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Padme Amidala Naberrie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:53:00 -
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Ore Bunny wrote:Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote:Ore Bunny wrote:Calmoto wrote:2 words viper shitzle Shizzle 2 words and 50% of em are wrong spelled, typical Goon. Incorrectly spelt. If you are going to pick on someone's spelling and grammar to try and hoist them you really should make some effort to get it right yourself. Just saying. PAN if your going to pick on someone's spelling, who is picking on someone's spelling, you should know what is English and what not. just saying, BRO
Being English, I do. Seems you don't.
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Padme Amidala Naberrie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.01 19:58:00 -
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The assumption that everyone seems to be making is that Pandemic Legion *bought* ISK.
Might it not be that they, in fact, sold ISK and seeing as CCP can't remove the real money they made, they simply took away from them the same amount of ISK that they sold by way of punishment?
PAN |
Kaldaine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:03:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Kaldaine wrote:Kaldaine wrote:I can confirm that Goonswarm was not affected by this. Noone in the alliance RMT's. Goonswarm has strict policies against RMTing with zero tolerance policies. Please, no trolling or unsupported false accusations. lol I caught a Goon asking for no trolling or unsupported false accusations lol Does that mean he has to put 25 ISK into the swear jar?
There is no need for ad hominem attacks here, please keep it respectful. This should be a place for civil discourse where noone should be afraid to post with their mains just because they are in a certain alliance or corp. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Drunk 'n' Disorderly
11
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:07:00 -
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Fractal Muse wrote:I may not have fully understood the Security Presentation by CCP but I thought that it was the perpetrators of the ISK generating activities that had their ISK removed and not the end parties.
For example, if EVE player Iamguilty botted and generated a billion ISK, then Iamguilty bought a really nice implant from Innocent then the ISK would be removed from Iamguilty and not Innocent.
If Iamguilty bought ISK via RMT then Iamguilty has that amount removed regardless if Iamguilty bought something from Innocent.
The posts here are suggesting that Innocent gets nailed by the removal of ISK. Is this the case?
If Iamguilty buys a billion ISK then uses it to buy all sorts of cool stuff from Innocent, Innocent loses a billion ISK and Iamguilty is left alone? That seems... strange and contrary to the stated policy of CCP but I could have misunderstood.
Further, if someone is selling ISK for money, who has that ISK removed?
In the situation: ImaketoomuchISK has an excess of ISK and therefore sells it to Iamguilty.
Who has what punishment?
Does ImaketoomuchISK have ISK removed? Are they banned? Heck, does ImaketoomuchISK have ISK reimbursed? (to reset where the ISK was from, especially if the ISK generating activity was legal?)
million dollar question |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:07:00 -
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Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote:The assumption that everyone seems to be making is that Pandemic Legion *bought* ISK.
Might it not be that they, in fact, sold ISK and seeing as CCP can't remove the real money they made, they simply took away from them the same amount of ISK that they sold by way of punishment?
PAN Then the question is if they are paying members who can use Titans, how are they doing that and RMTing isk? It seems either way a bit hard to put together.
Is the amount of isk removed even confirmed, or are there just tons of rumors? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Padme Amidala Naberrie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote:The assumption that everyone seems to be making is that Pandemic Legion *bought* ISK.
Might it not be that they, in fact, sold ISK and seeing as CCP can't remove the real money they made, they simply took away from them the same amount of ISK that they sold by way of punishment?
PAN Then the question is if they are paying members who can use Titans, how are they doing that and RMTing isk? It seems either way a bit hard to put together. Is the amount of isk removed even confirmed, or are there just tons of rumors?
Alt toons transferring the ISK to their mains? I know that would be pretty stupid to "risk" a main like that but the amounts involved - if the rumours are true - are so large that this may well have been going on for years and they got complacent or made mistakes.
