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darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Resurgency	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:25:00 - [421] Is this the same NC that brought a gang of 1000 to attack INSRG?. anyways, we all know the server cannot take this sort of load. It prob never will. So whats the MO update then?, i take it all pos reinforced etc?. d solo.
Maximillian Bayonette White Lion Manufacture and Salvage	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:26:00 - [422] Originally by: Flash Ahhhahhhhh You seem to all be missing the point here ... We as consumers are paying for a product that fails to deliver. Some people have said "you know the risk" ... indeed we all know the risk ... does that excuse the fact that in these times of financial hardship we should accept parting with hard earned RL ISK for something that is obviously broken. People who did not even attempt to log on have no case to answer ... because they obviously did not suffer the effects ... so had the entire NC collectively decided not to log on ... then it would of simply taken the handbrake off the steamroller with no right to respond. This is something that the entire Eve community should show some solidarity on, because without that solidarity ... there will be no epic battles, there will be no Red Vs Blue ... is that the game you want?? GBC NAP Monkeys ... even you must see that a victory over an enemy who was crippled by the game itself is a hollow victory "Ha! look at me ... I beat a guy with no legs in the 100 metres" ... many of you state that the shoe was on the other foot in 15W a couple of days previous ... then you too have a right to your ships back, in my recollection the 15W downage was only a fraction as bad as last nights in M-O ... howver maybe that is just an NC perspective. You can flame all you like, but at the end of the day, you are flaming against yourselves in the long run. CCP ... the ball is in your court now ... Yourselves or the playerbase ... its your call. My previous post in this thread pretty much predicted the outcome. However, in response to this ^ post: Noone has any 'right' to their ships back. CCP have long ago made it quite clear that the server collapses under the amount of stress you guys regularly force on it. You keep doing so regardless of that fact, and when you lose your internet spaceships over it you should damned well not be getting anything back. You are the ones who are ruining the game for everyone with your super blobs. CCP are trying to keep up, but your ever increasing risk aversity makes you increase the size of your blobs every time. And don't tell me CCP made the game so that you need 400 man fleets in order to do anything. You can take down POSes with a fraction of that number. Tl;dr: Don't friggin whine about lag. You created the lag. When I play the game, it doesn't lag. You know why? Because I don't need 400 friends to fly next to me in order to fight someone.
Lasakywa Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:26:00 - [423] It's...absurd.. No one of us could reload/log back, and TS says "BoB has already sieged dreads on the gate, wtf, local is at 300, moooosly BoB"... Then NC caps dreads logs in and die 1 after the other on a gate..Okay that's probably a mistake but...WTF bob loaded the system, we couldn't, that's really crazy to play eve this way. Don't fool yourself, I don't say "Metagaming" blabla or anything...I just say, if we could have all logged in the system at the same time (BoB and NC), the fight would have been awesome instead of this piece of shitty slaughter...I don't know if BoB members would have wanted a nice fight instead of this...well this is really too bad.
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:28:00 - [424] I just wanna say how awesome Vuk Lau is! __________________________________
bitters much Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:29:00 - [425] NC is infected by the "Jita Syndrome" means: "Ahhhhh nice, CCP upgraded the node, lets call in 300 more random blues!" Sad that the only solution NC knows is: MOAR DOTS
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:32:00 - [426] i enjoy this thread it deliver lots of laughs! even though i never managed to log in to m-o after the second node crash! the firts crash i was in right after and back on gate waiting for stuff to load, after second crash i neve loaded in the 1 hour 30 mins i waitted and then had to retire due to work today!
Ur235 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:34:00 - [427] Lol if you look at every NC dread loss not one of them had their tank activated not 1! WTF ccp u fail!!
