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MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:31:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 U MAD goonie tears are the best bra Why lie and cause all of this drama? Are you trying to deflect from your horrible act of egging on someone towards their suicide in RL? All of you supported durpmittens actions. You need to lighten up Francis. You reap what you sow. So you got busted being a real life troll. MOAR imaimportantgoon TARES plz 1) No one committed suicide. The only suicide we know of is RoyOfCA. 2) The Mittani's wife does not play Eve Online but nonetheless she was dragged into this by one of you pubbies and threatened to be raped AFTER Mittani's address was posted. There is no justification for threatening someone's wife at all whatsoever.
1. The fact that you get all giddy and excited over telling someone to off themselves in real life is all we need to know about you. 2. Anybody can be anything on the internet. So why lie all the time or only when its conveinent for you? 3. My po witle fweelings were hurt by the big bad internet o halp mi. 4. Nuff' Said. |
Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:32:00 -
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MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:MoyO zOlotse wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to ra pe Mittani's wife after his address was posted. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to ra pe his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. https://twitter.com/#!/LiangNuren/status/185924104279425024 U MAD goonie tears are the best bra Why lie and cause all of this drama? Are you trying to deflect from your horrible act of egging on someone towards their suicide in RL? All of you supported durpmittens actions. You need to lighten up Francis. You reap what you sow. So you got busted being a real life troll. MOAR imaimportantgoon TARES plz 1) No one committed suicide. The only suicide we know of is RoyOfCA. 2) The Mittani's wife does not play Eve Online but nonetheless she was dragged into this by one of you pubbies and threatened to be raped AFTER Mittani's address was posted. There is no justification for threatening someone's wife at all whatsoever. 1. The fact that you get all giddy and excited over telling someone to off themselves in real life is all we need to know about you. 2. Anybody can be anything on the internet. So why lie all the time or only when its conveinent for you? 3. My po witle fweelings were hurt by the big bad internet o halp mi. 4. Nuff' Said. You are worse than pubbie trash. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:35:00 -
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MoyO zOlotse wrote:1. The fact that you get all giddy and excited over telling someone to off themselves in real life is all we need to know about you. 2. Anybody can be anything on the internet. So why lie all the time or only when its conveinent for you? 3. My po witle fweelings were hurt by the big bad internet o halp mi. 4. Nuff' Said.
so you approve of dropping people's home addresses and making RL threats towards them and theirs? "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |
Townsend Harris
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
124
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:36:00 -
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Mass Attack wrote:
I'm obviously still working up to your grand master level of idiocy.
An address was posted. Did you drive by and see who lived there? Have you done any due diligence to confirm that it actually is his address? If it is his address.... who most readily has that address? Oh, that's right, HE most readily has that address.... who has the most to gain by something like this being said.. who exactly gains support by things going this far off the deep end... who is that again? Oh yeah, that's right, the guy who started all of this in the first place. So. Lets see, does it make more sense to me that the guy who has at no point ever doing anything to indicate he has any morals would set up a false event in order to discredit the justifiable anger against him for his behavior regarding making someone kill themselves... or the people who have a moral compass that points in such a direction as to actually be angry about it instead going nuts and saying OMGZ lets **** his wife.
yeah, a bunch of people who are angry about RL consequences are going to suddenly flip positions and want to do something like that. Get a grip. Quit being so easy to manipulate.
Did you confirm that the alleged suicidal player was in fact suicidal? Have you confirmed that the person who sent the mail is the same person still logging in NOW? I doubt it would be hard for people to figure out where Mittani lives given that A- They know his real name and B- The general Area where he lives. Its made simpler by the fact that he has an unusual last name. But still due diligence? Who here did due diligence before setting out on a crusade against the Mittani? Not a single one of you. No One. I mean if we want to go down this road, then sure lets speculate who had the most to gain by getting Mittani off the CSM? Maybe it would be the CSM member who's practically gloating that he's gone? Hmmmm |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
746
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:40:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani
Take away the people who do not like him for his cyber bullying at fanfest and you will find the exact same people who hated him before hate him now. It is not like the player population got together at some secret meeting at some old abandoned donut factor to plot against him out of the blue.