PAN
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
293
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:11:00 -
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I sell lots of stuff on the market and in contracts everyday. If anyone has RMTed and buys stuff from me do I get "tainted isk" even through no fault of my own? It's not like I can investigate people that purchase stuff from me To the whiners :-áCCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" CCP Recurve "However, Incursions are not the biggest ISK faucet, bounties are"
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Sunviking
The Shining Knights
24
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Posted - 2012.04.01 21:15:00 -
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It will be interesting to see if Darkside is going to get hit. |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:01:00 -
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interesting
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/rlbof/so_who_lost_the_most_isk_today/ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
397
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:15:00 -
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Padme Amidala Naberrie wrote: Alt toons transferring the ISK to their mains? I know that would be pretty stupid to "risk" a main like that but the amounts involved - if the rumours are true - are so large that this may well have been going on for years and they got complacent or made mistakes.
Maybe. Who knows except CCP... or even them, since they have apparently gotten some false positives.
My own wallet character recently passed about 2 billion for Game Time cards to my two other alt accounts, but that's really nothing at all (and they spam it back with all the ratting money). A few billions probably wouldn't cause them to trigger an RMT investigation. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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AV Taron
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:18:00 -
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Kaldaine wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Kaldaine wrote:Kaldaine wrote:I can confirm that Goonswarm was not affected by this. Noone in the alliance RMT's. Goonswarm has strict policies against RMTing with zero tolerance policies. Please, no trolling or unsupported false accusations. lol I caught a Goon asking for no trolling or unsupported false accusations lol Does that mean he has to put 25 ISK into the swear jar? There is no need for ad hominem attacks here, please keep it respectful. This should be a place for civil discourse where noone should be afraid to post with their mains just because they are in a certain alliance or corp.
I just have one question here. Could you have made your reply more pompous in any way? And a goon asking to keep things respectful? Don't break character and go all pompous and climb up onto your seat high up on your might horse, because if you look really really closely you'll find it's just a rather sickly donkey that could collapse under you without any warning whatsoever. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
971
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:18:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Rumour has it alts post shite on the forums.
[sarcasm]
You don't need an alt to do it.
[/sarcasm]
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
397
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:20:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Rumour has it alts post shite on the forums. [sarcasm] You don't need an alt to do it. [/sarcasm] That makes sense.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
512
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:20:00 -
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Yah... $400,000.00+ US in isk reclaimed... that's gotta be some kind of interwebs record, right?
One time I wanted to spell out my name in giant cans over a station I frequented. I finally got it done, and a GM let me know about can spam. It took me another day to take them all down. Never a word about the isk I transfer in between my characters though... I think whatever the grounds for the confiscation of ISK were, they were probably sound. The few times I've been petitioned against and lost, the GMs went way out of their way to explain what I did in detail, why it broke the rules, and even modified the EvE Wiki on one occasion to make the rules clear (that was a real 'grey area' situation). With something this big... I just can't see this being a case of mistaken identity or whatever.
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Max Ludovic
JASTA 1
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:38:00 -
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Kaldaine wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Kaldaine wrote:Kaldaine wrote:I can confirm that Goonswarm was not affected by this. Noone in the alliance RMT's. Goonswarm has strict policies against RMTing with zero tolerance policies. Please, no trolling or unsupported false accusations. lol I caught a Goon asking for no trolling or unsupported false accusations lol Does that mean he has to put 25 ISK into the swear jar? There is no need for ad hominem attacks here, please keep it respectful. This should be a place for civil discourse where noone should be afraid to post with their mains just because they are in a certain alliance or corp.
Agreed. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
971
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Posted - 2012.04.01 22:40:00 -
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Joe Skellington wrote:Wow, heads are rolling with big Alliances. Amazing.
Funny, thought that only high sec carebears were using bots in high sec. But even if it was true, how can you do so much trillions of isk out of high sec?
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2012.04.01 23:29:00 -
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Pretty weak for an April Fools joke.
It's almost predictable. Is their a fill in the blank form for these now?
"OMG U GUYS!! PL Just lost ____ isk because of _____. I know it's for real serious because ______ ragequit on their IRC."
I will give a 2/10 for getting the GMs in on the joke though |
Joss56
Kernel of War Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.04.01 23:51:00 -
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Seshzan wrote:I see this statement thrown around alot but i fail to see how it proves goons immunity to corruption ?
just as a quick example they must do 1,000's of ship replacements weekly ? monthly ?
