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Kytoth
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Posted - 2012.03.31 16:43:00 -
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I think it should be obvious that a Char doing ship reimbursement from his own wallet for a 1000+ pilot alliance might look alot like an RMT'er, e.g. both give large amounts of isk to lots of people for no apparent reason.
Especially to some script crawling the DB.
Ofc PL could also have accepted large amounts of RMT'ed isk for their contracts with certain alliances.
I'd however be slow with pointing fingers, I'm pretty sure CCP's program has some major flaws in it. |
Kytoth
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Posted - 2012.03.31 16:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote: As long as *all* the major alliances are investigated and those that RMT are similarly actioned.
You'd have to be very naive to think that only PL were at it.........................
PAN
Which is why I am looking forwards to the next few days.
Do you really think they manually looked at alliances/corps/chars? I'm pretty sure they ran some DB script looking for suspicious transfers, which are pretty hard to define, and then just removed all the isk said script flagged / banned flagged accounts. |
Kytoth
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Posted - 2012.03.31 17:07:00 -
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Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote:Kytoth wrote:baltec1 wrote:Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote: As long as *all* the major alliances are investigated and those that RMT are similarly actioned.
You'd have to be very naive to think that only PL were at it.........................
PAN
Which is why I am looking forwards to the next few days. Do you really think they manually looked at alliances/corps/chars? I'm pretty sure they ran some DB script looking for suspicious transfers, which are pretty hard to define, and then just removed all the isk said script flagged / banned flagged accounts. You might well be right but I would have thought that *someone* within CCP took a look at this *before* a final decision to take the ISK from PL was made. We would hope at any rate. PAN
I'd sure hope that as well, but judging by the sheer amount of transactions and chars involved I'm not certain.
Also they might just blindly remove/ban in the first cycle, then look at all the petitions etc and use that experience to tweak their scripts, then start again.
EDIT: There seems to be a misconception here that they took 15t or so from an alliance wallet. In fact that number seems to have been reached by looking at ALL the chars in PL and how much isk they lost. So this is over hundreds of chars, and not some single wallet. |
Kytoth
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Posted - 2012.03.31 17:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Kytoth wrote:
I'd sure hope that as well, but judging by the sheer amount of transactions and chars involved I'm not certain.
Also they might just blindly remove/ban in the first cycle, then look at all the petitions etc and use that experience to tweak their scripts, then start again.
EDIT: There seems to be a misconception here that they took 15t or so from an alliance wallet. In fact that number seems to have been reached by looking at ALL the chars in PL and how much isk they lost. So this is over hundreds of chars, and not some single wallet.
Kinda blows the who "this is a mistake" out of the water. Also, if the CCP auto destroyer was going to go after a alliance based simply on isk exchanges I would have thought the goons would have been top of that list if it were true.
A. They did not go "after an alliance". They took isk from a large amount of chars, and banned the source. Don't see how this "blows the mistake out of the water".
B. "simply on isk exchanges" How do you suppose they identify RMT'ers if not by their isk transfer patterns?
C. Who said other alliances did not have this occuring / use the same centralized structure. |
Kytoth
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Posted - 2012.03.31 17:38:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Kytoth wrote:
A. They did not go "after an alliance". They took isk from a large amount of chars, and banned the source. Don't see how this "blows the mistake out of the water".
B. "simply on isk exchanges" How do you suppose they identify RMT'ers if not by their isk transfer patterns?
C. Who said other alliances did not have this occuring / use the same centralized structure.
If CCP simply went after the master wallet because it was spamming out a lot of isk why then did the master wallet of the largest ship replacement fund not get hit first?
Because one was done over a char's wallet and the other is a corp wallet? Honestly I have no idea, but how likely is it that CCP wrote something that worked perfectly from the beginning (or ever will) |
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