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Tar getinu	Posted - 2008.10.09 12:25:00 - [91] Looking forward to it - keep up the good work - your keeping me interested in the game and my wife loves you guys for it! (something about "at least he is out of the way whilst he is playing it")
EyeCeeYou	Posted - 2008.10.09 15:17:00 - [92] For most MMOs, reliant on action, I'd agree that something like WiS would be a waste. In EVE, I'm not so sure ... I've not been playing long, but I've already met a sizable number of folks who don't fly. They sit around and trade and train. Oh, and socialize. That's a particularly relevant activity in this game given that it has the most complex economy of any MMO, bar none. So, I think WiS could be a real boon. Especially if they're able to create games or other past times that could be pursued by folks who are hanging out in the bars, watching their orders, etc. If done right, I think WiS could be a real draw for folks who otherwise wouldn't be too terribly interested in EVE ...
Gerard Deneth Caldari Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.10.09 19:19:00 - [93] Originally by: Davan Sarn I feel like, if SWG can successfully implement portalized objects, and allow players to view space from the windows of ships, CCP can probably do something similar to EVE. But I don't know what kind of technical limitations they're working against. Aye... if not a full panoramic window, perhaps some large screens in a bar or docking lounge... Figure you'd have them set in specific directions, mainly looking right out at the undock point and have it feed data like it's a fixed cam... Perhaps implement it as an invisibile ship or empty parked just at the edge of the station? Given that stations don't move, it should be possible to hardcode such things... ---------------------------- The Game's always changing under your feet; don't start moaning when you get a toe caught in the gears.
Vandrieas Katsalas	Posted - 2008.10.10 07:30:00 - [94] I am also looking forward to this feature. Mostly for the potential it has in the future. I think personal combat will be added in the future. Once we're walking about and interacting, I think demand for personal combat will be too strong to ignore. Add to this atmospheric flight, ground vehicles and you will have complete Sci-Fi environment to interact with. I think that CCP is taking an evolutionary apporch to this new direction. First walking, then running, then fighting. It has been said that this is happening because of the Whitewolf/CCP MMO, well if it is so what! It's a matter of synergy. Developing systems for one game that can be used in another lowers development costs and efficiently utilize resources. As long as the user base of both games benefit, where is the harm in that?
Astria Tiphareth Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.10.10 08:57:00 - [95] Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 10/10/2008 09:04:19 Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 10/10/2008 09:00:41 Originally by: Gerome Doutrande Originally by: Brigsby5987 it will make eve more popular. Why is that? Considering the number of times this issue has been talked to death at length, not merely by fans but by dev interviews and independent reviews, I'll merely state that I'm glad that CCP is the group making the design decisions, not the whiners on the forums. It's pretty obvious as to how it makes EVE more popular - a large segment of the MMO community at large cannot and does not wish to identify with some spaceship that gets blown up in the space of a few hours. They identify with their character. Ambulation enables greater identification, CCP gets more subscribers, CCP gets more money, CCP hires more people, CCP improves EVEs hardware and design so much more than they could have done before. Of course there are a lot of bored veterans who don't actually play the game any more, sit on forums complaining, for whom EVE is their niche game from when it had 1000 subscribers and really it should only be them and their two friends playing it... Thankfully CCP isn't so selfish or stupid. Originally by: Mass Extinction Firstly, I dont have a low fps. Secondly, it makes no sense making the requirements to play the game higher as most people arent gamer geeks with no life. I couldn't stop laughing. By definition, to the rest of the non-gaming world, anyone playing EVE is a gamer geek with no life. Try walking into a real life bar and saying 'hey, I run a corporation in EVE' and see how far you get. Sheesh. Originally by: Ishina Fel It's funny to see how the introduction of a social feature in EVE brings out the absolute creme de la creme in *****s from the community. The amount of intentional ignorance here is staggering. Amusing isn't it - and people wonder why EVE's community (particularly the forums) is sometimes slammed for being unhelpful, rude, unpleasant, and anti-social, in a game supposedly designed around being vaguely social. To quote one player 'why should I post anything on the forums, it's a cesspool of rude inept nerds'. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties...* Environmental Effects
quave Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.10.10 11:09:00 - [96] Originally by: Astria Tiphareth Considering the number of times this issue has been talked to death at length, not merely by fans but by dev interviews and independent reviews, I'll merely state that I'm glad that CCP is the group making the design decisions, not the whiners on the forums. Here here, i couldn't agree more. Ambulation is coming whether you like it or not, if you don't want ambulation it has been clearly stated that it will be completely optional. I on the other hand can't wait for it.
