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Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.10.03 04:36:00 - [1] To start, here's what we're looking for: LOTS of pvp. Preferably 0.0 An alliance who is established in their current home. We're tired of being kicked out because people can't defend their home system Decent ratting would be nice so we don't need to leave to make isk, but it's not a requirement Preferably not the drone regions, but for now, we'll look into any options We prefer a lot of small to medium gangs. Being involved in fleet battles is fine, but we need the option to have small to medium gangs as well. Information about us: We are 100% PVP. We have no miners, no industrialists. All we want to do is kill people One thing people need to know is that we are considerably small right now. However, part of the reason we are looking for a new alliance is to have a firm backing to help us expand our corp. We are not interested in joining alliances and merging with other corps. We have all played together for quite a while and have invested a lot into our corp, we will not drop it. Most of us have played for at least a year, mostly 2 years or more. We fly almost everything between all of us, just no capitals....yet. 100% US timezone, all mature players, 18+ Leave a comment here or evemail/convo me in game and I'll get back to you.
Zikka Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.03 07:46:00 - [2] How small is considerably small? If you are too small I won't be able to offer you a space in the alliance - but we still might be able to work something out to give you a chance to grow in 0.0. Check out our recruitment thread here and get in touch if interested.
Kal'Kalagan Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.03 07:51:00 - [3] I wouldn't recruit them to be honest, sort of people that don't turn up for ops, don't have any Fc's and if they do they didn't work with the alliance. Not an independant corp they just want to roll with an organised group and let everyone else do the work. Could have had the curtsy to leave Veritas before slating it in their recruitment posts. On the bottom of the kill stats for the only full month they were in Veritas and seem to be alliance hopers, leaving Cosmic when it was under pressure from Pandemic Legion and now leaving Veritas when the going gets tough. Top corp!
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.10.03 07:57:00 - [4] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan I wouldn't recruit them to be honest, sort of people that don't turn up for ops, don't have any Fc's and if they do they didn't work with the alliance. Not an independant corp they just want to roll with an organised group and let everyone else do the work. Could have had the curtsy to leave Veritas before slating it in their recruitment posts. On the bottom of the kill stats for the only full month they were in Veritas and seem to be alliance hopers, leaving Cosmic when it was under pressure from Pandemic Legion and now leaving Veritas when the going gets tough. Top corp! We do run in ops, we do have FC's, and we will happily work with an organized and properly run alliance. We left Cosmic Anomalies because we didn't feel we had a future with them and didn't agree with the way they functioned, and we're leaving Veritas for the same reasons. Think what you want, but you're wrong about everything. We are 100% independent and I'm irritated you seem to think you know anything about us when you're completely wrong. Zikka, thank you for your reply, I'll contact you soon.
Jack Sparroxx	Posted - 2008.10.03 08:21:00 - [5] Well. I would have concerns about recuiting this corp, they may be different today. But I can tell how it worked out for them in cosmic anomalies(CAN),they where in CAN for over a month I belive. They never took in any fleet, alliance ops and such that I know of(and I'm a fairly active pvp'er). In the intire time they did not manage to get on a single kill so that should speak volumes. http://cosmic-anomalies.org/killboard/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=462&view=corp_kills And when we got under preasure from PL, CAN leadership basicly told them to step up and help or get out. Well they got out allright, they changed sides to Veritas Immortalis, which at that point allready was set red to CAN. So if any one take s them in be aware of bad track record of jumping ship and possibly joining you enemy. OH.. did I mention the only place place I saw Ideal machine was in YVA ratting and mining, and that CAN popped their ratting and mining tower a couple of days after ideal machine left CAN to join our enemies.
Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.03 08:52:00 - [6] Sounded interesting but after reading comments, I think I will pass
Kal'Kalagan Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.03 09:05:00 - [7] Edited by: Kal''Kalagan on 03/10/2008 09:05:22 Posted by Daemon Ix - Veritas Forums Quote: guess who is being kicked as soon as im back in game.. Bye bye and good ridance.
Jack Sparroxx	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:02:00 - [8] good for you guys. Ideal Machine is basicly a bunch of turncoats and is looking for others to provide protection while they can go rat and what not. So VI.. happy hunting, more target to shote at. easy kills to rack up on you KB. If you can find them that is. But my guess is that they will be hidding in empire.