Grant Wyberious wrote:anything is fair game against him?
As long as it stays within the Magic Circle, yes.
Grant Wyberious wrote:On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
REPORT IT! That is the same line your leader crossed at fanfest. Whoever said that deserves a ban as well.
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Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
746
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:40:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad!
**** yeah it is bad!
Grant Wyberious wrote:But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay?
Of course it is not OK and please stop trying to gain sympathy for what mittens did earlier at fanfest, because someone threatened him today. It in no way dilutes what he did.
Grant Wyberious wrote:This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM.
It should have never been started. By anyone.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
626
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:40:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote: I mean if we want to go down this road, then sure lets speculate who had the most to gain by getting Mittani off the CSM? Maybe it would be the CSM member who's practically gloating that he's gone? Hmmmm
Confirming Darius III slipped alcohol into the CSM's drinks so that Mittani would disgrace himself and to acquire sexually compromising photos of Michael Bolton's unconcious body for future blackmailing. |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
746
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:42:00 -
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I do love how everyone assumes he had to have been drunk for that panel and Q&A after...
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Grant Wyberious
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:42:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Grant Wyberious wrote:Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Encouraging suicide while drunk is bad! **** yeah it is bad! Grant Wyberious wrote:But posting personal information of The Mittani specifically his home address and threatening to rape his wife on Eve Radio is 100% okay? Of course it is not OK and please stop trying to gain sympathy for what mittens earlier, because someone threatened him today. It in no way dilutes what he did at fanfest. Grant Wyberious wrote:This should have stopped when you guys got what you wanted which was him off the CSM. It should have never been started. By anyone. I'm sorry. He owned up to the fact and apologize, gave up his seat, got banned for 30 days. Then he gets a threat against his wife after the fact? You are worse than pubbie scum and I hope you never marry. |
Prince Kobol
464
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:43:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Confirming Darius III slipped alcohol into the CSM's drinks so that Mittani would disgrace himself and to acquire sexually compromising photos of Michael Bolton's unconcious body for future blackmailing.
I throw up a little when I read this.
Any image of Michael Bolton is bad but of him.. oh god I just threw up again |
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Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:44:00 -
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Two wrongs make aright? Hell NO!
It just seems that EVERYONE or most folks have thrown their ETHICAL behavior out the window. yeah i am enjoying te GOON tears but there is a very fine line that has been crossed. folks feeding the goons...goons feedings everyone so there can be a huge DRAMA LAMA floating in space in Jita.
Granted Mit has brought alot on himself from his actions from the FANFEST but threatening sexual assault on another is just wrong so many laws broken over the thing he said to get himself temp banned and off the CSM and with the threat on his wife i would not be suprised if he leaves the game now. yeah i know many like the idea but hell he is fun to have around to poke at every now an then
Things are spinning way out of control all of folks are acting like junior school drama QUEENS. i thought there was a minimum age requirement but many of you are acting more like your shoe size then your age. Just get back to trying to enjoy the game and watch GOON implode on itself.
For any who keep in contact with Mittans pleaase pass on that there are some who do not wish ill harm come to him or his family. take the time to sit back and re examine things |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:44:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:REPORT IT! That is the same line your leader crossed at fanfest. Whoever said that deserves a ban as well.
Not really, somebody decided to just "one-up" him, and then some. "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |
Anela Cistine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:46:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Mittens has worked hard to get, and deserves all the ridicule and stick he gets ingame.
The key word is 'ingame'.
Any sort of threat to him in real life should be reported to the appropriate authorities.
At least keep the threats directed toward him, not non-eve playing women and/or dogs that happen to live with him. What, he's not good enough to ****? A baby-faced metrosexual like him could well be a better bet than his unknown, unseen wife. He's in his 30s, but if you shave off the stupid little beard and he could pass for 17. I hear he does yoga too, so he's probably pretty limber for a man his age. Supple.
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Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:48:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Now that you pubbies have basically declared an all out war against The Mittani, anything is fair game against him? On Eve-Radio, someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted. That's because we LOVE her.
