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ZephyrLexx Caldari Earth Federation Space Forces	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:03:00 - [1] i've searched the forum, and even manually went back about 45 pages looking for a solid PvP raven setup that people can agree upon, and i've checked battleclinic too but I just can't find one. so I would like it very much if someone could post a nice basic cookie cutter PvP raven build for me here, nothing special just a typical PvP raven setup for 0.0 space in a gang / fleet, thanks
Gartel Reiman Civis Romanus Sum	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:23:00 - [2] A large Blackbird is the Scorpion, surely? Cookie cutter Raven would be: 6 x siege launchers 2 x utility highs (heavy neut, LRAR, smartbomb, offlined heatsinks depending on situation and fitting skills) Quad Lif MWD Point Web LSE 2 x Invuln 3 x BCS 2 x PDS 3 x CDFE rigs That's a pretty standard baseline to start with and you can add bits here and there depending on your situation (e.g. more buffer/a target painter if you don't need tackle gear).
ZephyrLexx Caldari Earth Federation Space Forces	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:42:00 - [3] Originally by: Gartel Reiman A large Blackbird is the Scorpion, surely? Cookie cutter Raven would be: 6 x siege launchers 2 x utility highs (heavy neut, LRAR, smartbomb, offlined heatsinks depending on situation and fitting skills) Quad Lif MWD Point Web LSE 2 x Invuln 3 x BCS 2 x PDS 3 x CDFE rigs That's a pretty standard baseline to start with and you can add bits here and there depending on your situation (e.g. more buffer/a target painter if you don't need tackle gear). thanks for the quick reply, you're going to have to flesh out those names a bit though for me, not up to speed with all the abbreviations yet :3
Cyrus Mierre The Forsaken Legion	Posted - 2008.10.02 15:21:00 - [4] Originally by: ZephyrLexx Originally by: Gartel Reiman A large Blackbird is the Scorpion, surely? Cookie cutter Raven would be: 6 x siege launchers 2 x utility highs (heavy neut, LRAR, smartbomb, offlined heatsinks depending on situation and fitting skills) Quad Lif MWD Point Web LSE 2 x Invuln 3 x BCS 2 x PDS 3 x CDFE rigs That's a pretty standard baseline to start with and you can add bits here and there depending on your situation (e.g. more buffer/a target painter if you don't need tackle gear). thanks for the quick reply, you're going to have to flesh out those names a bit though for me, not up to speed with all the abbreviations yet :3 Siege launchers = battleship-sized missile launchers Heavy neut = Heavy Energy Neutralizer LRAR = Large remote armor repairer Quad LiF MWD = battleship microwarp drive point = a warp disruptor (rather than a warp scrambler, in this case) web = stasis webifier LSE = large shield extender invuln = invulnerability field (a shield-based resistance module) BCS = ballistic control unit (often called bal. control system) PDS = power diagnostic system CDFE = Core defence field extender by the by, you will be needing drones in there somewhere - maximum damage for the Raven would be 2 heavy drones (eg. Ogre I), 2 medium drones (eg. Hammerhead I) and one light drone (eg. hobgoblin I) As for the two spare high slots, I would very much recommend a heavy neut as one of them. Save it for ships smaller than yourself ideally, or even better use it to kill the capacitor of very tiny fast ships, so they're no longer fast =P Cyrus
Car Wars Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.02 15:49:00 - [5] Edited by: Car Wars on 02/10/2008 15:50:50 Originally by: Gartel Reiman A large Blackbird is the Scorpion, surely? Cookie cutter Raven would be: 6 x siege launchers 2 x utility highs (heavy neut, LRAR, smartbomb, offlined heatsinks depending on situation and fitting skills) Quad Lif MWD Point Web LSE 2 x Invuln 3 x BCS 2 x PDS 3 x CDFE rigs That's a pretty standard baseline to start with and you can add bits here and there depending on your situation (e.g. more buffer/a target painter if you don't need tackle gear). Nice setup but consider dropping the point and the web for added tank or a target painter. Point and web should not be needed in a battleship in gang and fleet. EDIT: sorry you already suggested that, too quick to reply
Megan Maynard Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing	Posted - 2008.10.02 15:50:00 - [6] Def need a target painter in a raven. Or some target painting drones.
ZephyrLexx Caldari Earth Federation Space Forces	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:19:00 - [7] Edited by: ZephyrLexx on 02/10/2008 16:23:31 [Raven, PVP Raven] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Warp Disruptor II Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Medium EMP Smartbomb II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I looking for a PVP Raven setup too. is this the setup then which is good? with this I have 946/840 CPU and 14992/12568 Powergrid, don't think i'm severely lacking in skills for that so how do I get enough cpu/grid? even with max V skills character it won't fit, so obviously some things I shouldn't have up there etc.
ZephyrLexx Caldari Earth Federation Space Forces	Posted - 2008.10.02 19:14:00 - [8] Originally by: ZephyrLexx Edited by: ZephyrLexx on 02/10/2008 16:23:31 [Raven, PVP Raven] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Warp Disruptor II Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Medium EMP Smartbomb II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I looking for a PVP Raven setup too. is this the setup then which is good? with this I have 946/840 CPU and 14992/12568 Powergrid, don't think i'm severely lacking in skills for that so how do I get enough cpu/grid? even with max V skills character it won't fit, so obviously some things I shouldn't have up there etc. anyone?
