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Kaylaye Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:03:00 - [1] Need some advice on a PVP fit for a geddon. How many Heavy Neuts are generally effective vs a BC size ship? Taking a geddon out for some action and was thinking 2 would be enough, having 5 Dual Heavy Pulse in the remaining slots. Is that overkill? Should I go with only 1?
Cmndr Griff Opinicus Operations	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:13:00 - [2] There was a thread on the 'geddon recently with some nice setups. A BC should be no problem in a BS, and the Armageddon is a ganky ship so I personally wouldn't want more than one heavy neutraliser but I guess if complementing a gang then you could add more and still do some nice dps from the remaining guns and heavy drones. Bring on the trumpets.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:01:00 - [3] one heavy neut does something stupid like 20-30 cap/s of neutage. Do you really need more than that? Originally by: Dheorl Originally by: Akita T yawn I never knew it was possible to stretch your ego THAT much in 1 post
Kaylaye Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.30 22:11:00 - [4] Originally by: Lance Fighter one heavy neut does something stupid like 20-30 cap/s of neutage. Do you really need more than that? That was, in fact, my question. Thanks for the Linky. Just gonna go with this, though not having a MW causes me deep pain...it just doesn't fit well. [Armageddon, LowSec] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Faint Warp Prohibitor I ECCM - Radar II Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Without the MW it's slow as hell anyway...can rig to taste I suppose. The other option is to swap out the EANM II's for ANM II's. Then drop the ECCM and fit the MW.
Zionysus	Posted - 2008.10.01 00:49:00 - [5] I prefer to fit megapulse II's, skip the neut altogether because it doesnt make a whole lot of difference in gang, and fit an offline smarty in the spare high, or a RR if thats what is goin on that day. DHP's make me a sad panda
Kaylaye Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.01 00:57:00 - [6] Originally by: Zionysus I prefer to fit megapulse II's, skip the neut altogether because it doesnt make a whole lot of difference in gang, and fit an offline smarty in the spare high, or a RR if thats what is goin on that day. DHP's make me a sad panda It only makes about 100 DPS difference, and much harder to fit. But true...every bit helps turn the tide...
Zionysus	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Kaylaye Originally by: Zionysus I prefer to fit megapulse II's, skip the neut altogether because it doesnt make a whole lot of difference in gang, and fit an offline smarty in the spare high, or a RR if thats what is goin on that day. DHP's make me a sad panda It only makes about 100 DPS difference, and much harder to fit. But true...every bit helps turn the tide... you can also overheat for longer if you're in a gang, the extra damage will probably help more than the minimal capneuting imo, especially if you're firing at scorch ranges and not within heavy neut range although that obviously depends on what you come across.
Amma Kudalkar Amarr The Freelanders	Posted - 2008.10.03 09:23:00 - [8] For solo i suggest 1 Neut as u need to gank the BC before help comes... Lasers are hot and lets heat EVE universe. Hail Amarr
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:27:00 - [9] If you can give up scorch (or simply can't use them yet), best named megapulses fit perfectly: [Armageddon, T1 Guns] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 + overheats alot longer than t2 - no scorch I wouldn't downgrade and give up scorch, but if you can't use megapulse II's you can squeeze a very nice fit on a geddon. How to Fail at Eve
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.03 13:20:00 - [10] Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 03/10/2008 13:19:58 Dont discount the heavy neut. Its a perfect anti-tackler/inty weapon. Makes the tackler lose warp disrupt on you (if its a small ship) and letting you GTFO if things SNAFU -

Kaylaye Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Rajere If you can give up scorch (or simply can't use them yet), best named megapulses fit perfectly: [Armageddon, T1 Guns] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 + overheats alot longer than t2 - no scorch I wouldn't downgrade and give up scorch, but if you can't use megapulse II's you can squeeze a very nice fit on a geddon. That is a nice setup. Might be worth giving up Scorch for a MWD. Tough call...but yeah, 9mil SP in Gunnery so I'm good with T2 :).
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:36:00 - [12] @ title: you have one utility high, that means one neut, assuming you have grid/cpu to fit it. --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Khandara Seraphim StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:43:00 - [13] [Armageddon, PVP] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Co-Processor II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Ancillary Current Router I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 It just squeezes in there but you get megapulse dps with a decent buffer, and a heavy neut to boot.
Fifi LeFume Infestation. The Church.	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:48:00 - [14] Edited by: Fifi LeFume on 03/10/2008 15:53:02 Originally by: Khandara Seraphim [Armageddon, PVP] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Co-Processor II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Ancillary Current Router I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 It just squeezes in there but you get megapulse dps with a decent buffer, and a heavy neut to boot. Co-proc + ACR makes me sad Edit: If i had t2 large pulse, i would fly this and only this :p [Armageddon, Jiggles] Large Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptive Nano Plating II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Faint Warp Prohibitor I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Cown is my idol
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.03 18:25:00 - [15] And I would come and perma-jam you with 1 amarr racial :P How to Fail at Eve
Naiary	Posted - 2008.10.03 19:30:00 - [16] don't use heavy neut if in gang. just put a martie in the 4th weapon slot and mega pulse. you want to bring damge neuting there are better ships for that. and solo well solo bs aint my fav option but a heavy neut will get those pesky intys of you.

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