-15 non sieged dreads in laggy conditions, especially if a number of those caps are reloading in the lag (aka Nagl's/Moros's)
Your FCs screwed up and lied to you. When I was in the NC when they screwed up they lied to me too.
/thread.
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Ver0nik
Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:53:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Xantina
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Some people whine about losing internet spaceships.... some don't.... 
your mockery doesn't improve things a bit.
What things? After crash KIA had 14% of local count, unless you have low IDs too we can assume that anyone had his chance and in the end NC/KIA/TCF/Kitchen_sink should have more ppl in system than GBC. You had more support in, more caps too.
What is NC problem then? Obvious FC incompetence from your side maybe?
GBC Titan in half armor; GBC Mothership down (there was none from GBC side) and so on... you can play this cards only (very) few times. Don't wonder when NC pilots will start doubting your words, lies are not good for morale too, I would gladly die instead of being tricked into logging back.. just to be slauthered.
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Twoside
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:58:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Ver0nik
Originally by: Xantina
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Some people whine about losing internet spaceships.... some don't.... 
your mockery doesn't improve things a bit.
What things? After crash KIA had 14% of local count, unless you have low IDs too we can assume that anyone had his chance and in the end NC/KIA/TCF/Kitchen_sink should have more ppl in system than GBC. You had more support in, more caps too.
What is NC problem then? Obvious FC incompetence from your side maybe?
GBC Titan in half armor; GBC Mothership down (there was none from GBC side) and so on... you can play this cards only (very) few times. Don't wonder when NC pilots will start doubting your words, lies are not good for morale too, I would gladly die instead of being tricked into logging back.. just to be slauthered.
Nice try. The titan in half armor was posted on caod during the node crash when everything was down, the MS were a mix up. It was said straight away we lost 2. But yeah, everything to win eh ;) |

CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:01:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Some people whine about losing internet spaceships.... some don't.... 
Some people get reimbursed twice a night and some don't. But it's hardly random, more one sided. When you think of it it's only one sided. MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:07:00 -
[408]
Originally by: Xantina
Originally by: Tzrailasa Some people whine about losing internet spaceships.... some don't.... 
And some people don't get what the whine is about, loosing ships or the way they're lost after an equal fight. Stay constructive, your mockery doesn't improve things a bit.
It is still, when all is said and done, WHINING!
Every SINGLE pilot (yours/NC/GBC) who jumped into that system KNEW the risks. We ALL knew that we might be desync'ed, killed before loading, lagged out, black-screen'd, have non-responsive modules, etc. etc. etc.
The act of jumping in means that you ACCEPT this risk. It means that YOU accept that the game has these flaws, but choose to play it anyway! After YOU have made that decision, the burden of the consequences are on YOUR shoulders!
Complaining about falling victim to a risk one WILLINGLY undertook with full knowledge of it is quite frankly PATHETIC!
Add the fact that people are whining about INTERNET SPACESHIPS just makes it even more pathetic!
More or less exactly the same situation happened to GBC last weekend. We didn't whine/*****/complain/emoragequit over it. We accepted the consequences of our own actions and the losses without complaint. We didn't besiege the forums, we didn't (afaik) besiege the petition system.
Really, you and your NC buddies are just..... (already said the word)...
YOU took the risk! YOU pay the price! (...and grow up. It's only a game...)
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |

Daveydweeb
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:14:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Tzrailasa Really, you and your NC buddies are just.....
An ellipsis is three dots.