Saietor Blackgreen The First Foundation	Posted - 2008.10.02 19:39:00 - [9] Edited by: Saietor Blackgreen on 02/10/2008 19:39:26 Originally by: ZephyrLexx [Raven, PVP Raven] 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II You wont fit all T2. You got the idea - torpedoes (preferrably T2 for extra range if needed, if you got skills), MWD, passive tank (no shield booster). Target painter is a useful addition, web and disruptor are less necessary than the rest above (if you are in gang with tacklers). Utility slots - fit whatever fits. Play wit this to fit it with the least compromise with your skills. Thats it. --- Redesign local/scanner feature - make the place huge, dark and scary again!
Danirus	Posted - 2008.10.03 03:22:00 - [10] Edited by: Danirus on 03/10/2008 03:29:12 6x Cruise II 2x Large Smartbombs (anti drone) 3x Sensor Booster II (Scan Resolution Scripts) 2x Webbers (I personally use True Sansha's for 18km web range) 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II (or True Sansha) 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 1x Ballistic Control 3x Trimarks 5x EC-600 This is a beast against nano ships, or simply anything smaller than BS's. Double web and relatively quick lock time = a sure kill.

arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.03 03:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Danirus Edited by: Danirus on 03/10/2008 03:29:12 6x Cruise II 2x Large Smartbombs (anti drone) 3x Sensor Booster II (Scan Resolution Scripts) 2x Webbers (I personally use True Sansha's for 18km web range) 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II (or True Sansha) 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 1x Ballistic Control 3x Trimarks 5x EC-600 This is a beast against nano ships, or simply anything smaller than BS's. Double web and relatively quick lock time = a sure kill. You might want to concider dropping one smartbomb for a heavy neut, if you time it correctly, it should keep most nanoships from using mwd after two rounds of neuting. In that case, you might as well swap to only one webber (wich makes the ship cheaper to lose). Also, if you can get your hands on a hg slave set, ditch the eanm in favor of a second bcu maybe. And, most important, fit a mwd!!! *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
Danirus	Posted - 2008.10.03 03:42:00 - [12] I used to fit MWD's on my Ravens, problem is they are still way too slow and burn alot cap, Only time i ever used it was to approach a gate, however it's just as easy to warp to a belt then 0km from gate. So really a MWD on a Raven is not that important.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.03 04:22:00 - [13] In the grand order of fitting on any frontline combat ship, you'll find you HAVE to make compromises. Often, the cookie cutter fit takes the compromises into account (see the nano vagabond and it's use of 220mm vulcans). For the most part, there is a fundamental order of things when considering downgrades. Tackle - the first thing that can go on most ships. Tacklers are often plentiful (afterall, it's all the newest pilots can offer and many people dedicate millions of SP to this task in all it's incarnations) Tank - Tank won't ever win a battle for you - it just delays losing. Mobility - Mobility, and the ability to dictate (or at least contest) control of the battlespace and tempo of a fight is critical. Gank - EWAR, tank, tackle and mobility don't win a battle. At the end of the day steel on target wins battles. NEVER sacrifice gank if you can avoid it. In short, on a battleship, the ultimate incarnation of the gank/spank theory of PVP, you should have a VERY good reason if you are considering downgrading your guns (or removing one) or having anything less than 3 damage mods.
ThaDollaGenerale The Priory	Posted - 2008.10.03 04:59:00 - [14] Quote: thanks for the quick reply, you're going to have to flesh out those names a bit though for me, not up to speed with all the abbreviations yet :3 If you need help on figuring out the abbreviations for a PVP Battleship setup, then you're not ready to fly said PVP battleship.
velmistr Ecco Caldari InNova Tech Inc Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.03 06:19:00 - [15] Edited by: velmistr Ecco on 03/10/2008 06:21:29 Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale If you need help on figuring out the abbreviations for a PVP Battleship setup, then you're not ready to fly said PVP battleship. On the other hand it will help him to concentrate on the right skills before he actually sits in the raven. Quote: Weirdtopia > i need help in eve Bloodspoon > ...you installed eve? Weirdtopia > ya 14 day trial Bloodspoon > did you unistall WoW Weirdtopia > no Bloodspoon > then i can't help ya
Srioghal moDhream	Posted - 2008.10.03 16:57:00 - [16] [Raven, pvp] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Invulnerability Field II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Large EMP Smartbomb I Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Core Defence Field Extender I Berserker SW-900 x1 Berserker TP-900 x1 Vespa EC-600 x2 Hornet EC-300 x1 This is as cookie cutter as I can make it. As for the drones you can do whatever you like but this is how I roll, lol. Fitting is tight, but with torps it always will be. But with this setup I am at 900.95/901.25 13559.2/13656.25. The SB is obviously offline, used as a heatsink. I only use two range rigs as the cpu is unbearable with 3 and the extra 10km of range is needed imo.
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.03 19:58:00 - [17] cookie cutter torp raven: [Raven, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Target Painter II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 You can throw something else offline in the extra high slot, change out drones/whatev
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.10.03 20:52:00 - [18] Edited by: Haradgrim on 03/10/2008 20:54:05 6 x Cruise launchers (faction or t2) 2 x offline mods for overheating 2 x sensor booster II w/ scan reso loaded, lock range in cargo 1 x web II 1 x warp disrupter II 1 x best named heavy cap booster w/ 800s 1 x t2 or faction 100mn MWD 1 x DCU II 1 x TS EANM 3 x BCU II 3 x polys 5 x hammerhead II 5 x light ECM anything that you can switch out for faction will help, expecially the web. +5% velocity is good too, as are snakes...

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