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Pehma Hess
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Posted - 2004.06.23 03:20:00 -
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We've all been there, shields gone, armor going fast, need to go and go NOW! Assuming you're not being warp jammed, navigating through those 4 tier navigation menu's is a wicked thing under fire. Sure, you can double click on an item in space, but sometimes those items take a little time to find, and if you're timing is a little off you get those menu's again. You could also have a destination set for your autopilot and engage it to warp out, but that's a VERY bad idea if you're really trying to avoid the blockade at the gate.
Introducing the Acme Panic Button! It would be nice if you could program the button for the system you are currently in to a bookmark location you have stored or create for the moment, you could even preselect a warp-in range. Hitting the panic button quickly envokes all necessary command options to get your ship moving out of the area. Another option might be to have the panic button work similar to the disconnect warp-out feature where it would warp you to a random location away from the combat area, only not warp you back to your starting location once you arrived. I expect this would be the most practical application of this feature.
Predators feel free to flame, prey feel free to add your comments and thoughts.
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Photon Lightwielder
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Posted - 2004.06.23 03:49:00 -
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sounds pretty cool to me :) gets my vote
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Nikkoli
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Posted - 2004.06.23 04:25:00 -
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How about it takes ALL of your remaining capacitor, and warps you in a strait line the direction you are facing the distance that ammount of cap would take you....... if you have a full cap, you may end up in the middle of nowhere with a LONG trip home.... but it would be worth it.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.06.23 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nikkoli How about it takes ALL of your remaining capacitor, and warps you in a strait line the direction you are facing the distance that ammount of cap would take you....... if you have a full cap, you may end up in the middle of nowhere with a LONG trip home.... but it would be worth it.
Thats what i would like and would proberly be the easyest to implement Thank You Paw Sandberg
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CidHighwind
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Posted - 2004.06.23 06:43:00 -
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Let me tell you a trick, when you are gonna be on combat, or are mining, or ANYTHING dangerous... Keep something as your autopilot destination. That way, if you need to get away FAST, just hit the button. One click, and your outta there!
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.06.23 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: CidHighwind Let me tell you a trick, when you are gonna be on combat, or are mining, or ANYTHING dangerous... Keep something as your autopilot destination. That way, if you need to get away FAST, just hit the button. One click, and your outta there!
i was told that aligning using the AP is actuelly slower then aligning using a planet for instanse
my main reason for wanting this is of course that the damn ship would not take as long to alignas i would only need to go in the direction i am facing Thank You Paw Sandberg
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CidHighwind
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Posted - 2004.06.23 06:54:00 -
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It probably does, but it eliminates the usage of the 3-tier menu, which NEVER works when you need it. You always lag, or the menu closes, or you end up clicking a planet just as the rat tears into your hull.
I wouldnt mind a panic button myself, but the autopilot trick helps until there is one, if ever.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.06.23 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: CidHighwind It probably does, but it eliminates the usage of the 3-tier menu, which NEVER works when you need it. You always lag, or the menu closes, or you end up clicking a planet just as the rat tears into your hull.
I wouldnt mind a panic button myself, but the autopilot trick helps until there is one, if ever.
true i have saved my ship that way many times
I should really learn to leave the fight BEFORE the rats start chewing on my Hull Thank You Paw Sandberg
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Etoile Chercheur
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Posted - 2004.06.23 08:08:00 -
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in addition to the "keeping AutoPilot on standby" trick, here's another advanced escape technique, although you'll really **** off any griefers, tollers, or enemies if you use it... but that's okay. they'd use it too. besides, just like insta-bookmarks, this tactic requires some finesse and preparation. as far as i'm aware, it is NOT an exploit, and it does leave you vulerable for a bit, sitting stock still.
when you turn on an Afterburner or MWD, your minimum warp speed gets raised also, to prevent you from using them to jump to warp quickly with no effort. so this is what you do.
let's say your minimum warp speed is 92m/s. and let's say your MWD has a cycle of 10 seconds. what you do is time your ship to see how long it takes, with the MWD on, to reach 92m/s. let's say this takes 5 seconds.
what you do, then, is set the MWD to manual. when you want to leave, hit the STOP button and give it a moment to get below 20m/s. (actualy, this technique works best after just having jumped through a gate when you're at a standstill.) then, turn on the MWD, but wait 5 seconds before engaging warp engines.
what will happen is that your ship will quickly accelerate to 92m/s, and after the last 5 seconds, the MWD will cut out, instantly lowering your minimum warp speed back down to 92m/s. and whoosh! you're off.
works like a charm. i use it all the time in my hauler as the old, bulky girl takes an age to turn around and align. this works pretty well with just afterburners, but it's magnificent with a mwd.
there are those that cry exploit and **** and moan about it, saying there's just no way to catch an experienced pilot at a gate anymore... (*ahem* warp-disruptor fields), but i think it's a quite clever technique, and falls well outside of the bounds of other, less-honorable tactics like logging out when you're doomed.
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Joe Redpawn
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Posted - 2004.06.23 09:09:00 -
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I use the "People and Places" menu and have my closest station set, and just right click that and hit dock.
