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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14294
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:47:48 -
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Slow on updates here, certs are now finally gone.
The yearly summary of pilot data will soon be available for you to include/view/show-off as well. The code is there to pull it, however displaying all categories is what takes time to put together.
But it will be exciting to see who have flown the longest, made the most jumps or simply mined the most ore on a yearly basis.
/c
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
77
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Posted - 2015.04.29 21:25:03 -
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Chribba wrote:Slow on updates here, certs are now finally gone.
The yearly summary of pilot data will soon be available for you to include/view/show-off as well. The code is there to pull it, however displaying all categories is what takes time to put together.
But it will be exciting to see who have flown the longest, made the most jumps or simply mined the most ore on a yearly basis.
/c
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Kithran
117
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:15:14 -
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Is there an issue since the latest release either with people who have injected caldari technical destroyer or have it in their queue?
Eveboard correctly says I have 407 skills but now has an API error for me.
In a possibly unrelated matter Evedroid also seems to be crashing since I put the new t3d into my skillqueue.
Both apps are using different api's and both have been updated since Carnyx. |
Khanid Voltar
Third Way Retirement Corp
41
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:09:57 -
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Kithran wrote: Both apps are using different api's and both have been updated since Carnyx.
It's not the API that needs to be updated but the website/app.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14483
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Posted - 2015.06.10 20:16:29 -
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Usually the API error has nothing to do with that, if there's a skill in queue that I don't have in the DB it simply wouldn't show. API error means I received an error from CCP when requesting the data.
I will however also get around to update the database so the skill shows properly.
/c
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Kithran
117
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:17:51 -
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Khanid Voltar wrote:Kithran wrote: Both apps are using different api's and both have been updated since Carnyx.
It's not the API that needs to be updated but the website/app. Eveboard says it is an API error because the API is telling Eveboard that you have a skill injected that Eveboard has never heard of before. Therefore it cannot make sense of the API and says it is an API error. Chribba is usually pretty quick to update eveboard, but as with so many of these very useful but free applications, devtime is unpaid - I am sure he will get to it soon.
For reference I've now finished training Caldari Tactical Destroyer and moved on to something else. Refreshing the api used with Eveboard has solved the problem as has refreshing (the different) api used with Evedroid so I think I can safely say the problem was caused by have Caldari Tactical Destroyer in the skill queue specifically. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
51551
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Posted - 2015.08.29 08:46:15 -
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Just wanted to say thanks for creating this app.
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Dr Blindless
D.B. Investment Solutions Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.09.08 17:00:31 -
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Char is not updating :/ http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_Blindless
Error: Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14858
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Posted - 2015.09.09 13:56:28 -
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Reactivated
/c
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digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.09.28 04:45:13 -
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On the verge of 261 million SP, and 2 skills away to max out the gunnery tree in 2 weeks.....Well, save for doomsday since I don't want this char stuck in a titan....
Next up on the menu....Missiles, and they all get maxed on this tree, then a few more space ship command skills......Not much left on the perception / willpower attribute front basically, probably around my next birthday ( in the real world )... |
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Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
149
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Posted - 2015.09.30 07:13:53 -
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I have a question about the Compare Pilots feature. When you compare two or more pilots, it comes up with a Total Points at the bottom. How does eveboard calculate this score?
The reason I am asking is that I occasionally compare myself to other pilots close to my sp that is being sold on the character bazaar. I usually do + or - 5m sp to compare and I always seem to have the highest score. I have even compared myself to those 10 to 20m higher and I am confused why I still have a higher score than they do. I have 36m sp and I had a higher score than a 61m sp toon, so can you please explain how that is scored?
Thank you, I greatly appreciate it.
Just something about me...
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5501
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:59:04 -
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In case it hasn't already been mentioned....
CCP changes to the support website have broken the "new-style" predefined API key links, but the "old-style" still works.
https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/CreatePredefined?accessMask=59645960 |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1140
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:22:41 -
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I added a skill to my queue, when there was an hour left till completion of the previous skill. When the new skill started, my Evemon did NOT show it as 100% completed.
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LordOdysseus
Skyfang Inc.
296
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Posted - 2015.11.13 02:27:43 -
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Chribba, I have a suggestion(if this has not been discussed before). There is this Global Rankings on EVEBoard,right? It shows many statistics on who has the most of what(skillwise mostly). How about adding the statistic about who has the most unallocated skillpoints in a descending order? I think it is as similar as the idea of having "who has the most ISK" statistic. What do you think about this?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15071
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Posted - 2015.11.13 07:03:42 -
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LordOdysseus wrote:Chribba, I have a suggestion(if this has not been discussed before). There is this Global Rankings on EVEBoard,right? It shows many statistics on who has the most of what(skillwise mostly). How about adding the statistic about who has the most unallocated skillpoints in a descending order? I think it is as similar as the idea of having "who has the most ISK" statistic. What do you think about this? I have the data and will try add the toplist asap
/c
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
18
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:30:11 -
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Greetings all,
Chribba, since the introduction of the new skills "Command Destroyers" and "Logistics Frigates" last week, my board ranks page has shown that I have 1 level 2 skill and 1 level 3 skill, with the rest trained to level 4 or 5. I have added the two new skills but have trained each just to level 2, with the intent of holding them there (and collecting other new skills at L2) until I can figure out how to bring a batch of new level 2 skills through level 3 with as little impact on my overall rank as possible.