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:56:00 - [428] Originally by: Lasakywa It's...absurd.. No one of us could reload/log back, and TS says "BoB has already sieged dreads on the gate, wtf, local is at 300, moooosly BoB"... Then NC caps dreads logs in and die 1 after the other on a gate..Okay that's probably a mistake but...WTF bob loaded the system, we couldn't, that's really crazy to play eve this way. Don't fool yourself, I don't say "Metagaming" blabla or anything...I just say, if we could have all logged in the system at the same time (BoB and NC), the fight would have been awesome instead of this piece of shitty slaughter...I don't know if BoB members would have wanted a nice fight instead of this...well this is really too bad. Maybe 20 ships on the GBC side did the bulk of the damage. And you guys did have dreads logged in. You had about a dozen caps shooting at one of our phoenixes according to TS. Yet our phoenix tanked your entire fleet because your FC in his infinite wisdom didn't siege the dreads. Also, cynoing in at a gate is just sheer stupidity when you have POSes in the system. You know what happens in a node crash? You go back to the last save point, which, for most GBC pilots, was at an armed deathstar, allowing us to load the system without dying. You guys loaded onto the gate where the fight was taking place one by one, and thats how you died for the most part.
Tradena Theseus Corp	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:00:00 - [429] Originally by: Gamesguy Maybe 20 ships on the GBC side did the bulk of the damage. And you guys did have dreads logged in. You had about a dozen caps shooting at one of our phoenixes according to TS. Yet our phoenix tanked your entire fleet because your FC in his infinite wisdom didn't siege the dreads. Also, cynoing in at a gate is just sheer stupidity when you have POSes in the system. You know what happens in a node crash? You go back to the last save point, which, for most GBC pilots, was at an armed deathstar, allowing us to load the system without dying. You guys loaded onto the gate where the fight was taking place one by one, and thats how you died for the most part. Do you really think that that is how NC lose so many and BoB lose nothing ?
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:05:00 - [430] Originally by: Tradena Originally by: Gamesguy Maybe 20 ships on the GBC side did the bulk of the damage. And you guys did have dreads logged in. You had about a dozen caps shooting at one of our phoenixes according to TS. Yet our phoenix tanked your entire fleet because your FC in his infinite wisdom didn't siege the dreads. Also, cynoing in at a gate is just sheer stupidity when you have POSes in the system. You know what happens in a node crash? You go back to the last save point, which, for most GBC pilots, was at an armed deathstar, allowing us to load the system without dying. You guys loaded onto the gate where the fight was taking place one by one, and thats how you died for the most part. Do you really think that that is how NC lose so many and BoB lose nothing ? I'm ex-NC. There is no some super secret bob hax or special game knowledge. The NC FCs has a habit of making bad mistakes and then lying to their own members to cover up the fact. They did it at F-T as well.

Anna Valerios Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:41:00 - [431] Its pretty funny that if you guys failed from the beginning when you did not enter siege. That was the most pathetic thing I have seen an alliance with 100+ capitals scared to enter siege. Only when 3/4 of your capital pilots logged off was the order to enter siege given.
Exus Smoke and Fly Academy Roids'Are'Us	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:56:00 - [432] When I read all this, even if CCP did boost in some way the large fleet battles... I can't resist to say that I'm glad to fight on a small scale basis in lowsec... lag, heavy loses, devs, tinfoil hats and all that crap... I prefere to forgot that I don't play with big toys than worry about my dread loss while tryin to relog... Seriously, leave null sec :D
Damon Runyon Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:05:00 - [433] I'm not a tinfoiler - just think we were victims of the worst possible circumstances - and the more level headed GBC members realise that. Just grates a little when the less level headed ones (cf Molle's thread) rant about how this proves their uber status.
Philip Jones Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:28:00 - [434] Originally by: Anna Valerios Its pretty funny that if you guys failed from the beginning when you did not enter siege. That was the most pathetic thing I have seen an alliance with 100+ capitals scared to enter siege. Only when 3/4 of your capital pilots logged off was the order to enter siege given. You were on our TS i am guessing - so you should know we did enter siege. Then the node crashed...