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:55:00 - [9] Edited by: Lazarann on 03/10/2008 15:57:10 Originally by: Jack Sparroxx Well. I would have concerns about recuiting this corp, they may be different today. But I can tell how it worked out for them in cosmic anomalies(CAN),they where in CAN for over a month I belive. They never took in any fleet, alliance ops and such that I know of(and I'm a fairly active pvp'er). In the intire time they did not manage to get on a single kill so that should speak volumes. http://cosmic-anomalies.org/killboard/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=462&view=corp_kills And when we got under preasure from PL, CAN leadership basicly told them to step up and help or get out. Well they got out allright, they changed sides to Veritas Immortalis, which at that point allready was set red to CAN. So if any one take s them in be aware of bad track record of jumping ship and possibly joining you enemy. OH.. did I mention the only place place I saw Ideal machine was in YVA ratting and mining, and that CAN popped their ratting and mining tower a couple of days after ideal machine left CAN to join our enemies. CAN never had ops during the times we were on so we did our own. It's not our fault CAN had so many blues that we couldn't find any decent targets. That was one of the reasons we left. We also don't jump ship to the enemy, at the time we joined Veritas, we happened to be moving to a different area and discovered they lived there, so we figured we would try to join them. Also, aside from the POS a couple of our members put up, we DO NOT mine. EVER. Nor do we hide in empire. You can spread slander about us all you want, but the truth is, both of your alliances were too dysfunctional and falling apart and we left because we realized that. We're looking for stability and competence and neither of you were able to offer that to us. To anyone else who happens to read this thread, don't be discouraged by what a couple of failed alliances say about us. Talk to me in person before you judge us, don't make your decision on the badmouthing of a couple of people.
Kal'Kalagan Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.10.03 16:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Lazarann To anyone else who happens to read this thread, don't be discouraged by what a couple of failed alliances say about us. Talk to me in person before you judge us, don't make your decision on the badmouthing of a couple of people. Instead of leaving when an alliance is not working 100% the way it should be why not try and correct the issue. Why not turn up for ops, provide FC's to the alliance, instead of running your own ops (for which there is very little evidence) why not include your alliance mates in these ops and help get gangs going. Why not make your corp get on ts and set an example. No.. things may not have been going great in either case but you did nothing to help the situation you only made matters worse by disapearing and doing your own thing and when two poeple from difference alliances who are red to each otehr tell everyone that your recruitment speech is a pile of pooh and that your corp is worthless then I hope for damn sure they pay attention. Regards. Kal.

Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine	Posted - 2008.10.03 16:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Originally by: Lazarann To anyone else who happens to read this thread, don't be discouraged by what a couple of failed alliances say about us. Talk to me in person before you judge us, don't make your decision on the badmouthing of a couple of people. Instead of leaving when an alliance is not working 100% the way it should be why not try and correct the issue. Why not turn up for ops, provide FC's to the alliance, instead of running your own ops (for which there is very little evidence) why not include your alliance mates in these ops and help get gangs going. Why not make your corp get on ts and set an example. No.. things may not have been going great in either case but you did nothing to help the situation you only made matters worse by disapearing and doing your own thing and when two poeple from difference alliances who are red to each otehr tell everyone that your recruitment speech is a pile of pooh and that your corp is worthless then I hope for damn sure they pay attention. Regards. Kal. We've tried to include people in the ops we've run, and everytime we've asked if anyone wanted to join us, we were answered with complete silence. TWICE did people actually speak up and join us. Using Veritas as an example since you're so interested in my post...your alliance shows over 478 members. Let's figure for your sake that half are either alts or inactive. The most I've ever seen around at once was close to 40. And you say that we're the inactive or unhelpful ones? You might want to look at the rest of your alliance before you start pointing fingers. We'd love to help you guys not be station camped all day long by nano gangs, but since no one ever seemed interested in fighting, there wasn't a whole lot we could do by ourselves. We will ALWAYS try to help out whatever alliance we are in, and you saying otherwise is complete bullshit. Just because no one else from either of your alliances said "boo" when we asked if anyone wanted to join us doesn't mean we're the inactive ones. Quite the opposite.

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