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Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:48:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote: The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. No, let's not do that. Didn't we learn a lesson from all this mess? |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
632
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Posted - 2012.03.30 00:49:00 -
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Zoltar wrote:At first I thought Goon tears are best tears, but now I duno. Test tears are pretty damn sweet as well.
Botter tears > Goonie tears > Testie tears
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:06:00 -
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So let me get this straight OP... He didn't act in the same way you did when you were depressed, therefore he is lying? You really don't see any tremendous gaps in your reasoning there?
Was he wrong for writing about his depression? Yes, but nothing he did was against the EULA.
Was The Mittani wrong for doing what he did at fanfest? Yes, and unfortunately what he did was very much against the EULA.
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Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:16:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I'm sorry. What you say is wrong. What Mitt did was use a public broadcast to advocate the commision of a felony, which in itself is a felony. What CCP did was provide him the unsupervised means to do this, which makes them culpable. This avalanche of posts, in which yours is also a snowflake, asserting it had to do with anything in-game only demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the societies in which you live.
This one. |
Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:18:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:if you listen to the interview on eve radio with the wis most of what the OP said is correct. ololol
What the victim says or does doesn't have anything to do with what Mittiani DID DO, which in fact was a felony and as far as I'm concerned he needs to go to jail where he belongs. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
616
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:24:00 -
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oh damn a guy from reddit calling me disgusting i hear TEST's home site has gone almost a full month without a child **** subreddit so I guess they must be feeling pretty self-righteous these days. |
Raiykjab
Federal Navy Academy
17
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:32:00 -
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Damn This game is really full of jackass like OP. It's not a matter of "did the Wis lie or not". It's a matter of should you take the risk to see if it is a lie or not.
Next time open a ticket saying that someone said they'd suicide, it's logged. 1 hour later the cops will go knock at their door to check on them.
Don't jock with suicides, just don't. And CCP didn't have any other choice than do what they did, it's a company and people there still need to work for a normal living.
Grow up guys! Eve has miners?! |
Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
85
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:41:00 -
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I dont even know who to believe at this point...
Bottom line is: while using depression as a shield against attacks in an internet spaceship game is a cheap trick, it's nowhere near as bad as publicly humiliating a depressed person. From personal experience I can tell you that much less than that is enough to trigger / worsen an episode of depression which can be dangerous on many levels.
It really isn't something to be ****** with.
As for OP saying that depressed people keep it to themselves... That just isn't true. Many people talk about suicide or at least their depression before they actually attempt to kill themselves.
Even if you don't have any reason to think someone is depressed, is it worth it to humiliate them like that? Doing that is like throwing peanut butter at people you dont know. Most of them will be fine, not a scratch on them, while that one person with a severe peanut allergy will collapse. Probably shouldn't use that comparison since I dont know anything about allergies but yeah. Depressed people can't just move on after something like that. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
64
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:49:00 -
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We're supposed to take your word for all this, right?
Oh, and Mittanit's word.
So Test has declared war on this guy's corp, right?
In case you're actually telling the truth about your own status, I'm sorry you have to deal with those problems. But you can't expect anything you or Goons say about this issue to be taken as anything more than whining.
Mittani knew better than to do what he did at fanfest. You should know better than to do what you're doing now.
The Wis is not the one who made the statements. It's not up to the crowd or the game's fans to figure out whether or not he was telling the truth. The point of the rules is that you don't hold somebody up to public ridicule as Mittani did. None of the other issues make a difference. Mittani was the head of CSM at the time he did this really stupid thing. Mittani brought this eve mail and this player out of obscurity to ridicule him publicly. Mental illness has nothing to do with the wrong that was committed. This would have been just as wrong without any of the other talk.
You guys are completely incapable of admitting Mittani's error or your own. Too bad for you. He had a higher standard of behavior to meet than an ordinary player because he was head of the CSM. He failed to meet it. He deserves the punishment, he has said so himself.
To claim the Wis was manipulating anybody is ridiculous. He sent his eve mail to one source and it got forwarded over and over again because you and your kind found it delicious. He is not responsible for making it public. Mittani is.