Anna Valerios Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:31:00 - [435] Originally by: Philip Jones Originally by: Anna Valerios Its pretty funny that if you guys failed from the beginning when you did not enter siege. That was the most pathetic thing I have seen an alliance with 100+ capitals scared to enter siege. Only when 3/4 of your capital pilots logged off was the order to enter siege given. You were on our TS i am guessing - so you should know we did enter siege. Then the node crashed... And when it came back up you did what? I even ASKED on your teamspeak if we should be in siege your FC replied saying NO DO NOT ENTER SIEGE!
Niraco79 Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:38:00 - [436] The rifter tackling the NC FC dread was hilarious
MacLuven EL Bernays School of Strategic Communication	Posted - 2008.09.30 15:13:00 - [437] I've been reading for months about how close the fights have been between the GBC and the NC. So many times we heard out of the NC that if it wasn't for lag, or random desyncs that they would have come out the victors. CCP finally got some major lag fixes and it seems the node would have held had the numbers had been consistent with the numbers of the bygone fights of the MAX Campaign that the NC claim they would have won. So instead, the NC called in every force that is or has ever been blue to them to come to this latest fight. So that just leads me to ask the obvious question: Why, oh why, Northern Monkies, did you sabotage your best chance to finally defeat the GBC in a major capital fleet fight?
Philip Jones Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 15:26:00 - [438] Originally by: Anna Valerios Originally by: Philip Jones Originally by: Anna Valerios Its pretty funny that if you guys failed from the beginning when you did not enter siege. That was the most pathetic thing I have seen an alliance with 100+ capitals scared to enter siege. Only when 3/4 of your capital pilots logged off was the order to enter siege given. You were on our TS i am guessing - so you should know we did enter siege. Then the node crashed... And when it came back up you did what? I even ASKED on your teamspeak if we should be in siege your FC replied saying NO DO NOT ENTER SIEGE! Thats quite funny that you asked if we should enter siege - makes me wonder who you are. But whats the point of the couple dreads that are on and able to do something entering siege?
Maximillian Bayonette White Lion Manufacture and Salvage	Posted - 2008.09.30 15:33:00 - [439] Originally by: Philip Jones Thats quite funny that you asked if we should enter siege - makes me wonder who you are. But whats the point of the couple dreads that are on and able to do something entering siege? They are able to tank the few dreads the GBC have on? Or at least start dealing some major pain to the enemy, you know like the GBC did?
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 16:50:00 - [440] apart from all politics ill be really interested to read any kind of guide on how to minimize lag effects or play in those really high lag situations. part of the fight result also came from that, a good experience of heavy lag battles on gbc side, at least since start of max campaign.

thelung187 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 17:57:00 - [441] Originally by: La5eR With these node crashes due to the extreme hammering the database gets and the lack of programming methodologies, this does equate to a highly masked DDOS attack. If you think about it a DDOS attack is the flooding of a computing device(The server) in this case, through TCP/IP connectivity and/or database queries(the EVE client) in this case, with the soul purpose of creating a server shutdown. Under ISO and Federal laws in most countries a DDOS attack no matter how it is done is against the governing country's laws. By the aforementioned paragraph the only alliances capable of creating this intense load on the servers infrastructure are Goons and their pets; and BoB and their pets. Why CCP lets their servers come under this intense load is beyond me. But it looks like to me that these constant tactics do warrent some legal action against the leaders of those organizations. They know it will crash the server ergo this action must be taken place. Your parents cry at night when they think of you. [ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or s
whopper Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:04:00 - [442] Originally by: La5eR With these node crashes due to the extreme hammering the database gets and the lack of programming methodologies, this does equate to a highly masked DDOS attack. If you think about it a DDOS attack is the flooding of a computing device(The server) in this case, through TCP/IP connectivity and/or database queries(the EVE client) in this case, with the soul purpose of creating a server shutdown. Under ISO and Federal laws in most countries a DDOS attack no matter how it is done is against the governing country's laws. By the aforementioned paragraph the only alliances capable of creating this intense load on the servers infrastructure are Goons and their pets; and BoB and their pets. Why CCP lets their servers come under this intense load is beyond me. But it looks like to me that these constant tactics do warrent some legal action against the leaders of those organizations. They know it will crash the server ergo this action must be taken place. Let me guess, you life in the US, right ?
