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Sinistra Diablos
Gallente Sogdian Traders Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:18:00 -
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My drones are set as follows:
Aggressive Focus Fire Attack and follow
But they don't. They go where ever they want, no longer attacking in a group like they used to a while back (in other words, they now split upfor no reason at all). This isn't a major issue as I monitor my drones and tell them where I want them, but it's a bit annoying when your trying to managed a spawn and your dumb ass drones no longer stay grouped together and attack whatever they want to attack.
My question is, when did CCP mess drones up? and why (other than to annoy us drone users)?
Sin
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Paramite Pies
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:20:00 -
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My drones were working fine a minute ago, but before today they stopped focusing. I don't know why, but I think now and then they stop working the way you want them to. __________________ Yes, my other ride is a Slog. |
Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:25:00 -
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Thats drones
Drones have never worked properly.
Ever.
That is the joy of drones. Its like setting a pack of hounds loose;you have only limited control.
Drones are lovely and agrivating in equal measure.
Just don't get attached to them personally.
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Modern Error
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Modern Error on 30/09/2008 21:27:17
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Thats drones
Drones have never worked properly.
Ever.
That is the joy of drones. Its like setting a pack of hounds loose;you have only limited control.
Drones are lovely and agrivating in equal measure.
Just don't get attached to them personally.
but Shiney, and Rusty, and Pointy, and Slopoke and Slave are my FRIENDS! ME
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2008.09.30 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Modern Error Edited by: Modern Error on 30/09/2008 21:27:17
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Thats drones
Drones have never worked properly.
Ever.
That is the joy of drones. Its like setting a pack of hounds loose;you have only limited control.
Drones are lovely and agrivating in equal measure.
Just don't get attached to them personally.
but Shiney, and Rusty, and Pointy, and Slopoke and Slave are my FRIENDS! ME
Rudolph the red nosed hammerhead?
You are getting a bit disney on us.
Remember, Bing sings, but Walt disney ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------ |
umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.09.30 22:18:00 -
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Weighted Companion Drones?
They should give them out to alliance tournament entrants
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SharpMango
14th Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.30 22:28:00 -
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I'd be careful of your drones if i were you. They sound dangerously close to going rogue.
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2008.09.30 23:08:00 -
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Well I didn't touch them.
There is a defect on them not focus firing when you attack a target when they are in the process of choosing a new target. Basically some of them might be distracted by your action while other happily "follow the leader".
Their target calling is a lot more sensible now though, their choises are based type of target ships before npcs and signature radius of targets (small drones go for small targets) and distance. Actually I'd probably be better of having my drones choose my targets for me.
If you're seeing any drastic changes in drone behaviour please defect it then, we spent some time whipping them into shape and I'd hate to see them regress. _______________ |
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Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.30 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford Well I didn't touch them.
There is a defect on them not focus firing when you attack a target when they are in the process of choosing a new target. Basically some of them might be distracted by your action while other happily "follow the leader".
Their target calling is a lot more sensible now though, their choises are based type of target ships before npcs and signature radius of targets (small drones go for small targets) and distance. Actually I'd probably be better of having my drones choose my targets for me.
If you're seeing any drastic changes in drone behaviour please defect it then, we spent some time whipping them into shape and I'd hate to see them regress.
Is there a way to turn off this ****** behaviour i know what i want to shoot and they go and shoot the wrong stuff all the time.
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2008.09.30 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Tuxford on 30/09/2008 23:12:28
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: CCP Tuxford Well I didn't touch them.
There is a defect on them not focus firing when you attack a target when they are in the process of choosing a new target. Basically some of them might be distracted by your action while other happily "follow the leader".
Their target calling is a lot more sensible now though, their choises are based type of target ships before npcs and signature radius of targets (small drones go for small targets) and distance. Actually I'd probably be better of having my drones choose my targets for me.
If you're seeing any drastic changes in drone behaviour please defect it then, we spent some time whipping them into shape and I'd hate to see them regress.
Is there a way to turn off this ****** behaviour i know what i want to shoot and they go and shoot the wrong stuff all the time.
Yeah you can put them to passive then they always just attack what you specifically ask them to.
