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destiny2	Posted - 2008.10.03 09:32:00 - [1] So i decided im gonna make a basic raven for level 3s instead of useing the one i have now High slots x3 Crusie launchers x2 Heavy launchers t2 x1 energy neutralizer t2 Med slots x1 Invulfield t2 x3 large shield extenders t2 x1 shield recharger t2 Low Slots x3 shield flux coil t2 x1 shield power relays t2 x1 Power diagnostic system t2 drones x5 medium scout drones t2 Its not the greatest for putting together but it does the job in a level 3 comments are welcome too
Lider Maximo	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:24:00 - [2] omg, no BCUs, neuts for missions, you better try to nano it too
Connner Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:56:00 - [3] Edited by: Connner on 03/10/2008 11:01:19 Edited by: Connner on 03/10/2008 10:57:30 If you're using a Raven for lv3 missions, you can pretty much fit it with whatever junk you happen to already have in your hold. I used my raven for a lv3 once and about fell asleep slowboating to one of the gates. The rats barely even dented my shields. However I will say, if you're using it for missions, ditch the invuln fields for mission spacific shields, their cheaper and more effective. invuln fields are really only worth it for pvp. Also the neuts are really pointless against NPC's. I'd use 6 cruise launchers in the highs, put 3 bcu's in the lows 4 and 2 pdu's, 4 rat spacific hardners in the mids an x-large extender and a large shield booster. Thats what I use and it works pretty well
Tanith YarnDemon	Posted - 2008.10.03 13:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Lider Maximo omg, no BCUs, neuts for missions, you better try to nano it too This is probably the most serious, least trollish post in the thread so far. Raven is among the best level 3 mission runners there is. Just need a few modifications from the cookie cutter level 4 version. [Raven, New Setup 3] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Overdrive Injector System II 100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Would be a decent example
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.10.03 13:48:00 - [5] [Raven, lvl 3 missions] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Flux Coil II Shield Flux Coil II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Recharger II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II [empty high slot] 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Lider Maximo	Posted - 2008.10.03 14:22:00 - [6] Originally by: destiny2 So i decided im gonna make a basic raven for level 3s instead of useing the one i have now Then you give him a T2 raven fit, by the time he has the skills for all those he will do L4's for breakfast. AND a passive CNR setup, lol. Honestly, for L3's a Drake is more than adequate. But if you MUST use a raven, don't mix weapon systems (as per your original post), just go for 6 cruise launchers you can afford, 2 mids for hardeners (active ones), 1 shield boost amp, 1 shield booster (medium should be enough), 2 cap rechargers (my personal preference, might not be optimal, but when I mission I like to be able to permarun the reppers). In the lows, 2 or 3 BCU's and the rest engineering stuff (like cap power relays, they gimp your shield boosting, but you should have enough tank anyway)
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.10.03 14:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Lider Maximo Originally by: destiny2 So i decided im gonna make a basic raven for level 3s instead of useing the one i have now Then you give him a T2 raven fit, by the time he has the skills for all those he will do L4's for breakfast. AND a passive CNR setup, lol. read my post again, and think about it... its no CNR =P --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Lider Maximo	Posted - 2008.10.03 14:28:00 - [8] Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson [Raven, lvl 3 missions] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Flux Coil II Shield Flux Coil II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Recharger II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II [empty high slot] 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I I see 7 missile hardpoints
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.10.03 14:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Lider Maximo Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson [Raven, lvl 3 missions] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Flux Coil II Shield Flux Coil II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Recharger II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II [empty high slot] 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I I see 7 missile hardpoints CNR has 5 lowslots... its a drake genious, didnt notice the HEAVY launchers??? sheesh.. had to ruin it, didnt you? --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Lider Maximo	Posted - 2008.10.03 14:38:00 - [10] yea, just noticed that :D it was a scam setup

Tanith YarnDemon	Posted - 2008.10.03 15:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Lider Maximo Originally by: destiny2 So i decided im gonna make a basic raven for level 3s instead of useing the one i have now Then you give him a T2 raven fit, by the time he has the skills for all those he will do L4's for breakfast. AND a passive CNR setup, lol. Honestly, for L3's a Drake is more than adequate. But if you MUST use a raven, don't mix weapon systems (as per your original post), just go for 6 cruise launchers you can afford, 2 mids for hardeners (active ones), 1 shield boost amp, 1 shield booster (medium should be enough), 2 cap rechargers (my personal preference, might not be optimal, but when I mission I like to be able to permarun the reppers). In the lows, 2 or 3 BCU's and the rest engineering stuff (like cap power relays, they gimp your shield boosting, but you should have enough tank anyway) A few suprising truths. 1. Raven is less skillintensive than a drake for similiar results. 2. Drake is in no way a steppingboard for better ships to do missions in, raven is. 3. All modules mentioned so far in the post have tech 1 counterparts that are BETTER than the modules mentioned, with the possible exception of launchers. 4. Battlecruisers would not rank themselves below Battleships on a skillpath-tree, it would be parallell to it. 5. Builds are of course subjective and they fit different playing styles. Your setup uses as much as 8-9 slots for it, which is among the highest so far in the thread.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.10.03 18:23:00 - [12] Originally by: destiny2 So i decided im gonna make a basic raven for level 3s instead of useing the one i have now High slots x3 Crusie launchers x2 Heavy launchers t2 x1 energy neutralizer t2 Med slots x1 Invulfield t2 x3 large shield extenders t2 x1 shield recharger t2 Low Slots x3 shield flux coil t2 x1 shield power relays t2 x1 Power diagnostic system t2 drones x5 medium scout drones t2 Its not the greatest for putting together but it does the job in a level 3 comments are welcome too I like your style. Can you make me a lvl 2 Abbadon Setup please? The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch..