Scaen The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.10.10 11:19:00 - [97] Originally by: SPIONKOP I have only ever been to one Fanfest, the 1st one. They showed a demo of planetary flight. It looked good and had the potentail to add something new to the game. Since then the game has changed so much but as for planatary flight were did it go? I would also like to hear what happened to planetary flight idea. Is it dropped or maybe it will come in line for development one day, maybe even after WiS? Simple "Idea is dropped/delayed/in development" would be enough :) About WiS: nice addition to EVE that will even more broad already waste aspects of gameplay in this greatest of all games.
KInkamache	Posted - 2008.10.10 15:43:00 - [98] wow i think this is a great improve to what it is a great game, this walking in the station feature will allow us to party up in stations and have Corporation meetings and get the best of the galaxy (woman). I personally will get me a amarr chick cant go wrong with this. Ah the beer part is great too, going to have to pirate to make money for the beer. Honestly this is a great improve to the game Bump for CCP
Faille Facetinea	Posted - 2008.10.10 16:18:00 - [99] Hello players and developers, I was thinking, and hoping, that Walk in station was not the limit of the EVE universe. WiS sounds like a great start but in my mind there is quite alot of unused and or unexplored potential in EVE depending on how far and wide the community and company would like to see EVE`s potential expand. Every single solar system has stations and asteroid belts and deadspace pockets to play in and around which is great and the number of systems is incredible but there is one almost totally unexplored area in EVE that I see as having huge potential, that area being all of the moons and planets which have almost no use in the game at this time other than moon mining. There is huge potential for on planet mining either with landers or player driven vehicles. The lander version being easier and possibly only a mini game and the player driven vehicles a bit more cmplicated due to graphics environment either or both would give miners other places to go other than cluttering belts. these are but a few thoughts I have had on where expansion could go in the future and I hope it seems interesting to players and developers alike. Caldari pilot Faille Facetinea
clhawks	Posted - 2008.10.10 18:29:00 - [100] Yes itÆs all very exciting but I have yet to hear of an ETA on the first initial release. Late 08 or early 09 or will it just fade away like Atmospheric Flight.

Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.11 13:03:00 - [101] Originally by: clhawks Yes itÆs all very exciting but I have yet to hear of an ETA on the first initial release. Late 08 or early 09 or will it just fade away like Atmospheric Flight. During or after the Fanfest we will get a bit more info and perhaps even an ETA.
Ahimsaka	Posted - 2008.10.11 21:28:00 - [102] Edited by: Ahimsaka on 11/10/2008 21:32:01 Originally by: Davan Sarn DO WANT. I'm very much looking forward to this addition, it's one of the primary reasons that I'm back in the game, and 4 people followed me back. This is going to be a roleplayers dream. One thing I'm still wondering about, and haven't yet found any more info on, is clothing, more specifically, what kind of options will we have, will we be restricted to only our races clothing? bloodline? Will it be tied to a skill (Diplomacy)? Or will we be able to wear whatever we want? This is an important thing for RPers, and I can see all three viewpoints. Personally, I'm for the skill based approach or the everybody can wear everything approach. The other thing I've been wondering, is weapons. There will obviously be no combat, but I think it was E-ON #6 that mentioned the possibility of decorative weapons to go on the avatars as accessories. I like this idea, I'm just wondering if it'll actually happen or not. Can't wait to see some videos from FanFest! I'm counting down the days. "...so yeah, I finally finished Quantum Physics V! But next I am going to switch over to to skilling Buttons and Zippers to III so I can finally put on my new pants. I'm not going to even dream of skilling for Ties, that's a rank 8 skill. I'll just wear a clip on tie, since that'll only take two days once I learn Getting Dressed V..." I realize you were talking about diplo skills, but skilling to wear clothes sounds positively obsurd to me(and frankly waaay too much like the armor concept). Perhaps you get certain clothing based on accomplishments (FW). MVP hat. "I Eat <x> Faction For Breakfast" shirt. "I killed and podded <X> 10 times!" knitted sweater. Maybe epeen ego shirts could be released. "My other Titan is parked outside...". There could be bondage equipment sold at Minmatar stations to go with the leather suits that so many seem to wear. Or as a gift (skills for that.. fine, give industrial people the option to work on their closet fashon/trinket fetish)... Rock the "World's Best CEO" mug. Or it could be location! I heart Jita t-shirts to prove you survived the lag! I don't know... WiS imo will bring a new feeling to the game, and customization is fine... but if I have to skill for clothing, then I'm just not getting dressed. Straight from the showers to the bar for this guy! My biggest question is will it run for people with dated or underpowered machines? OR will it be content like the graphic update, only to be used by those with higher end hardware or time to lag about?