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:41:00 - [443] Originally by: whopper Let me guess, you life in the US, right ? What?
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.01 04:06:00 - [444] Originally by: whopper Let me guess, you life in the US, right ? You aint lifed till you lifed in the US baby! Life free or death hard! ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt!
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 04:12:00 - [445] Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: whopper Let me guess, you life in the US, right ? You aint lifed till you lifed in the US baby! Life free or death hard! 8/10 I lol'd My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.01 05:34:00 - [446] Originally by: Philip Jones Originally by: Anna Valerios Originally by: Philip Jones Originally by: Anna Valerios Its pretty funny that if you guys failed from the beginning when you did not enter siege. That was the most pathetic thing I have seen an alliance with 100+ capitals scared to enter siege. Only when 3/4 of your capital pilots logged off was the order to enter siege given. You were on our TS i am guessing - so you should know we did enter siege. Then the node crashed... And when it came back up you did what? I even ASKED on your teamspeak if we should be in siege your FC replied saying NO DO NOT ENTER SIEGE! Thats quite funny that you asked if we should enter siege - makes me wonder who you are. But whats the point of the couple dreads that are on and able to do something entering siege? Check the first capital kill mails. Check how many GBC dreads are on those mails. Conclude that it is the same dreads over and over again. Now look at the siege module. +625% damage.. Sooo.... Why oh why would it make a difference to siege only a few dreads that are online? Maybe because... It allows you to actually kill shit, albeit slowly! Or tank shit, like my Phoenix that tanked 10-15 of your caps for about an hour without leaving siege. Oh and @ TS spies: when I told on BoB TS that I had crashed out, you lot all rushed to primary my Phoenix character, which then got remote repped because my guys aren't morons and know how to lock a friendly cap from the scanner / friendly capital overview. Maybe, just maybe, we are simply better than you. - -
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.10.01 06:02:00 - [447] Originally by: La5eR Why CCP lets their servers come under this intense load is beyond me. But it looks like to me that these constant tactics do warrent some legal action against the leaders of those organizations. They know it will crash the server ergo this action must be taken place. I called PETA because I'm against the mistreatment of the hamsters. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.01 06:06:00 - [448] Edited by: Sir JoJo on 01/10/2008 06:08:44 Originally by: La5eR With these node crashes due to the extreme hammering the database gets and the lack of programming methodologies, this does equate to a highly masked DDOS attack. If you think about it a DDOS attack is the flooding of a computing device(The server) in this case, through TCP/IP connectivity and/or database queries(the EVE client) in this case, with the soul purpose of creating a server shutdown. Under ISO and Federal laws in most countries a DDOS attack no matter how it is done is against the governing country's laws. By the aforementioned paragraph the only alliances capable of creating this intense load on the servers infrastructure are Goons and their pets; and BoB and their pets. Why CCP lets their servers come under this intense load is beyond me. But it looks like to me that these constant tactics do warrent some legal action against the leaders of those organizations. They know it will crash the server ergo this action must be taken place. LAWL ;) so what u saying is that goons and GBC got some super power so we can lag the sevrer do death? ore u just saying that the 350-400 gbc pilots Greatet more lag then the 600+ NC and allie party? So What u basicly say is u guys cant even lag the server probaly? and u whinnig about that to! "dear Mom What can we do better, GBC are better at making lag then us and we got 200 more pilots on WHHHAAAMMMAAA" u should step back from u keyboard for a day or two ir atleast unplug it! but then u KIA
Severe Admin Blind Industries	Posted - 2008.10.01 06:07:00 - [449] OOGACHAKA OOGACHAKA i just got this feeeeeeelin that the nc are big whiners!

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