Hint: if you didn't know you can also bind All Drones: Engage All Drones: Return and Orbit and All Drones: Return to Bay
to a hot key, I've kind of gotten into the habit of binding them to ctrl-1, ctrl-2 and ctrl-3 respectively but you might want to unbind ctrl-q if you do _______________ |
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.30 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford to a hot key, I've kind of gotten into the habit of binding them to ctrl-1, ctrl-2 and ctrl-3 respectively but you might want to unbind ctrl-q if you do
Wait... people play this game with ctrl-q still bound to "quit game"? That's literally the first thing I do when I install EVE. ---
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2008.09.30 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: CCP Tuxford to a hot key, I've kind of gotten into the habit of binding them to ctrl-1, ctrl-2 and ctrl-3 respectively but you might want to unbind ctrl-q if you do
Wait... people play this game with ctrl-q still bound to "quit game"? That's literally the first thing I do when I install EVE.
I don't know, I've never really had problems with accidentally hitting it although I never actually use it to kill the client. I did have a rather unpleasant experience though when I was messing around drone shortcuts and the client died. It was one of those what-the-****-did-I-do moments. _______________ |
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.01 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: CCP Tuxford to a hot key, I've kind of gotten into the habit of binding them to ctrl-1, ctrl-2 and ctrl-3 respectively but you might want to unbind ctrl-q if you do
Wait... people play this game with ctrl-q still bound to "quit game"? That's literally the first thing I do when I install EVE.
I never use my CTRL button in combination with any key that is even NEAR Q, so I don't have a need to unbind it
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Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.01 00:35:00 -
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I did notice that they got smart and actually obeyed commands.But then a new patch hit and apparently they reintroduced female DNA back into the drones.
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
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Posted - 2008.10.01 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Farrqua I did notice that they got smart and actually obeyed commands.But then a new patch hit and apparently they reintroduced female DNA back into the drones.
My Tech-II Acolytes resent that comment.
:BTW:
Has anyone had problems with their drones randomly abandoning you? ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.10.01 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gloria Stitz That is the joy of drones. Its like setting a pack of hounds loose
More like a "pride of cats", actually... _
SHOPS || Mission rewards revamp || better nanofix
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Paskis Robinson
Cube Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.01 03:12:00 -
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Try leading a gang someday. Your drones will look clever and obedient after that..
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.10.01 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Paskis Robinson Try leading a gang someday. Your drones will look clever and obedient after that..
Word..
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Alex V0X2
Minmatar Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.01 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Paskis Robinson Try leading a gang someday. Your drones will look clever and obedient after that..
Big word
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI
Originally by: Farrqua
Has anyone had problems with their drones randomly abandoning you?
quite a bit, actually... I've put it down to lag, but it is quite annoying when you discover 3 have accidently decided to seek better pastures elsewhere...
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:04:00 -
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Mine got screwed by the patch before last. Almost completely uncontrollable now. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:05:00 -
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Oh, and Tux:
Thanks for making drones more intelligent in their 'who should I kill next' decision.
I was very tired of watching them hare off, trying to kill that BS orbiting at 55kms when there were scramblers already on me.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 01/10/2008 07:10:44
Originally by: CCP Tuxford Well I didn't touch them.
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Their target calling is a lot more sensible now though, their choises are based type of target ships before npcs and signature radius of targets (small drones go for small targets) and distance.
Hmmm. 'small drones go for small targets'. Not that I've seen.
Before the 1.1 patch they seemed to go for whatever class of target you last sent them - which I liked. Since 1.1 though my T2 Hornets seem to go for battleships
I know that you did a lot of work when you introduced the new options (and I was very grateful) but ISTM that since patch 1.1 they've gone a bit 'daft in the head' -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI
Originally by: Farrqua I did notice that they got smart and actually obeyed commands.But then a new patch hit and apparently they reintroduced female DNA back into the drones.
My Tech-II Acolytes resent that comment.
:BTW:
Has anyone had problems with their drones randomly abandoning you?
Once or twice since patch 1.1, yeah. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Nirtulys
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford ..Actually I'd probably be better of having my drones choose my targets for me..
I second that.
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Lucas Avignon
Avignon Associates Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.01 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford Edited by: CCP Tuxford on 30/09/2008 23:12:28
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: CCP Tuxford Well I didn't touch them.
There is a defect on them not focus firing when you attack a target when they are in the process of choosing a new target. Basically some of them might be distracted by your action while other happily "follow the leader".
Their target calling is a lot more sensible now though, their choises are based type of target ships before npcs and signature radius of targets (small drones go for small targets) and distance. Actually I'd probably be better of having my drones choose my targets for me.