The lone level 3 in the data is, of course, currently crushing my overall rank - is it possible to correct this?
Also, and I know this has come up in the past but I don't think it has been talked about lately, has there been any further thought on changing the L4 and L3 rank categories to be cumulative rather than mutually exclusive, i.e., the Level 3 rank would become number of skills that are L3 or higher and L4 rank number of skills that are L4 or higher?
Thanks, as always, for your efforts in maintaining this outstanding resource! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15099
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Posted - 2015.12.15 06:23:29 -
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I have yet to update the database for the new skills so that is most likely why your rank got kicked a bit. I've not yet thought about that type of "grouping".
What's the benefit of grouping them by level and rank together? There would be a lot of grouping then I think, especially if you are going to do 5 groups per rank.
Lv1-5 @ Rank1 Lv1-5 @ Rank2 and so on?
/c
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1180
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Posted - 2015.12.15 07:12:17 -
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I could be totally wrong about what he is asking, but: I don't think he means the skill rank, I think he means the EB ranking of "number of skills at level 3"
For instance, I currently have 44 skills at level 3. My ranking is in the 10,000 range for that stat. If I train a couple skills to level 4, my ranking will go backwards for that stat, but it may also go backwards on EB overall. So a better trained character may have a worse ranking.
Again, I could be interpreting his question wrong, but I observed my own character going backwards in ranking. Since all I was doing was pumping up level 3's to level 4, I deduced that was the issue. At one point, I think I had a years worth of skills that I pushed to level 4.
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Khanid Voltar
S.A.S
58
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Posted - 2015.12.15 12:31:08 -
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imo the eveboard global ranking sucks (altho endless love ofc for the /c man)
It has created perverse disincentives to complete skills to increase global ranking.
I get that it was done this way so that a newcomer could have as high a chance of increasing global ranking as a vet but as time has gone on and you see people skilling specifically to increase global ranking rather than to actually complete more skills you have to wonder what the point of it is at all.
@ Raven I believe the optimal level to have your skills at (in terms of global ranking) is half way between 4 & 5, there is a discussion somewhere in this thread where someone gives the formula and explains how it is done.
Personally I try to think about the global rank as little as possible!
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Khanid Voltar
S.A.S
58
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Posted - 2015.12.15 12:49:29 -
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Chribba I have been meaning to ask if there is a way now to show number of ships with Mastery Level 5 on eveboard?
I know Evemon now has Masteries (I know that is nothing to do with you) but does that mean that they are on the API now, or have the Evemon team possibly done something internally to include such metrics (in which case don't worry) ?
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
89
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Posted - 2015.12.15 19:57:40 -
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What Towaoc is asking for is to change 2 ranks.
Change the "number skills at level 3" to "number of skill at level 3 and higher. and the same for "number of skills at level 4" to "number of skill at level 4 and higher.
The reasoning for this is so you don't get penalised in the global ranking for having a low number of skills at level 3 or 4 or none at all at which point you get a penalty score for having a no data rank.
However doing the above will basically duplicate the total number of skills rank. My self for example:- number of skills at level 3+ = 410 , number of skills at level 4+ = 410 same as total number of skills.
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
18
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Posted - 2015.12.16 04:27:32 -
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Raven and Amateratsu are on to what I'm saying.
It's a complex issue, hard to approach in this venue, but put simply, the current methodology penalizes characters who have advanced most or all skills to Level 4 and Level 5.
The error in my character's data illustrates the adverse impact of the current methodology of assigning mutually exclusive Level 3, 4 and 5 ranks in arriving at overall rank:
Level 5 skills: 224, rank: 200 Level 4 skills: 185, rank: 53 Level 3 skills: 1, rank: 70,344 (other stuff) Overall rank: 57
Current methodology with corrected data:
Level 5 skills: 224, rank: 200 Level 4 skills: 185, rank: 53 Level 3 skills: 0, rank: approximately 1,750 (eveboard imputed value for a null category) (other stuff) Overall rank: 1 (sorry, somebody has to be here...)
Revised methodology with cumulative L3 and L4 ranks:
Level 5 skllls: 224, rank: 200 Level 4 or higher: 409, rank: probably top 20 Level 3 or higher: 409, rank: probably top 20 (other stuff) Overall rank: 1
Overlook, for a moment, my shameless plug to remain #1, and focus on the adverse impact that a low Level 3 skill total has on overall rank. With many characters reaching the "all skills trained to Level 4 or higher" level (see separate thread on the subject), now may be the time to revise the ranking methodology to better recognize those achievements.