I don't see the point of boting when:
I can pvp all day long 24/7, loose ships all day long my alliance reimbursement program always covers my losses. With this kind of program, that is some sort of re distribution of alliance benefits, you should start figuring out that 1K number of weekly reimbursements is way behind the truth.
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Kaldaine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.04.02 02:24:00 -
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AV Taron wrote:Kaldaine wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Kaldaine wrote:Kaldaine wrote:I can confirm that Goonswarm was not affected by this. Noone in the alliance RMT's. Goonswarm has strict policies against RMTing with zero tolerance policies. Please, no trolling or unsupported false accusations. lol I caught a Goon asking for no trolling or unsupported false accusations lol Does that mean he has to put 25 ISK into the swear jar? There is no need for ad hominem attacks here, please keep it respectful. This should be a place for civil discourse where noone should be afraid to post with their mains just because they are in a certain alliance or corp. I just have one question here. Could you have made your reply more pompous in any way? And a goon asking to keep things respectful? Don't break character and go all pompous and climb up onto your seat high up on your might horse, because if you look really really closely you'll find it's just a rather sickly donkey that could collapse under you without any warning whatsoever.
I am sorry that my full sentences and complete words with the use of the shift key offend you but I enjoy the written word too much to butcher it even on these forums. I dont own a horse so please keep the conversation relevant to the op instead of my many failings or lack thereof. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
121
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Posted - 2012.04.02 03:15:00 -
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Kaldaine wrote: There is no need for ad hominem attacks here, please keep it respectful. This should be a place for civil discourse where noone should be afraid to post with their mains just because they are in a certain alliance or corp.
Can I at least try a strawman arguement to properly completment my ad hominem attacks? Civility goes out the window when you've got the Goons posting when they're out of their depth and have no other recourse but to plough into you with walls of text shouting... but I digress. Still having fun though While I too have never owned a horse I have ridden one into the sunset before. Sooo happy trails to you... until we meeet in NULL sec again... And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell, Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,That this foul deed... -á |
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Rory Orlenard
University of Caille Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.04.02 03:48:00 -
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The thread has turned into accusing Goonswarm of botting. How many of you put a cloak on a rookie ship and went to Goon space to check ?
I friggin did . Did you ? I could not care more then the width of a hair on a raccoons arse about goons but i hunt bots - i found active players who responded by hunting me. I didn't find bots.
You better have some talk that includes words showing you know how to hunt bots before i take a word of your drivel serious.
I care nothing for 0.0 alliances - they are all jerks who can't tell an honest application when they see one and instead accept spies cause the spies know what to say but I found no bots in goon space. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
431
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Posted - 2012.04.02 04:07:00 -
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Rory Orlenard wrote:The thread has turned into accusing Goonswarm of botting. How many of you put a cloak on a rookie ship and went to Goon space to check ?
I friggin did . Did you ? I could not care more then the width of a hair on a raccoons arse about goons but i hunt bots - i found active players who responded by hunting me. I didn't find bots.
You better have some talk that includes words showing you know how to hunt bots before i take a word of your drivel serious.
I care nothing for 0.0 alliances - they are all jerks who can't tell an honest application when they see one and instead accept spies cause the spies know what to say but I found no bots in goon space. Hehe, I actually ratted my sec status back up in goon space. One of them even challenged me to a 1v1 in a drake, versus my shield cane. He was good to his word, no blobbing or help from other goons. The fight ended with him killing my ECM drones, getting me down to low shield but he couldn't stay in range to hold point on me. Thing is though, I was willing to die, he actually stopped firing and let me go back to ratting
Anyway, moral of story, personally I think the goons are unnecessarily vilified. After bowling about in their space for a few days, just jumping system to system killing a BS rat, I found that even those in the fleets that formed to kill me were pretty nice guys.
And they certainly didn't PvP like a bunch of botters either
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
107
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Posted - 2012.04.02 05:18:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:
UGH BEATEN BY SREEGS *SHAKES FIST*
That's hawt. Will trade ISK for video.
