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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.08 15:43:00 -
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Hey Hey
in the spirit of the Game Dev forum and a request from CCP Mitnal
 Originally by: CCP Mitnal (Mr Locksalot)
A FAQ would be a great idea, work together on a list of questions and we'll link and answer them.
could people please list frequently asked questions in this forum. i'll try and keep the list up to date as much as possible.
Many thanks
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.08 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Mikal Drey on 08/10/2008 15:52:19
1) How many missions until i get a storyline.
2) What is COSMOS and what are the COSMOS constellations
3) Why did i just get a faction hit
4) Why cant i access this agent
5) How long till i can refuse a mission again
6) Standings Information
7) Agent locations
8) Mission Guide(s)
9) Data Centers
10)
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MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.08 21:15:00 -
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Do you want only the questions, or do you want the answers too?
If the latter, then I offer answers for these FAQs you've already listed:
Q1. How many missions until I get a storyline?
A1. A storyline mission (referred to in-game as "an important mission") is offered after you have completed the 16th mission of the same level for the same faction. It is not necessary that these missions be completed sequentially without break, i.e. you can mix levels/NPCs/factions of missions and successes/failures of those missions without penalty.
Important definitions:- completed: Turned in successfully. Only the character which was offered a mission can turn it in. Missions turned in as a fleet/gang only count towards a storyline mission for that one character that accepted the mission.
- same level: Missions are assigned one of five levels (1..5) that roughly correspond to their difficulty. Storyline missions are categorized similarly, and are issued to match the level of the 16 completed missions.
- same faction: Storyline missions are rewarded (in part) by gains in faction standing, so it makes sense that the qualifying 16 missions would need to all be in support of the same faction. Example factions are: Angel Cartel, Amarr, Ammatar Mandate, Blood Raiders, Caldari, Gallente, Guristas, Khanid Kingdom, Minmatar, Sansha's Nation, Serpentis, ... Essentially a "faction" is any NPC entity which can claim system sovereignty. (Note that "faction" includes NPC entities such as Concord which have sovereignty but which do not presently have agents.)
Q4. Why can't I access this agent?
A4. In order to be offered missions from non-storyline mission agents, or to access R&D agents, you must meet the agent's standings requirements, which can be found on the agent's "show info" section. In addition to the agent's listed standings requirement, you must not have an negative effective standing with the agent's faction. (Effective faction standing is your raw faction standing modified by the Diplomacy skill.)
The only access to storyline mission agents is via storyline missions (see Q1).
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.10.08 21:55:00 -
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Anyone that wishes to answer, feel free to do so, any that run into problems I'll go get the definitive answer.
Once we run out of questions and answers, I'll collate all them all together and make a new sticky.
Thanks to Mikal Drey for taking the lead on this.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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Jethro Jechonias
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.08 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jethro Jechonias on 08/10/2008 22:28:21
To add to MailDeadDrop's answers:
Q1) While storyline missions are given after 16 regular missions, there is a delay between the completion of the mission and the appearance of the offer. It is therefore possible to complete a 17th mission (or possibly even more) before the storyline offer appears. Completing extra missions will count towards your next storyline. So if you completed a 17th mission before you storyline offer appeared, your next storyline mission will appear after 15 missions. The basic principle remains: you will be offered 1 storyline mission for every 16 regular missions.
Q4) It is also important to note, that once you have aquired the needed standings, the agent will display as being available, but you will not be able to get a mission until after you log off and log back on.
Some of my own answers:
Q3) Common reasons for losing faction standings:
- Killing an NPC belonging to that faction
- Gaining standing with an opposing faction
- Declining more than 1 mission within 4 hours for a single agent
- Failing any mission
- Killing a member of your militia
Q5) You can decline 1 mission for each agent every 4 hours. If you decline a second mission for that agent within those 4 hours you will lose agent, corp and faction standings. You can decline several missions within 4 hours if each mission was offered by a different agent.
Another common question:
Q10) What do I do if my standing is so low that agents won't talk to me?
Your options are:
- Train Diplomacy
- Complete storyline/COSMOS missions for an allied faction
- Gain ranks with that faction's (or its ally's) militia while part of a player corp in that militia: this only works once, and is currently only available for the main empire factions.