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MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:49:00 -
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Look at all these guunie haters, pubbie this pubbie that, pubbie with a whiffle ball batt.
News at O'eleven: Goon caught being Goon - crais moar about itz through sycophants.
Fails to garner the required sympathy.
Expect moar crais of pubbie boo to the hoo.
P.S. Why do you goons support someone offing themselves in real life?
Forget common decency, do you want a soul? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:51:00 -
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look at these hypocrites ^^ "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |
killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:52:00 -
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any one order a butt hurt goon extra crispy with extra tears on the side huh? |
Korah Arnelle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:54:00 -
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If it's true, it doesn't surprise me. Why? Because in all my years of being online I've seen idiotic statements made all over in every multi-user platform. Hell, I'll admit I've sent a death threat when I was a teenager to someone that really rubbed me the wrong way, but now that I'm adult I realize such things are unnecessary and generally a sign of some mental instability at worse or immaturity at best.
It just seems the lesson Mittani taught us all by his own screwup and apology hasn't sunk in the heads of others. I can't say why other than people's hatred for goons, which doesn't surprise me that emotion is overriding people's better natures. And honestly, I'm no fan of goons either, but when taking an accounting of one action of one man (Mittani) the group he represents can be disregarded since it does not reflect on the man's character or motivations (guilt by association has no place in a civil society). Simply put, acting more douchey than Mittani did won't make your actions right. In fact, it just makes you a joke in my book. |
Prince Kobol
465
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Posted - 2012.03.31 08:57:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:look at these hypocrites ^^
seriously go look at yourselves in a mirror
I did and noticed a grey hair in my beard, I cried a little |
Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:09:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:someone's threatened to rape Mittani's wife after his address was posted.
Is she pretty?
Pic? |
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Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:09:00 -
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Townsend Harris wrote: But still due diligence? Who here did due diligence before setting out on a crusade against the Mittani? Not a single one of you. No One.
Your games of attempted equivalency are ingenious but really quite disgusting. The claim that no one should ever publicly point out genuine bad behaviour because some nut-case might make RL threats to the badly behaving individual is clearly bullshit and would preclude any newspaper ever publishing any article in which they report someone doing something wrong.
The idea that because pointing out such behaviour may mean that nut-cases read about it then implies that pointing out said behaviour is morally equivalent to actively encouraging horrible behaviour is really pretty feeble and doesn't stand a moment's scrutiny. Your terrible implicit argument is based on a failure to distinguish between reasons for making information public when it is precisely the reasons, and context, for making that information public that are at issue.
Of course, CCP did absolutely the right thing if they instantly banned the guy who made the threats but trying to shift moral responsibility for his actions onto anyone who criticised the Mittani is completely invalid. I would also indicate that, given the depths I have seen goons go to over the last week to justify their leader's behaviour I now have little doubt that they would happily stage such an incident, so I find that I have to suspend judgement about whether any real incident occurred. It would be easier to believe it had done if the Mittani had not announced his intent to make the gaming media who sullied his good name with slurs like 'cyber-bully' pay for their actions. Unfortunatelly, in the context of an explicit campaign to control the media this just looks like the kind of play that goons would make.
Quote:(7:03:21 PM) [email protected]/directorbot: RAGE: My people, Brendan Drain of Massively - who forced CCP's hand in banning me by lying and referring to me as a 'Cyber Bully' - has announced that he will 'apologize' for his senationalist gutter journalism. But I doubt that he will actually own his mistakes to the point of editing the offending lines in his past articles, a classic shlock journo move, the 'buried retraction'. Tonight, as we burn Tenal, I will be going on Eve Radio to discuss lynch mob that Brendan Drain has jinned up with his shameful desire to churn hits on his unpopular column. We will be mobilizing the entire Clusterfuck into a media campaign to fight back against this lazy, cut&paste 'gaming media'. While this may seem to be about me alone, it impacts every single one of us - in the eyes of these 'journalists' who do not play EVE, everything that takes place here - nonconsensual, consequential PVP - is 'bullying'. If we are to keep CCP from being forced by outside pressure to turn EVE into Hello Kitty Online, it is up to us to go on the offensive against the media themselves. *** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
How convenient that a lynch-mob should dramatically appear at just this moment. |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
495
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:18:00 -
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Actually, in the U.S., any time a newspaper prints a story about anyone who's commited a crime, they themselves have met the criteria for libel. To libel someone you print something that affects their standing in their community, and on their job. Say Joe Blow robbed a bank, guess what? Thing is, they have a defense...absent malice. So....