Vandrieas Katsalas	Posted - 2008.10.12 01:58:00 - [103] Aside from the MMO testbed reason this may also be influencing the Walk in station feature Quote: Surface, Shipboard and Deep Space Adventures: Command your vessel in thrilling space battles, or beam down to planets with your away team for face-to-face confrontations. Missions will take you and your friends into space, planetside and even inside starships! This is from another website for a Sci-Fi based MMO that is planned for release in 2009/2010. EVE is headed for some stiffer competition than SWG. WIS is a necessary step for them to remain competative.
Madame Oblivion	Posted - 2008.10.12 11:54:00 - [104] Originally by: Mass Extinction Firstly, I dont have a low fps. Secondly, it makes no sense making the requirements to play the game higher as most people arent gamer geeks with no life. I couldn't stop laughing. By definition, to the rest of the non-gaming world, anyone playing EVE is a gamer geek with no life. Try walking into a real life bar and saying 'hey, I run a corporation in EVE' and see how far you get. Sheesh. I think you kind of missed the point there mate. I think what he is saying is that most people dont run a gamer computer with big graphics cards, fast HDDs, and superfast CPUs, that cost silly money. The clue was in the bit where he said it makes no sense raising the hardware requirements to play the game. Why do you think premium graphics is an optional download rather than the only option? Because premium graphics takes an awful lot of extra processing that most people simply dont have because they have an average home PC that they use for other things than playing Eve. Therefore I think this is a legitimate point even if some of his other points were a bit OTT and made forcefully. If ambulation means the average gamer has to buy more hardware to run it then CCP will lose custom.
Madame Oblivion	Posted - 2008.10.12 12:03:00 - [105] Originally by: Mass Extinction Ranting is not permitted on the forums. ~Saint Hmm, would've been interesting for others to see what was actually said rather than after the fact censorship that only hides it from people who joined the thread late. Also, it begs the question of defining what is ranting and what isn't. The post may have had many legitimate points despite the way it was posted. Personally, I think censorship is bad form and CCP shouldn't do it. By all means have words with the poster or even ****** out the rude bits, but to censor the whole post is a little OTT in my humble opinion. There's enough PC nonsense in the world without it being introduced here too!
Falaricae	Posted - 2008.10.12 18:50:00 - [106] Originally by: Madame Oblivion Originally by: Mass Extinction Ranting is not permitted on the forums. ~Saint Hmm, would've been interesting for others to see what was actually said rather than after the fact censorship that only hides it from people who joined the thread late. Also, it begs the question of defining what is ranting and what isn't. The post may have had many legitimate points despite the way it was posted. Personally, I think censorship is bad form and CCP shouldn't do it. By all means have words with the poster or even ****** out the rude bits, but to censor the whole post is a little OTT in my humble opinion. There's enough PC nonsense in the world without it being introduced here too! He was ranting and saying not so nice things to people, so he was moderated. If you want to know his super secret ultimate post of doom then go to EVE-search and look it up yourself.