BC4CSM
Malcanis for CSM |
Ralnik
Mutineers
15
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Posted - 2012.04.02 07:48:00 -
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Kossaw wrote:As per CCP rules, we can't discuss any reasons why Shamis might have been banned.
Pallidum Treponema wrote:I
For all we know, this could have perfectly reasonable explanations.
Of course it's April 1st.. |
Stragak
Mangi Consilii S E D I T I O N
8
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Posted - 2012.04.02 08:22:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:2D34DLY4U wrote:Kytoth wrote:Do you really think they manually looked at alliances/corps/chars? I'm pretty sure they ran some DB script looking for suspicious transfers, which are pretty hard to define, and then just removed all the isk said script flagged / banned flagged accounts. IF this is the way they did it then I am very much against this crap. Large alliances with thousands of active people selling ships, contracts and all sorts of services cannot be suddenly hammered to the ground with huge negative isk accounts because some people used rmt isk to buy stuff from them and some dev is using a dumb db script. As much as I support Sreegs efforts to clean the world from rmt if this is the way it is done we are harming people that play the game instead of harming those that cheat. In a sense it is an even worse way for the cheaters to destroy the game if they are able to provoke this kind of random havoc. I would expect someone HUMAN and WITH A BRAIN to look closely at the list of bannable accounts that comes out of these scripts and THINK FOR THIRTY SECONDS about implications and trying to understand WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. CCP should investigate stuff, not randomly ban people. I may be wrong but if I have to choose between Shamis being a cheater and Sreegs being trigger happy and dumb, I'll go with the one that has more Alliance Tournament wins. There's some love for the game right there. CCP seems to take matters like this pretty seriously. I think you can safely assume that any implicating data generated would be investigated before penalties were assessed. I hope this was a troll..... CCP has ignored it for years, now they suddenly start banning? Interesting timing don't you think? When did they spend 10 minutes addressing it the past? Just after they get mud in their face due to their favorite Bee having a senior moment in front of the camera. So...not only is the Hive trying Brute-force metagaming, but CCP is gonna give it a try too? "CCP, I know, lets out one of the big RMT groups so that we can deflect attention away from our abject foolishness at backing a failed leader" I can't decide which of the trolls in these quotes I like better.
Man I never liked popcorn till now I hardly laugh in RL. Paying attention to the forums for a change has been the best move EVER.
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baltec1
1004
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Posted - 2012.04.02 08:46:00 -
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Ralnik wrote:
Of course it's April 1st..
#1Posted: 2012.03.31 01:03 | Report
Yea, next excuse? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3216
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Posted - 2012.04.02 09:13:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Joe Skellington wrote:Wow, heads are rolling with big Alliances. Amazing. Funny, thought that only high sec carebears were using bots in high sec. But even if it was true, how can you do so much trillions of isk out of high sec?
Missionbots.
One nullsec region can support maybe 2 bots per system, but usually just 1. A busy mission hub system can easily support 100 bots - and it's easy to see that many of them do so if you go and look at sdfadfg1, sdfadfg2, sdfadfg3, sdfadfg4, sdfadfg5, sdfadfg6 and of course their good buddy sdfadfg7 undocking Tengus in sequence. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
El Geo
Pathfinders. Mining For Profit Alliance
10
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Posted - 2012.04.02 12:58:00 -
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i think alot of people are getting confused with botting (the use of programs/scripts to run a character) and RMT (the buying OR selling of isk for real cash) |
2D34DLY4U
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.02 13:33:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:[SNIPALOT]
I can't decide which of the trolls in these quotes I like better.
Likes received: 0
Did I lose? |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
150
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Posted - 2012.04.02 13:52:00 -
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Rory Orlenard wrote:The thread has turned into accusing Goonswarm of botting. How many of you put a cloak on a rookie ship and went to Goon space to check ?
The several times I went there I found..Nothing no one on during my normal TZ it was just dead space, completely empty. So no I cant say I know goons bot but I can say the sov system is flawed Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
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