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Sivona
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:16:00 -
[410]
Regardless fo all the moaning, we saw the server hold an 1100 fight (including 700 of those loading) for 10 minutes with fast response times and CCP need to be congratulated on that. Its a massive improvement.
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ElrondMD
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:19:00 -
[411]
rofl
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Tradena
Theseus Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:29:00 -
[412]
I had 5 hours frozen loging screen . Didnt know that static screens are chargeable now ?
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:33:00 -
[413]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
The act of jumping in means that you ACCEPT this risk. It means that YOU accept that the game has these flaws, but choose to play it anyway! After YOU have made that decision, the burden of the consequences are on YOUR shoulders!
It's a sad day indeed when one has to agree with a DICE member.
We all know how it is, yet we go for it anyway (thou some choose to select circumstances slightly less ridiculous than this).
Not sure what anyone expected, but I'm sure no one expected a good fight. It sounds like people knew it was going to be a coin toss and a race to the login screen. Sad state of affairs to be fighting in, but a fight one chooses none the less.
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C4w3
Minmatar Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2008.09.30 09:36:00 -
[414]
That was a real nice who0pin..... on another note how will the massive loss of caps affect the NC war effort regardless of isk there is a logistical issue so please dont go we have ISK .... and from a outside perspective, it seemd like a slugfeast with little or no tactics, i miss a nice battle report.
and Go B0B!  ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 10:07:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Shadoo Not sure what anyone expected, but I'm sure no one expected a good fight. It sounds like people knew it was going to be a coin toss and a race to the login screen. Sad state of affairs to be fighting in, but a fight one chooses none the less.
Well honestly, I don't know what people expected. Looking at KIA losses, they came with RR blob 
Either they tought NC will outblob GBC or that there won't be any GBC and they would go for poses(BS with no dmg mods & stuff).
Anyway, tanking nonsieged capital fleet is easy. Did it and got truncated titan mail  |

Ur235
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2008.09.30 10:09:00 -
[416]
Edited by: Ur235 on 30/09/2008 10:16:19
Lol it just seems crzy to me that the NC outnumbered GBC and yet they killed like 2 GBC ships and that was it.
Dunno if its down to seriuos incomptience of the NC FC's. But it just seems crazy that a battle can be that 1 sided with those numbers
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Daveydweeb
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.30 10:09:00 -
[417]
Originally by: C4w3 That was a real nice who0pin..... on another note how will the massive loss of caps affect the NC war effort regardless of isk there is a logistical issue so please dont go we have ISK .... and from a outside perspective, it seemd like a slugfeast with little or no tactics, i miss a nice battle report.
and Go B0B! 
This is my post.
There are many like it, but this one is mine. |

slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 10:12:00 -
[418]
No complaints from NC the other day in M-o after the node crashed with thier carriers and fleet on the gate vrs our BS?
After the node crashed more NC were able to login and get control of the gate first. In the end we had to bail. Prior to that 15w and d7 :/
It happens to both sides. |

Hells Reclaimer
Amarr The Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.09.30 10:14:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Ur235 Edited by: Ur235 on 30/09/2008 10:10:23
No way in hell can you have a fleet of 400 or so and not kill 1 ship and loose 33 dreads.
Something else is at play here that bob use to their advantage something in their general settings or something no idea what but there is no way this is right.
Im not pro bob, pro nc, or anything but something is not right doesnt tkae a genious to realise that
It's the frekin hax man i tell ya...... bob errr i mean ccp err bob well nevermind |

Flash Ahhhahhhhh
Temples of Syrinx
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Posted - 2008.09.30 10:17:00 -
[420]
You seem to all be missing the point here ...
We as consumers are paying for a product that fails to deliver.
Some people have said "you know the risk" ... indeed we all know the risk ... does that excuse the fact that in these times of financial hardship we should accept parting with hard earned RL ISK for something that is obviously broken.
People who did not even attempt to log on have no case to answer ... because they obviously did not suffer the effects ... so had the entire NC collectively decided not to log on ... then it would of simply taken the handbrake off the steamroller with no right to respond.
This is something that the entire Eve community should show some solidarity on, because without that solidarity ... there will be no epic battles, there will be no Red Vs Blue ... is that the game you want??
GBC NAP Monkeys ... even you must see that a victory over an enemy who was crippled by the game itself is a hollow victory "Ha! look at me ... I beat a guy with no legs in the 100 metres" ... many of you state that the shoe was on the other foot in 15W a couple of days previous ... then you too have a right to your ships back, in my recollection the 15W downage was only a fraction as bad as last nights in M-O ... howver maybe that is just an NC perspective.
You can flame all you like, but at the end of the day, you are flaming against yourselves in the long run.
CCP ... the ball is in your court now ... Yourselves or the playerbase ... its your call.
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