4pple 5eed	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:11:00 - [107] I don't know why so many people are up in arms about this, CCP clearly states that ambulation is optional, so if you don't like this option then don't use it, no one is forcing you. And chances are they will separate the WiS part of the game out from the spaceflight part so you wont be experiencing lag while in space due to a lot of avatars walking around in various stations in the system you're in. So RELAX this isn't going to kill the game, just change it. I mean I don't see people who don't like to mine complaining about the existence of mining in the game because it makes the game boring. That would be silly because you aren't required to mine if you don't want to, so if you arent into mining, that aspect of gameplay doesn't affect you. Besides this has the potential to add a whole plethora of gameplay options to EVE. I'd like to see gambling implemented as an extra source of income. Maybe even the ability to open small shops inside of stations that allows players to run a business without having to start/join a corp or stake claim to a POS. You could add skills like pickpocketing to make some extra spending cash, and possibly other mini games for money/fun. There is the possibility to go into occupations that don't require blowing billions of ISK on a ship and equipment to fly and arm it. Perhaps working as an assassin or mercenary. Frankly the possibilities with ambulation are almost endless, and i do see combat as an inevitability since it is already apparent that most people want it. As far as popularity goes this only has the ability to improve things. Adding the ability to customise your characters' appearance and whatnot will attract a lot of RPGers, my girlfriend for instance is a big fan of Pirates of the Carribean and plays it a lot. She encountered a lot of sexism and flak because she was a girl so i tried to get her to play EVE, but it didn't appeal to her and she was surprised by the lack of ambulation. So she went back to playing pirates in spite of her troubles. Also the mention of women gets me to wondering if there will be some kind of sexual content in the game, maybe strippers or something. I'm sure that option will silence a lot of detractors(and create a whole group of new ones). Just a thought. Oh as for lag, i think that EVE has a remarkable lack of lag since it's all on one server and its located in iceland. I live in southern California and if I were to play counterstrike on an iceland server I would have a hard time NOT having lag. Plus i'd like to see a WoW or everquest server handle 20000 players as smoothly as EVE does. Also as far as hardware requirements goes actually the reality is that new games are constantly requiring players to upgrade their hardware to be able to play them. Think of Crysis or Bioshock, as I recall when Bioshock came out it required systems to have pixelshader of 2.0 (or 3.0?) which was not present on the majority of video cards currently in use at the time. In spite of this both of these games have been commercial successes, so I don't see CCP being scared of increasing system requirements.
Davan Sarn Gallente Chasm City Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.13 05:39:00 - [108] Originally by: Ahimsaka Edited by: Ahimsaka on 11/10/2008 21:32:01 "...so yeah, I finally finished Quantum Physics V! But next I am going to switch over to to skilling Buttons and Zippers to III so I can finally put on my new pants. I'm not going to even dream of skilling for Ties, that's a rank 8 skill. I'll just wear a clip on tie, since that'll only take two days once I learn Getting Dressed V..." I realize you were talking about diplo skills, but skilling to wear clothes sounds positively obsurd to me(and frankly waaay too much like the armor concept). Perhaps you get certain clothing based on accomplishments (FW). MVP hat. "I Eat <x> Faction For Breakfast" shirt. "I killed and podded <X> 10 times!" knitted sweater. Maybe epeen ego shirts could be released. "My other Titan is parked outside...". There could be bondage equipment sold at Minmatar stations to go with the leather suits that so many seem to wear. Or as a gift (skills for that.. fine, give industrial people the option to work on their closet fashon/trinket fetish)... Rock the "World's Best CEO" mug. Or it could be location! I heart Jita t-shirts to prove you survived the lag! I don't know... WiS imo will bring a new feeling to the game, and customization is fine... but if I have to skill for clothing, then I'm just not getting dressed. Straight from the showers to the bar for this guy! My biggest question is will it run for people with dated or underpowered machines? OR will it be content like the graphic update, only to be used by those with higher end hardware or time to lag about? I don't think you got what I was asking 100% I'm not wondering if it will require a skill to button buttons, or create buttons, I'm more curious if clothing restrictions will be based on race or faction (if there are any restrictions), and if so, if there will be skills that allow us to don other race's clothing. I merely mused that I could see Diplomacy used in that role. I do agree that needing skills to equip clothing would be ridiculous this is more like, needing skills to wear a race's fashion style.