If you're seeing any drastic changes in drone behaviour please defect it then, we spent some time whipping them into shape and I'd hate to see them regress.
Is there a way to turn off this ****** behaviour i know what i want to shoot and they go and shoot the wrong stuff all the time.
Yeah you can put them to passive then they always just attack what you specifically ask them to.
Hint: if you didn't know you can also bind All Drones: Engage All Drones: Return and Orbit and All Drones: Return to Bay
to a hot key, I've kind of gotten into the habit of binding them to ctrl-1, ctrl-2 and ctrl-3 respectively but you might want to unbind ctrl-q if you do
Yeah ctrl + 1/2/3 works great o/\o
Oh and just enable the warning for ctrl q so you have to click ok first.
One problem with drones though since Empyrian age was deployed is, if you recall drones and directly log out, I've noticed that they don't go back in their folder.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Yeah, and while we're at it we can create a controlled environment around account hacking and credit card fraud and all the other EULA breaches..
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.10.01 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Gloria Stitz That is the joy of drones. Its like setting a pack of hounds loose
More like a "pride of cats", actually...
Nah, a "troop of monkeys" imo. And, to be specific as to the kind of monkey, they are like a cross between the flying monkeys from the Wizard of OZ and that one "haha internet movie monkey" that scratches his butt, sniffs his finger, then falls off the branch.
So... a troop of "crazy, flying, butt scratching, finger sniffing" monkeys. That is how I think of my drones.
They also remind me of that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Kindergarten Cop. Mainly the point where he's got all these little kids around him and he's doing the, Oh God my head gesture and this cute kid says, "Maybe you have a brain tumor".
So, whenever my drones act up I yell in my best Arny voice, "IT'S NOT A TOOMAH!" and then mutter something about monkeys.
And... Oh, Hai! Tuxford. Good to see you out and about on the forums.
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Jarod Hawke
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.01 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford Well I didn't touch them.
There is a defect on them not focus firing when you attack a target when they are in the process of choosing a new target. Basically some of them might be distracted by your action while other happily "follow the leader".
Their target calling is a lot more sensible now though, their choises are based type of target ships before npcs and signature radius of targets (small drones go for small targets) and distance. Actually I'd probably be better of having my drones choose my targets for me.
If you're seeing any drastic changes in drone behaviour please defect it then, we spent some time whipping them into shape and I'd hate to see them regress.
You mean aside from the fact that drones still get left behind and do not dock because they do not turn off their mwd??? Something that has been a defect since forever and I've reported since forever?!! And yes, no damage on the drones..
Focus fire has never worked for me... They completely randomly split up and take different targets... Nothing I do in selecting behaviour has any effect whatever.
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Loc Maythan
Gallente AlfaCorp
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Posted - 2008.10.01 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Loc Maythan on 01/10/2008 10:02:04
Originally by: Solomon XI Has anyone had problems with their drones randomly abandoning you?
Had this one a couple of times one evening a few days ago. I was lucky enough to spot the problem just before I activated an accelerator gate the first time, and was actively checking for the problem the second time it happened. As mentioned in another post, I did seem to be getting a lot of lag that evening - I believe Pandemic Legion were boxing in the Caldari militia that evening and everything was lagging.
Drones seem as itinerant to me as ever, tbh. Focus fire is a nice option in principle, but it is not reliable enough for me to depend on it. I also find drone target selection questionable at times. I wouldn't depend on it in situations were there are triggers around - I'll chose when the triggers are attacked, thank you very much ;-) In most situations for me, reducing drone flight time is the most important factor, and I will manually set drones on the next closest target to them - it is annoying when drones destroy a ship 30km one side of you, then fly 60km to attack the same class of ship 30km the other side of you when there was a different class of ship only 10km away from the original ship.
I would also like to see the opposite of abandon drones. I seem to have many more DCs these days than I used to (though some of these can be traced to the wireless router I have to use occasionally), and it is annoying to have to fly to my drones to scoop them, assuming they actually survive the TLC given out by the NPCs. Maybe, if someone has the available bandwidth, they could target a drone and establish a link with it. This would reduce the DC frustration, and would also make it easier for others to scoop up abandoned drones, making space tidier for everyone ;-)
Loc.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.10.01 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 01/10/2008 10:04:52 Did anyone notice how sentry drones, if you let them fire on a target long enough, just decide to go on strike / get bored and stop firing (scoop->redeploy makes them start again)? Is that a feature, or bugged?
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