If you have exhausted those options, you will not be able to restore your standings until changes are made to game mechanics.
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Zaknussem
Caldari
The Ironbreakers
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Posted - 2008.10.09 00:18:00 -
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Additional info to Q1:
# The missions given out by R&D agents do count towards storyline missions.
# (Not 100% certain) There are no storyline missions given out for Level 5 missions.
# How storyline agents work: When you are eligible for a storyline mission, you will receive an EVE-Mail from a storyline agent belonging to the same faction, i.e. if you just completed the 16th Level 2 mission for the Amarr Empire, you will receive an EVE-Mail from an Amarrian storyline agent. Which storyline agent will contact you is not based upon the corp you were doing missions for, but your location. (I do not know 100% what factors regarding location are used. Is it based upon the location of the mission agent, or the location of the player when (s)he completes the 16th mission?) |
Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.10.09 01:42:00 -
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Adding to A10)
You can also run missions as a team with someone who DOES have the standings to do so. This will split the resulting standings increase among the gang members, resulting in some positive standings change with that agent and corp. It does nothing to increase the faction standing, and storyline missions do not split the standing either.
However, do this enough, and you yourself will have good enough standings with that agent to run missions for yourself, which WILL unlock the storyline missions, and let you start working on that faction standing. It's a long painful process, but, if you think about it, it should be.
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 11:38:00 -
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thanks for the input.
 gonna add all the questions in the second post.
if theres any information that requires a direct link i will link it accordingly.
will try and BM the answers for anything that appears in this thread directly.
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Jethro Jechonias
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.09 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
Adding to A10)
You can also run missions as a team with someone who DOES have the standings to do so. This will split the resulting standings increase among the gang members, resulting in some positive standings change with that agent and corp. It does nothing to increase the faction standing, and storyline missions do not split the standing either.
However, do this enough, and you yourself will have good enough standings with that agent to run missions for yourself, which WILL unlock the storyline missions, and let you start working on that faction standing. It's a long painful process, but, if you think about it, it should be.
This is useless if your effective faction standing is less than -2.0 which is the common reason people ask this question.
This is most effective when trying to gain rapid access to agents in a new corp. As such this might serve better as an answer to "How do I quickly gain access to high level agents" rather than "What do I do when I have screwed up my standings"
The process of gaining access to agents this way is quite painless. It is normally done within a couple dozen combat missions if not less.
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MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.09 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
However, do this enough, and you yourself will have good enough standings with that agent to run missions for yourself, which WILL unlock the storyline missions, and let you start working on that faction standing.
I don't know that which I underlined is untrue, but I think it is (and I think to which Jethro Jechonias was alluding). I believe that the storyline agents still apply the "no negative faction standing" rule. So for example if your Amarr faction standing is -1.2 (effective), then even if you get access to an Amarr NPC corp agent and run 16 missions, I suspect you'll get an Eve mail for "an important mission" but will then be unable to speak to the storyline agent to accept & complete the mission. Can someone with "screwed up" faction standings please confirm/deny that this is in fact what happens?
It also points out an obvious fix that CCP could do: remove the faction standing check from the storyline agents. Then people with "screwed up" standings could "fix" their standings via teamwork.
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.10.09 16:22:00 -
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Sorry, I did screw that one up a bit. It is -2.0 that is the cutoff, not 'no negative'. Keep in mind that diplomacy will improve the situation, so you could actually have a raw -3.99 faction standing and it is recoverable (as Diplomacy V would give you a modified -1.99, therefore allowing agent access.)
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.10.09 16:24:00 -
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Sorry, I did screw that one up a bit. It is -2.0 that is the cutoff, not 'no negative'. Keep in mind that diplomacy will improve the situation, so you could actually have a raw -3.99 faction standing and it is recoverable (as Diplomacy V would give you a modified -1.99, therefore allowing agent access.)
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MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.09 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jethro Jechonias
To add to MailDeadDrop's answers:
Q4) It is also important to note, that once you have aquired the needed standings, the agent will display as being available, but you will not be able to get a mission until after you log off and log back on.
You sure about that? I've experienced cases where I have sufficient standing and the agent stubbornly display as not available, and in those cases I've had to do a session change (i.e. go to an adjacent system & return). But I've never had a case where the agent shows as available but refuses to speak to me.
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