Togen Lei	Posted - 2008.10.13 07:46:00 - [109] I to am interested to see ambulation. I see it as an evolutionary first step in continuous improvements in the game, retracters of the idea just want to pilot their ships in space and don't want to roleplay their characters. That's fine, but there is a large number of players that like the RPG portion of games, as mentioned earlier in this thread there are some players whom play the game to run Corps, not pilot their ships in any way (or at least with minimum flight times). This expansion will be a nice addition for them, and for any fan of RPG in general as it will add a whole new aspect to the game, with potential to add so much more depth to an already pretty complex game. If you want to simply fly your ships and mine, pirate, trade, or fight faction battles then do so. I haven't seen a single thread that has the people that choose to pay $15 a month to run a Corp and not do all those other things complain about the lag caused by people flying through the system they're attempting to work in. And as for the lag issue, I'd challenge anyone to find a MMO game that has 500 plus players on a single server engaging in a single battle without lag. I've heard others talking about 1000+ players in a single battle in Eve with minimum lag....1000 that's more players than many games have on a single server, so instead of complaining that you had lag when you were in a massive battle maybe you should thank CCP for allowing that many people to be in the same battle. I know there is 1 tried and true way to keep the battle lag from affecting all but the slowest PC's....limit the number of players allowed to join any battle. CCP doesn't do that, they make every attempt to make the battles enjoyable for as many as they can. And before I get the "you're just a carebear sucking up to CCP" I'm not, I have played numerous MMO's for well over a decade and thus far Eve is by far the biggest I've ever played, and the lowest lag for the most players. Technology is only as good as those that implement it, and CCP seems to be doing a decent job of implementation.
Shady's Lady Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:05:00 - [110] Edited by: Shady''s Lady on 13/10/2008 11:05:52 Originally by: Falaricae He was ranting and saying not so nice things to people, so he was moderated. If you want to know his super secret ultimate post of doom then go to EVE-search and look it up yourself. I saw it before it was moderated. Made me laugh more than anything but I think he had one or two valid points. But, nuff said... cheers Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.

Shady's Lady Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:11:00 - [111] Edited by: Shady''s Lady on 13/10/2008 11:12:28 I dont really see the point of it. Can't see it adding much to gameplay. I spend most of my time in space doing one thing or another. Strikes me as a purely cosmetic feature like premium graphics (which I don't use either). If I wanted to do fashion I'd buy a new cindy doll. cheers Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.
Shady's Lady Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:21:00 - [112] Edited by: Shady''s Lady on 13/10/2008 11:22:08 Originally by: 4pple 5eed Also the mention of women gets me to wondering if there will be some kind of sexual content in the game, maybe strippers or something. I'm sure that option will silence a lot of detractors(and create a whole group of new ones). Just a thought. As long as they're male strippers. What's up? Don't seem like such a good idea eh? Funny you should mention the sexism your GF encounters in PotC, and then say this...... cheers Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.
Davan Sarn Gallente Chasm City Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:19:00 - [113] Originally by: Shady's Lady Edited by: Shady''s Lady on 13/10/2008 11:12:28 I dont really see the point of it. Can't see it adding much to gameplay. I spend most of my time in space doing one thing or another. Strikes me as a purely cosmetic feature like premium graphics (which I don't use either). If I wanted to do fashion I'd buy a new cindy doll. Based on your comments, I'd guess that you're the kind of gamer who'd be happy if there were no graphics at all, just a text interface I could be wrong though. Some people don't care for fancy graphics, and that's fine. I'm a Graphic Designer and Artist, and for me, the better it looks, the more eye-candy and fluff, the better, it helps me immerse myself in the game. I don't understand the people who don't like visual improvements, and likewise, I'm sure most of you don't understand me, but that's the beauty of being human, we embrace our differences, otherwise life would be boring :D
Rumba Purring Gravis Unbound	Posted - 2008.10.13 19:57:00 - [114] Originally by: Davan Sarn Originally by: Shady's Lady Edited by: Shady''s Lady on 13/10/2008 11:12:28 I dont really see the point of it. Can't see it adding much to gameplay. and for me, the better it looks, the more eye-candy and fluff, the better, it helps me immerse myself in the game. I don't understand the people who don't like visual improvements, and likewise, I'm sure most of you don't understand me, but that's the beauty of being human, we embrace our differences, otherwise life would be boring :D Amen to beautiful eye-candies. I spend so many hours staring at the game. It might as well be beautiful. (If one compares EVE to a movie, why watch a movie with sub-par production value special effects?) Also, I think WiS will change player corp social dynamics. It will bring people who like full avatar interaction closer to a specific location in the EVE universe. Would you be ready if the gravity reversed itself?
