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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
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Posted - 2011.09.11 15:09:00 -
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Weeks ago Fuzzy Logec CEO Nekumi negotiated with Akara Ito of the Goonswarm Federation and believed that she had "bought 3JN9-Q, O-2RNZ and AGG-NRGÇ¥ for 30bn ISK and an agreement to supply Goonswarm with a number of capital ships per month.
Goonswarm had even offered Nekumi an escort fleet to keep Fuzzy Logec's capital production equipment secure. Fuzzy Logec jumped into EC-P8R from Torrinos, where they were met by their "escort" and summarily destroyed. Referencing an alleged lack of discipline in Goonswarm fleets, Akara Ito noted that GÇ£Everybody remembered not to shoot the first neutral appearing and we held our fire until the very last freighter was trapped.GÇ¥ Nekumi estimated Fuzzy Logec's losses at 8 freighters and 2 Orcas, all full of equipment.
After the rout, Akara claimed that Goonswarm faced an internal issue, with pilots dropping from the fleet to loot wrecks away from the eyes of their FC. Facing this insubordination, Akara Ito says "blues were shot at." While some pilots still managed to loot and escape unlogged, Akara notes two Chimera BPOs as some of the higher value items captured.
Nekumi said she knew very well of GoonswarmGÇÖs reputation but believed the deal to be fair. Her alliance is still seeking an agreement for ownership of a few nullsec systems, saying GÇ£If [anyone] needs an alliance who build caps (if theyGÇÖre used to kill Goons, they're cheaper), we just need a few nice quiet systems.GÇ¥
Akara Ito commented GÇ£I'd sell systems anytime.GÇ¥
i only have a couple of questions about this.
1-Why would gooswarm do this?, are they all complete scumbags, or was there a strategic reason to do this? ( i dont know i am asking)
2-is the Mittani the leader of Goonswarm? (last i heard......) and if so was this done with his aproval? is this the kind of leader CSM needs.......?
if there were strategic reasons i would love to hear them, nothing to do with me but i am curious........
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Sader Rykane
The Dark Space Initiative Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.11 15:32:00 -
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As much as Goons love to be douche bags, wouldn't it have been in their interest to let these people have the system?
Short term payout vs long term gain and all that jazz. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.11 15:34:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:1-Why would gooswarm do this? They got a couple of nice drops, a few massive-ISK killmails, and tons of fun. What more reason do you need?
Quote:2-is the Mittani the leader of Goonswarm? In much the same way as you GǣleadGǥ your catsGