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Grishax
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Posted - 2008.10.07 10:13:00 -
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She does not retain the memory of her death. It's wiped out with the rest of her memories of the mission.
Cloning without a POD is practically impossible, due to the fact that the snapshot of the brain needs to be taken at the exact moment of death. When in a POD, a computer assesses the integrity of the POD. If the integrity of the POD is breached, you're killed off using an injection, so the exact moment of death can be predicted. This is the reason only POD pilots can be cloned succesfully, and that is where we receive our 'God-like' status from.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.10.07 11:31:00 -
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Grishax said ôCloning without a POD is practically impossible, due to the fact that the snapshot of the brain needs to be taken at the exact moment of death.ö
ThatÆs not been true in years, only the really old cloning tech works like that. Jump clones donÆt work like that. You donÆt get killed off using an injection and you can jump back into the old body. Lots of chronicles more so in Eon then the web, suggest you can take snapshots of the mind outside a pod then if you die go back to that snapshot clone. You lose all memories since the last snapshot. But itÆs always suggested never explained clearly. There are clear caseÆs of pod pilots being killed outside pods and being cloned but loseing a weeks worth of memory. But its not explained how this happens.
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Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation
(www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Garion Avarr
Amarr
Zero Zero Traders
YTMND.
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Posted - 2008.10.07 19:01:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Pottsey
Edited by: Pottsey on 07/10/2008 06:33:13
ôIt was a unique and bothersome requirement of the Dead Man's Switch that its victim had to be made to feel as if she were dying. If they merely turned on the switch without faking Skids' death, the risk of irreversible psychosis rose by several orders of magnitude. So they loaded guns with blanks, and they faked hull breaches, and all the while they pressed little buttons and made their friend go through yet another death, to awake an earlier, cleaner self.ö
Clearly she was made to think she had died they shot her with blanks. Far more then just made to think she hit her head. She went though yet another fake death. It was like she went though a fake death, then woke up in a cloneing vat with lost memeoys since the last clone backup.
Except that the device erases all memory of this fake death. The victim must think that they are dying when it is triggered, nothing about them thinking afterwards that they had died. And if she did retain any of the memories of her 'death' afterwards, then she might also remember that her friend had shot her . . . which would be slightly awkward, to say the least.
As you say, clearly she is made to think she is dying at the moment of the triggering. There is, however, nothing to suggest that after her memories are wiped she is made to think she died (since the actual memory of 'dying' would have been wiped). Indeed, if she was made to think that, then there might be awkward questions about why she wasn't actually waking up in a clone bay, or, if she was, awkward questions from the clone techs.
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Adalore Peltier
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Posted - 2008.10.08 03:47:00 -
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Being new to the game, this is the first EVE Chronicle I have read.
Can I just say that in the same way that the game's graphics, interface, etc. hooked me on the gameplay, that this story has hooked me on EVE...the world...itself.
Two of my close friends, as well as my wife are starting up accounts too, each of them equally hooked. What got me about this story was the dynamic of the team, running a mission, interacting...I got swept up in the excitement and fantasy and imagined me and my friend's will be similar.
What an excellent story! I've already dived into the archive and found a few gems in there, but this was my first and sets the standard for all those to come.
Kudos to the author, and kudos to the artist as well. Job well done.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.08 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Grishax
She does not retain the memory of her death. It's wiped out with the rest of her memories of the mission.
Cloning without a POD is practically impossible, due to the fact that the snapshot of the brain needs to be taken at the exact moment of death. When in a POD, a computer assesses the integrity of the POD. If the integrity of the POD is breached, you're killed off using an injection, so the exact moment of death can be predicted. This is the reason only POD pilots can be cloned succesfully, and that is where we receive our 'God-like' status from.
Prime Fiction disagrees.
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Zaranya Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.10 07:31:00 -
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Wow... a slightly happy eve story... an extremely rare warm and fuzzy feeling washed over me, made even greater by the sheer lack of happy stories in EVE. Nice story, write a couple more like this.
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The Ghoster
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:43:00 -
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did i miss something by not reading the novel, but shouldn't 4 of the 5 amarr heirs should have commited suicide when Jamyl was crowned emperess?
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.10.13 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: The Ghoster
did i miss something by not reading the novel, but shouldn't 4 of the 5 amarr heirs should have commited suicide when Jamyl was crowned emperess?
Jamyl was supposed to have died that way in the sucession tournament for the emperor preceeding her but when the heirs ejected from their ships and self-destructed their pods, her corpse was missing...
Later the old emperor is assinated and Chamberlin Kasroth has an unusualy long interim rule while a new sucession tournament keeps getting delayed.
Without spoiling too much of the novel, Jamyl comes back and kicks the ass of the Elder fleet with a mystery superweapon. As a result of this "miracle" a lot of the old "formalities" are getting shuffled aside.
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Iss Mneur
Gallente
ARK-CORP
SATRAPY
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Posted - 2008.10.14 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Faraelle Brightman
Without spoiling too much of the novel, Jamyl comes back and kicks the ass of the Elder fleet with a mystery superweapon. As a result of this "miracle" a lot of the old "formalities" are getting shuffled aside.
I have not read the book, but is this the weapon that is fired by the Amarr fleet at the Minmatar Caps at about 1:30 in the Empyrean Age Trailer?
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2008.10.16 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Iss Mneur
Originally by: Faraelle Brightman
Without spoiling too much of the novel, Jamyl comes back and kicks the ass of the Elder fleet with a mystery superweapon. As a result of this "miracle" a lot of the old "formalities" are getting shuffled aside.
I have not read the book, but is this the weapon that is fired by the Amarr fleet at the Minmatar Caps at about 1:30 in the Empyrean Age Trailer?
Aye, it is. To add a little spoiler, the weapon was found near the Eve gate in New Eden system, as an ancient weapon from our ancestors, before we lost all out tech after the eve wormhole collapsed.
Usually the jove hide all these wreckage parts from the other nations, for keeping the balance between the empires and stuff, but with this one, even the jove were unable to keep the weapon away from Jamyl Sarum. Why? Because an even more powerful and more ancient lifeform than the jove gave it to Jamyl, the eve wormhole itself, being some sort of lifeform. Which now controls Jamyl Sarum as a second self.
..... fancy alien stuff eh? But that's the situation. ^^
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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CaldariAdam
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Posted - 2008.10.18 09:43:00 -
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This story is warm and twisted all at once. Great work once again.
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.10.18 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Why? Because an even more powerful and more ancient lifeform than the jove gave it to Jamyl, the eve wormhole itself, being some sort of lifeform. Which now controls Jamyl Sarum as a second self.
..... fancy alien stuff eh? But that's the situation. ^^
.....Huh?!?
That's a...different...interpriteation of what happened to Jamyl.
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Rick Roler
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:01:00 -
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Excellent story Abraxas! I particularly liked your suspense mechanism, which I coincidentally used in "The First Rule of Hashing" story I submitted to E-ON magazine 2 months ago. Not as good as yours, but I hope you get a chance to read it
Fly Safe m8.
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