Shady's Lady Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.13 23:09:00 - [115] Originally by: Rumba Purring Amen to beautiful eye-candies. I spend so many hours staring at the game. It might as well be beautiful. (If one compares EVE to a movie, why watch a movie with sub-par production value special effects?) Also, I think WiS will change player corp social dynamics. It will bring people who like full avatar interaction closer to a specific location in the EVE universe. If we're going to compare Eve to movies based on the graphical content and top notch movie special effects lets hope they dont do a Hollywood on it and forget to put a decent story in there somewhere. For me if a film has to rely on special effects to make it good then the writing is usually crap. Think about Red Dwarf. When it was low-budget it was brilliant. When America got hold of it they made it all graphically great but forgot to write any decent storylines. From my perspectuve game developemt should focus on the gaming. As I said above, and you all seem to be agreeing, is that it won't add to game play. It's a cosmetic feature. I hope that it won't be a compulsory feature, because if I am forced to get out of my pod between missions or when changing/refitting ship during PvP then it won't be usfeul to me in any way. I don't really care if my outfit makes my bum look big. cheers Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2008.10.13 23:35:00 - [116] There will be gameplay in WiS but it will be social gameplay and not make you better at flying a spaceship directly. People who dislike any gameplay when it isn't combat might not enjoy WiS as much as people who do like other types of games, but then again isn't there plenty of combat to be found in EVE already? We know some players won't like WiS and others will probably love it, but this is the case with any new feature. I'm interested to hear what people look forward to most, or what would make a hardcore pirate warm up to the idea of WiS (aside from knife fights, pocket rockets and laserz). These are the type of questions we ask when we design WiS Also in case you were wondering with the fall of the krone this is the best time to visit iceland, beer is affordable and you could even bring your SO to enjoy icelandic adventures, see the northern lights etc. Loads of people are doing their shopping in iceland while before iceland did its shopping in other countries. Crazy! So even if you have no intention of attending fanfest but were always curious about iceland as a destination (the country is stunning) this is a good time to visit Pink Dread has been hijacked

Mhaerdirne Solveig Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.13 23:48:00 - [117] will there be weed to smoke in it because I've made a gimmick for years out of smoking weed in my cheetah and if people can actually see me they must see me smoking weed this is really important my reputation is at stake Signature removed. Text is showing as "Signature no longer available" and filesize is well in excess of the allowed 400 x 120 pixels. Navigator
Rumba Purring	Posted - 2008.10.14 00:57:00 - [118] Originally by: Shady's Lady Think about Red Dwarf. When it was low-budget it was brilliant. When America got hold of it they made it all graphically great but forgot to write any decent storylines. From my perspectuve game developemt should focus on the gaming. As I said above, and you all seem to be agreeing, is that it won't add to game play. It's a cosmetic feature. I agree that poor content makes a poor game. However, you can't tell me you don't enjoy good graphics. The original 'Red Dwarf' is an interesting case. Good writing, original situations. But poor effects were too distracting for me to stick with the show. There are plenty of good stuff with both good writing and good production value. There's only so much time. As for the quality of EVE graphics, the premium content was compelling enough for me to get a dedicated PC to enjoy it. I guess it's like building a high def home theater to enjoy good movies even more. So, CCP, keep them coming! Am I too shallow for wanting EVE to look beautiful? Possibly. But then again, I'm not exactly expecting a space MMO to educate me on the meaning of life. What I want is a good looking and engaging entertainment, and EVE delivers so far. But if looks of EVE were to fall too far behind other games, I probably would probably stop logging in. (Don't ask for my stuff. I already have have friends to give my stuff to, if I quit, and they are not on this forum. ) But that's just me. Would you be ready if the gravity reversed itself?
Mhaerdirne Solveig Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.14 03:47:00 - [119] note: it doesn't actually have to be weed but at least a cigarette or a hookah or something Signature removed. Text is showing as "Signature no longer available" and filesize is well in excess of the allowed 400 x 120 pixels. Navigator
Moonmonkey	Posted - 2008.10.14 10:05:00 - [120] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia There will be gameplay in WiS but it will be social gameplay and not make you better at flying a spaceship directly. People who dislike any gameplay when it isn't combat might not enjoy WiS as much as people who do like other types of games, but then again isn't there plenty of combat to be found in EVE already? We know some players won't like WiS and others will probably love it, but this is the case with any new feature. I'm interested to hear what people look forward to most, or what would make a hardcore pirate warm up to the idea of WiS (aside from knife fights, pocket rockets and laserz). It would be nice if there was some stations in with you could fight for control. A few stations in the Faction Warfare systems would be rather fun. Besides that the only thing about walking in the station that im interested in, is being able to see and get a feel for the scale of the different ship types.

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