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xxShadexx Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.30 00:15:00 - [1] Enjoy :) Linky
xxShadexx Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.30 00:15:00 - [2] Enjoy :) Linky
knifee Caldari eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.30 01:14:00 - [3] erm, well... good for him i guess.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.09.30 01:24:00 - [4] It's at times like this that I think Japan might be as great as weeaboos think it is.
Havok Dryke The Scope	Posted - 2008.09.30 09:31:00 - [5] Edited by: Havok Dryke on 30/09/2008 09:31:13 Originally by: Crumplecorn It's at times like this that I think Japan might be as great as weeaboos think it is. It`s not. I`m on a 2.5 month Japanese exchange right now, and althought some things are cool, the school system (among other things) is completely FUBARed. Visiting is awesome, as they have tons of cool things to see, but you really don`t want to live there unless you`re ethnically Japanese. /2cents
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.09.30 09:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Havok Dryke The school system (among other things) is completely FUBARed. Why for so? From what I know, it dominates students' lives to an absurd degree, is that an accurate assessment?
ThaDollaGenerale The Priory	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:22:00 - [7] I live in Japan as well and yes, their lives are crushed by school as well as other extra curriculars. Kids literally have no time to be kids over here from about age 6 to when they die. After living here three years, it truthfully doesn't surprise me as to why they jump in front of trains so often.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:35:00 - [8] How comes that guy was not totally lacerated?
Havok Dryke The Scope	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:15:00 - [9] Edited by: Havok Dryke on 30/09/2008 12:18:38 Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale I live in Japan as well and yes, their lives are crushed by school as well as other extra curriculars. Kids literally have no time to be kids over here from about age 6 to when they die. After living here three years, it truthfully doesn't surprise me as to why they jump in front of trains so often. ^^This^^ With extracurricular activities (read: clubs), it`s not so much will you join a club, it`s which club will you join. I went to Badminton club, and they go at it for 3 hours every other day. 1.5h of that 3h is aerobics. Quickly switched out to Kendo, which is more relaxed. When my exchange partner mentioned he was going to get a job after he came back from his exchange, my eyes popped. If these are ever invented, they will be invented in Japan. Quote: Why for so? From what I know, it dominates students' lives to an absurd degree, is that an accurate assessment? ^^This too^^ School doesn`t dominate their lives, it -is- their lives. I`m exaggerating, but not by much. Not only do they have no lives aside from school, but insane pressure is put on them by expectations from parents and teachers, CONSTANT testing (think entrance exams, especially the University ones), and the threat of failure. Failing means failing your family, and tradition/honour (whatever you want to call it) is drilled into them from a very early age. One last point. Japanese high school students are very immature (middle school level for the boys) because they are not given much responsibility or accountability (aside from the insane school and extracurricular pressure). They cannot even get a driver`s license until 18, and their moms pack lunchboxes for them every day and wake them up every morning. I think this kind of clashes with the insane presure they face in other areas of their life and might delay their growing up to cope with that pressure. Sorry, I really didn`t mean to derail this. It`s just that living for 2 months in a small rural village with the nearest native English speaker an hour away tends to drive one insane. Hooray for internet venting.
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:18:00 - [10] ^ hmm if they improved education standards and throw a little religion into the mix, it might just be one of the best methods of population control. I find this interesting, but how many school student suicides are there? Definately something that needs to be resolved.

Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:29:00 - [11] Yeah, most of my knowledge of their school system was gleaned from anime, once you watch enough you see things which are constant throughout all of them and thus are likely based on reality, and from some wikipediaing to see if they really did spend that much time on school stuff. I'd heard about the pressure regarding failure and the low maturity level too, though I had forgotten about it. Depressing stuff tbh. Explains why mainstream animes have so much time dedicated to a bright happy school life punctuated with adventures. If I had grown up there I'd want to imagine a better version of my life too. Fortunately I didn't grow up there, I grew up here, where school takes up a good amount of time, but my only extracurricular activities were video games and computer geekery. :D
Havok Dryke The Scope	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:36:00 - [12] Edited by: Havok Dryke on 30/09/2008 12:37:14 Originally by: kor anon ^ hmm if they improved education standards and throw a little religion into the mix, it might just be one of the best methods of population control. I find this interesting, but how many school student suicides are there? Definately something that needs to be resolved. Highest in the world. Sadly I wasn@t able to find a current graph with Japan in it, but I know for a fact that the rates there are the highest. Graph shows that this is an Asia-wide problem: Chartage How does population control enter into this? Japan has no need of population control right now... The growth rate of their population is slowing and approaching ZPG a good thing, and their percentage of elderly population is rapidly increasing a bad thing. Japanese people live to an average of 81 (!) years old, the highest in the world. Japanese life expectancy and Elder Boom, 2nd paragraph down. Anyway, back to my crazy gameshows. I leave in 2 weeks! (can`t wait to get back)
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:42:00 - [13] Im not saying that the japenese gov. are using it as control. But im saying it can be changed into an effective system of control.
Havok Dryke The Scope	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:35:00 - [14] Originally by: kor anon Im not saying that the japenese gov. are using it as control. But im saying it can be changed into an effective system of control. Suicide as a population control? That`s seriously twisted. Also, Japan does not need population control. There population growth is quickly approaching zero. --- Originally by: El'tar I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:40:00 - [15] Edited by: kor anon on 30/09/2008 13:42:52 Originally by: Havok Dryke Originally by: kor anon Im not saying that the japenese gov. are using it as control. But im saying it can be changed into an effective system of control. Suicide as a population control? That`s seriously twisted. Also, Japan does not need population control. There population growth is quickly approaching zero. Holy christwagons no. Im tlking about keeping the kids trapped in endless cycles of curricular and extra curricular activities. I NEVER said they did i'm merely stating that it could be an effective form of control, one that can be used elsewhere. edit: Ah we are misunderstanding each other entirely, im refering to keeping the population obedient, ambiguous term that population control
Havok Dryke The Scope	Posted - 2008.09.30 13:56:00 - [16] Edited by: Havok Dryke on 30/09/2008 14:08:39 Edited by: Havok Dryke on 30/09/2008 13:57:43 Originally by: kor anon Edited by: kor anon on 30/09/2008 13:42:52 Originally by: Havok Dryke Originally by: kor anon Im not saying that the japenese gov. are using it as control. But im saying it can be changed into an effective system of control. Suicide as a population control? That`s seriously twisted. Also, Japan does not need population control. There population growth is quickly approaching zero. Holy christwagons no. Im tlking about keeping the kids trapped in endless cycles of curricular and extra curricular activities. I NEVER said they did i'm merely stating that it could be an effective form of control, one that can be used elsewhere. edit: Ah we are misunderstanding each other entirely, im refering to keeping the population obedient, ambiguous term that population control Heh, oh wow. I was kind of wondering there, sorry for the misunderstanding Apparently I`ve been in Japan long enough that I`ve forgotten English Anyway, yeah I actually do agree with you. If school is their lives, and curriculum is controlled by the gov... yeah there`s potential. I don`t think that the government would actually mess with the curriculum though... What I was thinking of is the fact that the education system and one`s career path is very linear in Japan. Kindergarden->Elementary->Middle School->High School->University->Job. In that order, no deviation from that path. University is not mandatory, but around 80% of students go (despite the difficulty of entrance). No taking years off, everyone studies the same thing, and your career path is heavily influenced by other`s expectations. In other systems it branches out more (again I`m referring to the Canadian system with it`s multitude of optional classes and routes though high school), and gives you more choice. My point is that this funnels most of the population into office-style jobs, which fuels Japan`s huge economy. So I guess you could make a case that the gov (and soceity) is sacrificing teenage freedom to fuel the economic engine. Keep in mind that this is all from an armchair critic though, and completely my opinion. Also, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was really confused there for a second Edit: Got your email about the novel-in-progress, sent one back with the first three chapters attached. Cheers!

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