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FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.01 00:16:00 - [1] I am currently training up one of my accounts for exploration, since I foresee a time when endless mission running will cease to be exciting for PvE. I see that there are Virtue implants on the market. Are they worth it if one is a professional explorer? ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:30:00 - [2] Edited by: Akita T on 01/10/2008 01:36:12 Of course they're worth it... the question however is "how long until they pay off". Answer : depends on a lot of things. Just imagine how much your probes cost on average per hour of use (insignificant), look at the average probe cost reduction due to implants (quite small), realize you'd have to be scanning for (literally) years before they are financially justified (assuming you never find anything). But you do find stuff every now and then, don't you ? I mean, why else would you bother scanning, right ? If you find something, assuming you keep on scanning afterwards (and not just complete the mission and go to bed or somesuch), depending on how long on average you spend scanning as opposed to completing the site, and especially depending on how much cash you get off a site on average... you could say you are making some decent returns on those implants. One could also argue they give you an edge over competing scanners, but let's face it, how many times have you ever lost a site to another explorer ? And how many of those would you have been able to get to and exploit first if you only had those implants ? I bet there aren't many, but you never know. Well, if that happens often (or at least sometimes), then you can figure the cash you make there as payback towards the value of the virtue implants too. All of that assumes you don't get popped meanwhile and other such things _ SHOPS \|\| Mission rewards revamp \|\| better nanofix
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.01 02:17:00 - [3] I'm not sure I asked the question properly. Will a set of Virtue implants make exploration a less tedious process? And, if yes, how much? Is doing exploration with a full set of Virtues and Poteque 5% hardwirings a much nicer experience? I don't really care if I ever make more ISK because I have them, but I do care if they make exploration something I am more likely to enjoy and stick with. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.01 05:42:00 - [4] That's a question only you can have an answer for... does it matter to you if it only takes ~23 minutes (or whatever) instead of around half an hour to scout out some signal ? If yes, then they're worth it. If no, no. That's all they do in the end. Reduce the time you need to find a signal. Nothing more, nothing less. _ SHOPS \|\| Mission rewards revamp \|\| better nanofix
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:46:00 - [5] Thanks, Akita. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.01 11:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Akita T That's a question only you can have an answer for... does it matter to you if it only takes ~23 minutes (or whatever) instead of around half an hour to scout out some signal ? If yes, then they're worth it. If no, no. Well, from an enjoyment-only perspective I imagine that's a no-brainer. While sitting around waiting for something to happen might be a necessary part of something that's enjoyable, I very much doubt that anybody would call it the enjoyable part. The question then is "what other implants might I be using instead, that would be arguably more useful?" And if you're training up a pure exploration alt .. quite probably none. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Elias Ryker	Posted - 2008.10.01 11:42:00 - [7] From an isk-earning perspective i would say no, they aint worth it, but if you consider the realtime you save with having to wait less time for a find i say yes, go for them, especially if you have an account dedicated to exploration.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.01 12:06:00 - [8] Edited by: FT Diomedes on 01/10/2008 12:06:07 Originally by: Elias Ryker From an isk-earning perspective i would say no, they aint worth it, but if you consider the realtime you save with having to wait less time for a find i say yes, go for them, especially if you have an account dedicated to exploration. Well, if it really saves a significant amount of real time, then it does earn me more ISK - even if I have to play for a long time to earn that ISK back. From the sounds of it, it does save a considerable amount of time (23 minutes vs. 30 minutes is considerable in my mind). So, I think I'll probably plug a set in to one of my clones. The idea is to have one clone in highsec with +5s for training during the week, and another in 0.0 with Virtues for exploration on the weekends. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.08 00:48:00 - [9] One thing I have noticed with these implants is that they are rather specialized - that makes them a very hard item to sell. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Gorki Andropov FKL Combine	Posted - 2008.10.08 10:11:00 - [10] Just thought you might like to know before making the purchase, I bought the set a few days ago...really, the difference its made is - for me - phenomenal. I'd say it's shaved off at least five minutes scanning time from each site. ----------------------------------------------- "I have not problem with prostitute, but the kiddy dools is to much for me" - Orcan

KingCappo Seigers of Doom	Posted - 2008.10.08 15:38:00 - [11] The only issue that I see with these implants is that (AFAIK) only the low-grade sets are available. So you are stuck with only +2 to attributes, losing out on increased training that you get from a +3 or +4 set.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.08 20:40:00 - [12] Originally by: KingCappo The only issue that I see with these implants is that (AFAIK) only the low-grade sets are available. So you are stuck with only +2 to attributes, losing out on increased training that you get from a +3 or +4 set. Yeah, I saw that. My plan is to have one clone in high sec with +5s and one in 0.0 with Virtues. When I have the time to explore a lot, I can clone jump down. I already do this for my characters when I PvP, it's not that much of a hassle. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Srioghal moDhream	Posted - 2008.10.08 20:44:00 - [13] Originally by: FT Diomedes Originally by: KingCappo The only issue that I see with these implants is that (AFAIK) only the low-grade sets are available. So you are stuck with only +2 to attributes, losing out on increased training that you get from a +3 or +4 set. Yeah, I saw that. My plan is to have one clone in high sec with +5s and one in 0.0 with Virtues. When I have the time to explore a lot, I can clone jump down. I already do this for my characters when I PvP, it's not that much of a hassle. Why are the virtues in 0.0? they cost about 5x what +5's do.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.08 21:22:00 - [14] For the same reason that my dreadnought is in 0.0 - that's where the Virtues are most useful. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Srioghal moDhream	Posted - 2008.10.09 15:55:00 - [15] Originally by: FT Diomedes For the same reason that my dreadnought is in 0.0 Virtues cannot go into high sec?
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.09 17:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Srioghal moDhream Originally by: FT Diomedes For the same reason that my dreadnought is in 0.0 Virtues cannot go into high sec? No, of course they can go into high sec. I just said that 0.0 is where they are most useful. Poking around empire looking for exploration sites does not seem like a very lucrative or rewarding practice (sort of akin to sitting in Empire mining veldspar in a dreadnought). If I am wrong about that, please correct me. To the best of my understanding, 0.0 exploration is much better - and that justifies the extra expense to make it a faster and more enjoyable experience. If you think high sec exploration is a worthwhile project to pursue, I'm definitely interested in learning more about it. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome. Selling Virtue implants - convo me if interested.
Ishamel 1 Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.09 18:00:00 - [17] I don't use them simply because i would end up getting podded.

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