I would like to get serious here for once...and you thought I was serious all along...ye the easily bamboozled. When a group of people make it a point to regale themselves with a reputation of sordid, dishonest and virtual (digital) barbaric behavior, then they come out and expect to have some sort of even-handed fairness applied to them, it's more than just laughable.
On top of that, because scamming, lying, cheating and stealing are the admitted hallmarks of this particular group in question, I find it impossible to believe anything they say about anything. As far as I know this entire "scandal" is a put-up job by the Goons themselves as they suck wind trying to regain their bad boy reputations so recently stained by @$$hat behavior.
This may have actually happened, what the OP claims. But, that's too bad. We have to take his word for it. Videos and broadcasts can be staged, edited, photoshopped...we have to take a Goonfan's word for it. Guess what? Fogettaboutit. Ain't gonna happen. I wouldn't believe a Goon if he said my name is Serene Repose. I'd have to check the label in my shirt.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
moskowitz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:19:00 -
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Grant
if your point is..... because of all this Mittani is the victim. You are a sick fanboy. If someone made threats to Mittani's wife....the authorities should deal with it appropriately. To ensue that we all made Mittani a victim (and or condone ****) because he tried to crack a joke (that could have resulted in damage) is a a feeble attempt to make light of carelessness that should not be tolerated.
to use that example to plead your case is disgusting. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
163
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:22:00 -
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Grant Wyberious wrote:Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Disclaimer: I absolutely do not approve of threatening anyone in RL, not even "as a joke", and hope anyone who does anything like that gets permabanned immediately, I do not even approve of pointing and laughing at people in the game in order to make them bad in RL, and I do not approve of the recent Mittani-bashing threads that have popped up. Any behavior the sole purpose of which is to "harvest tears" (and those are always RL tears, no matter how much you say "it is just a game") is deplorable, regardless of target and how much they deserve it.
But that said, a Goon asking "Is this what Eve Online has degraded to?" is mind-boggling. You folks have tried for years to deliberately degrade EVE, to make it about pointing and laughing, and you have stepped across civil behavior lines repeatedly by e.g. circulating private evemail from people who appear RL hurt, even suicidal. How can you now be indignant that you have actually succeeded, and beyond what you hoped? Did you honestly think that if you encourage human beings to bring out the worst in themselves and go further and further in being tough assholes, you suddenly can stop the development when it suits you? Did you honestly think that when you feel that things are now assholish enough, people will telepathically notice and stop going further?
That's not how it works. If you encourage people to "ruin the game for you", "harvest tears", "make them ragequit", etc, it will become a competition in which someone will always go one step further. Maybe in your head there always was a limit to it. Maybe you believed that people knew what it was. But people are not like that. If you encourage them to be mean, they will be mean. And some day they might very well be meaner than you liked. "I never meant it to go this far" won't help then, if you never explicitly spoke of the limits or encouraged a culture where it was ok to admit that well, really, we are not such bad guys, I really did feel bad blowing up that ship.
As sad as it is, you lie in the bed you made. So you're saying that the threat against external factors are the consequences of our actions and are justified? No. Absolutely not. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
1134
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Posted - 2012.03.31 10:37:00 -
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Ladies and Gentlemen - enough is enough.
If you think that you can target players in this community with real life threats or engage in any sort of hate campaign then I assure you that our actions will be swift and final.
The GM's on duty have taken action and did so very quickly. We would encourage players to submit a petition in cases like this so that we are aware of the situation as soon as possible.
This thread will also be locked with the primary reason that those trying to twist this situation for their own agenda is resulting in mass trolling and flaming. CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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