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Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
18
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Posted - 2015.12.16 04:52:42 -
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Khanid Voltar wrote: ......It has created perverse disincentives to partially complete skills in order to increase global ranking.
Guilty as charged. I implemented this tactic several years ago as part of a strategy to ascend to #1 in global ranking. It worked. I imagine others have done the same. But hey, having all of the skills i needed for what I do in the game already, why not? How about a +1 for being clever??
More seriously, the proposal above would negate this tactic, helping to restore the true spirit of the eveboard rank - that being to showcase characters that have achieved an advanced level of training in a broad and balanced set of skills.
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Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
213
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Posted - 2015.12.16 07:38:39 -
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I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be...
Just something about me...
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1181
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Posted - 2015.12.16 17:39:37 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be...
Your ranking score is based on a cumulative average of the 36 skill ranks at the top of your rank page. You may have a more rounded character than some of those that you compare to. For instance, someone that is hard focused in PvP only may have great stats in those areas, but they might have 2 skills in Science trained to level 1. That would make the Science category stat pretty bad, and affect their over all average.
^ As mentioned above, 1 or 2 skills in a particular category can take that stat to a ranking of 70, 80, 90,000 over all.
It's very much possible to have a better rank than a player who is much older than you are.
Obviously, skills that help you play the actual game are most important. Playing with the EB ranks is something I think the older players have done when they had everything the wanted in game.
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voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
402
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Posted - 2015.12.16 21:36:08 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be... Your ranking score is based on a cumulative average of the 36 skill ranks at the top of your rank page. You may have a more rounded character than some of those that you compare to. For instance, someone that is hard focused in PvP only may have great stats in those areas, but they might have 2 skills in Science trained to level 1. That would make the Science category stat pretty bad, and affect their over all average. ^ As mentioned above, 1 or 2 skills in a particular category can take that stat to a ranking of 70, 80, 90,000 over all. It's very much possible to have a better rank than a player who is much older than you are. Obviously, skills that help you play the actual game are most important. Playing with the EB ranks is something I think the older players have done when they had everything the wanted in game.
That does go a long way to explaining something that I had noticed. That there were players with 10 - 20 mill SP less than me that were ranked higher than me and I couldn't see any obvious reason why that was the case. I wasn't bothered enough to post and ask about it but it's good to know. Cheers :) |
Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
214
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Posted - 2015.12.17 06:42:25 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:I wonder if that is close to the question I had about the skill ranking when you compare two pilots? I always seem to have a higher score than others, even those up to 10-15m sp more than me...not intentional of course. I was just wondering how that score came to be... Your ranking score is based on a cumulative average of the 36 skill ranks at the top of your rank page. You may have a more rounded character than some of those that you compare to. For instance, someone that is hard focused in PvP only may have great stats in those areas, but they might have 2 skills in Science trained to level 1. That would make the Science category stat pretty bad, and affect their over all average. ^ As mentioned above, 1 or 2 skills in a particular category can take that stat to a ranking of 70, 80, 90,000 over all. It's very much possible to have a better rank than a player who is much older than you are. Obviously, skills that help you play the actual game are most important. Playing with the EB ranks is something I think the older players have done when they had everything they wanted in game. Thank you for explaining that. As I was comparing myself to those within my sp range (just passed 41m sp) that were for sale on the character bazaar, I was floored on how much was being paid for them but I had a 'higher score' overall. Now that makes complete sense since I have spent the last 15 months filling in all the holes I had when I went pure tank/cap and had no offense.
Just something about me...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15101
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Posted - 2015.12.17 09:11:03 -
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Khanid Voltar wrote:Chribba I have been meaning to ask if there is a way now to show number of ships with Mastery Level 5 on eveboard (or even for each level eg # @ l1, # @ l2, # @ l3 etc) ?
I know Evemon now has Masteries (I know that is nothing to do with you) but does that mean that they are on the API now, or have the Evemon team possibly done something internally in order to be able to include such metrics (in which case don't worry about it) ? I will look into seeing if I can show that somehow.
/c
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15101
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Posted - 2015.12.17 09:15:35 -
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I think I understand what you're all saying about the ranks now yeah. And I agree with you guys that the overall and such is pretty sucky, as well as me being a bit lost on a really good way to get an overall rank.
Perhaps I should try and make the ranks more of % of the max you can have in a group and use those values. As that also would be more dynamic I think than pure number of skills at a level.
The default "null" value is always problematic as it can have a big impact on things, and to the clever people gaming the eb ranks... I feel honored actually haha that you're playing the eb-game!
But in the end yes I need to look over the rankings.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1184
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:48:37 -
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"Sucky" is not a word that has ever crossed my mind.
It is what it is, and I game it, accept my place in it, appreciate it.
Cool Fun Helpful Free Entertainment
Those are the words that come to mind
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