When your outmatched and dying, that seems feasable to me. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Joe Redpawn Order of Chivalry Corp, EVE | EVE Online Rocks
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Holi
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Posted - 2004.06.23 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nikkoli How about it takes ALL of your remaining capacitor, and warps you in a strait line the direction you are facing the distance that ammount of cap would take you....... if you have a full cap, you may end up in the middle of nowhere with a LONG trip home.... but it would be worth it.
Only one big problem with this. Atm good safespot setups take at least some minor skill to set up. With this implemented, just get an indy (their cap is best for long range warps) face some direction and "PANIC!". There you go, instant safespot with 100+AU distance and impossible to find.
I don't mind safespots, but this would make it too easy to set them up. Or if they do implement it, then I want a midslot safe-spot finder module that could warp you into at least 100000km distance to any object you can locate with the scanner - still a fair distance, but a good safespot hunter could reach it evetually
Maybe just add the feature to the autopilot to use in-system waypoints also? Would be usefull in other areas aswell, not just as a "PANIC!" feature. -- Holi
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Jennyfyr
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Posted - 2004.06.23 10:15:00 -
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i like this idear (panick = straign line fowards max cap) but there could still be the problem colision dection takeing an age to let you get to min warp speed
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Pehma Hess
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Posted - 2004.06.23 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: CidHighwind Let me tell you a trick, when you are gonna be on combat, or are mining, or ANYTHING dangerous... Keep something as your autopilot destination. That way, if you need to get away FAST, just hit the button. One click, and your outta there!
Yep, covered that comment in the very first post... The straight line warp sounds perfect! The main intent of the button is to get out quickly, and having to turn the ship definately eats up escape time. A max capable jump with remaining energy in current direction sounds like a great plan. Pilots will just need to be sure the route in front of them is clear for warping before slapping the panic button. After that, the pilot can jump around all he likes to evade any pursuers and lick his wounds. Definately would not be a button you would want to hit by accident, you'd end up WAY out there somewhere with a drained energy core.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.06.23 23:37:00 -
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i would mainly use this for NPC rats
however there could be a something on there saying only when armor is 25% or lower that way a PvP will have plenty of time to warp scramble
also if i am not mistaken the black covert ops frigates can warp after a target (as well as to a target) Thank You Paw Sandberg
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Redan Chulipa
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Posted - 2004.06.24 01:21:00 -
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How about you just lose your ship once in a while when you mess up?
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gk0r
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Posted - 2004.06.24 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Redan Chulipa How about you just lose your ship once in a while when you mess up?
lol ! That's the spirit!
As for AB and indie trick - I have been doing that all though I haven't reached the conclusion whether it speeds it up time wise or not and whether it's considerable or not ---------------------- I make up with stupidity for the rest of my corporation.
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Brobro
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Posted - 2004.06.24 15:29:00 -
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hold down alt, and double click a stellar object, and off you go.
Or better yet fly in the direction of that object before you get into trouble. (so you are directly at the required speed when you want to warp) then perform the above action.
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Pehma Hess
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Posted - 2004.06.24 17:20:00 -
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Agreed, the panic button will most likely be best suited for the newer players taking on NPC rats. I expect it to be very unlikely that in a PVP situation that one of the pilots won't have a webifier or warp inhibitor, espcially in team battles.
At any rate, we've heard some points from both sides of the fence, guess it's time to sit back and see if CCP wants to do anything with this idea or not.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.06.24 17:46:00 -
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or old player like me that dont have the sense to leave a NPC fight while the going is good Thank You Paw Sandberg
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Nikkoli
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Posted - 2004.06.26 04:24:00 -
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Edited by: Nikkoli on 26/06/2004 04:32:02
Originally by: CidHighwind Let me tell you a trick, when you are gonna be on combat, or are mining, or ANYTHING dangerous... Keep something as your autopilot destination. That way, if you need to get away FAST, just hit the button. One click, and your outta there!
I use this trick for NPC's.. or if I see something to doubleclick I do that....
The time I personally would use panic the most is when I am in an asteroid belt or near a station and a pirate (player) decides they want to mess with me. Warping to a gate is usually not a good Idea so the Autopilot option sucks for that.
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Delc
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:22:00 -
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I like the funtion alot
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Delc
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:22:00 -
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I like the funtion alot
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Tarlok
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:51:00 -
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There is a panic button. It's Ctrl-Q.
Okay ... you still get blow up, but at least you don't have to witness it. Hence: no panic :)
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Tarlok
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:51:00 -
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There is a panic button. It's Ctrl-Q.
Okay ... you still get blow up, but at least you don't have to witness it. Hence: no panic :)
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 07/07/2004 13:53:10 I think a "straight line max burn warp in the direction I'm pointing panic button" would only be used for one thing:
Making safe spots.
So, IMO, an idea that should be forgotten about.
Just don't get into a situation where you might panic. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |
Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 07/07/2004 13:53:10 I think a "straight line max burn warp in the direction I'm pointing panic button" would only be used for one thing:
Making safe spots.
So, IMO, an idea that should be forgotten about.
Just don't get into a situation where you might panic. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |
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