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.03 18:46:00 - [13] I hate to be the sort of guy who says "you're doing it wrong" but I think that's all there is to say. First, look at the Raven and compare it to the other supreme Caldari mission ship the Drake. You'll find that the Drake's advantage is essentially the ability to build one of the sturdiest tanks in the game with an incredibly small investment in SP and isk, that also requires no thought or management in mission. The Drake's weapon systems are cruiser sized, making them idealy suited to killing cruisers, battle cruisers and at lest well suited to killing frigates. In other words, the Drake's weapons are perfect for the rats you find in a level 3 mission. Then look at the Raven. You find that in exchange for the nearly impossible to crack passive tank you gain fully flexible damage types (you don't lose damage when you switch ammo types for the various rats), greater DPS in general, and a sufficient active tank. Unfortunately, the weapons in question are generally inferior to the Drake's when it comes to dealing with frigates/destroyers which make up the bulk of level 3 mission targets. So, if you're going to use a Raven, why do you insist on not capitalizing upon the one thing that makes it better than the drake? You have absolutely no exucse to NOT load up on damage mods, especially when tackling level 3's (I use 4 BCS on my level 4 raven and the tank is sufficient using T2 gear - I can only assume a pilot with less SP in the task could easily do the same on the Level 3 missions where damage output is substantially lower). Don't try to passive tank the raven- it's neither necessary or effecient. The bog standard XL booster + amp + 4 hardners produces a fantastically powerful tank and leaves you with all those low slots free for things to better hurt people with. If fitting is a concern, a level 3 mission requires no more than a Large SB anyway, saving you a tremendous amount of grid/cpu. If you're going to use a raven for level 3's I'd do it like this; High: 6 Cruise Missile (II's if possible, best you can afford otherwise) Mid: Large Shield Booster Shield Booster Amp 4 Rat Specific Hardners -or- 3 Rat Specific Hardners + TP Low 3 - 4 Ballistic Control Systems 1 - 2 Power Diagnostic Systems Rigs: None OR CCC Drones: 5 Light Thermal 5 Medium Thermal Basically, all you have to do is grab aggo, launch drones at the closest frigate and then proceed to pop cruisers. In general, by the time you're out of cruisers/bc targets the frigates will be taken care of, and if not you can help the drones mop those up with the cruise launchers.
Amarrbone	Posted - 2008.10.03 18:52:00 - [14] Edited by: Amarrbone on 03/10/2008 18:53:34 Geezus... BAD fits for L3's Highs: 6x HEAVIES!! L3's rarely have BS spawns and cruises are a waste on most of it. 2x Whatever Mids: 1 Lif AB 1 Large Boosters 1 Boost Amp 1 Passive EM 1 Invul Active 1 Cap Recharger Lows: 3-4 BCU's 1-2 Cap Flux Rigs: None of 3 CCC's if you will move to L4's in this thing Drones: 5 Mediums 5 Lights I preferred Vespa/Hornet since you will see a lot of Guri Pirate missions. This is an Omnitank setup that you should really never have to change and EM is your only resist that needs tweaking for L3's.
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.03 19:01:00 - [15] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 03/10/2008 19:02:08 If you're fitting less than 4 BCUs and 2-3 TPs to your Raven for a level 3 you're doing it wrong. -Liang --
destiny2	Posted - 2008.10.03 22:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon Originally by: Lider Maximo omg, no BCUs, neuts for missions, you better try to nano it too This is probably the most serious, least trollish post in the thread so far. Raven is among the best level 3 mission runners there is. Just need a few modifications from the cookie cutter level 4 version. [Raven, New Setup 3] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Overdrive Injector System II 100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Would be a decent example All the crap i fitted on it was just crap i had laying around in my items i could fit it better if i wanted too but the NPCS in angel extraveganza couldnt even knock my shields out
achoura	Posted - 2008.10.03 23:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 03/10/2008 19:02:08 If you're fitting less than 4 BCUs and 2-3 TPs to your Raven for a level 3 you're doing it wrong. -Liang More interested in how he's going to overcome the gate restrictions tbh. *The EVE servers and their patches*
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.03 23:08:00 - [18] Originally by: achoura More interested in how he's going to overcome the gate restrictions tbh. Hmmm, I didn't realize that there were gate restrictions on L3s... and IIRC there's alot more lvl 1/2/3 missions that aren't in deadspace. Uh, it has been a while since I ran a lvl3 though. But yeah, that's a good question. ;-) -Liang --
Amarrbone	Posted - 2008.10.04 03:01:00 - [19] L1's, Highsec complexes that show up on the map, some low level L2's are the only ones I've ever come across

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