I hope you get better from your problems. I won't say anything else except that you need to face facts here. You are in fact blaming the person who is really blameless.
But be assured you and your super alliance can wreak your in-game vengeance on him now. |
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:26:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:And for those talking about goon pets or equating me with the goons. **** the goons. I hate em. I hate their treatment of test. I hate their hippocracy in stating that all members of the CFC are equal while at the same time treating us as nothing more than pets. I hate their double standards regarding their handling of usage of their space. I hate the way their diplos will outright lie to their allies. The way they have manipulated markets in fountain during deployments to favor their market assholes and industrials while screwing TEST members. **** the goons.
This is about one ******* who used the threat of suicide to try and get his way, and the public lynching of the one man with enough balls to put that ******* in his place. The Wis deserved it. And he deserves much worse. The Mittani, regardless of the fact that he's a bastard and a complete *******, did not.
aww, don't get mad sweet cheeks. eye luvs you. let's go find a nice quiet wormhole and make some space babies. does everyone in test feel the same way as you do? why the hell does test put up with their bollocks then? are test cap pilots that bad in their shinies? give me a nice system and i'll build you a sexy supercap, okay, sugar boogar? don't get mad, baby, get fockin' even. test isn't short for testicle, is it? if not, then all you in test better fricking grow some and kick the goonies arses, baby. shag me baby <3 L L cool j sang it " I needs love" you need my love baby. get nekked now becuz you are goon sheep. |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
321
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:53:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. I'm not going to read the whole thread, I'm just going to address your OP.
In my 19 years in a hospital I've carried enough people to the morgue from suicide (10 - 15+?) along with several hundred others that I never joke about Suicidal Ideation, attempts or major depression.
Whether *YOU* or *THE WIS* suffer from depression or not is irrelevant.
What The Mittani did was over the line.
Period. Full stop.
I read his apology and accepted it.
I can believe that "Alex G" was sorry for what he did. Because of who he is *in game* and what his corp/alliance/cadre/group whatever have become known for and the reputation *they* cultivate in game and out contributed to the reaction he got.
Are people using this to "score points"? I would bet yes.
Does that change him going over the line?
Not one iota.
If you are depressed, get help.
Don't get so wrapped up in the game that you come to the defense of the indefensible...
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:54:00 -
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Off topic but someone needs to make a Downfall meme....quick! We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
418
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:23:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Off topic but someone needs to make a Downfall meme....quick!
im thinking more along the lines of a leave Britney alone video. I have more space likes than you.-á |
Sekket
White-Noise
13
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:31:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:What do you mean "you people" ??????
What do you mean "you people?" - CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE |
Naj Panora
Azerick Holdings The Paganism Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:35:00 -
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Cellestielle wrote:Naj Panora wrote:Cellestielle wrote:The actions of the EVE community and CCP around this whole entire series of events disgusts me. For almost a year now I have been struggling with Severe Major Clinical Depression. I have stuggled with contemplations of suicide and self harm. And to see all of you whiteknighting an individual who used suicide as a means of manipulating people disgusts me. The Wis is not a person with depression, he was not a truly suicidal person, he used a threat of suicide to try to make the people ganking him leave him alone.
The mittani's crime in this? Mocking him for lying about comitting suicide to manipulate people. I support the mittani in this. The wis deserves to be mocked and harassed mercilessly for being such a complete ******* as to mock those who are truly suffering from depression and struggling with suicide by using the threat of suicide for social manipulation. And the fact that CCP and all of you are bashing the mittani and supporting this pathetic tool is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This man is 47 years old, if he was actually suffering from depression, and if this game even has the potential to add to that depression then he shouldn't ******* be playing it. Him even mentioning suicide to try and get people to not gank him is ******* disgusting and utterly pathetic. And so are all of you. You all disgust me. And you know his personal life how? Mitten's crime is harassment which is a crime. So don't go off shooting off your mouth. DEATH TO THE GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because he gave that information in the eve mail sent to the goons and in repeated posts on the forums. And a GOON has never lied? Hmmmm we should tell the world goons are honest |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1125
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Posted - 2012.04.02 15:05:00 -
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Ranting is not allowed on our forums.
Thread locked. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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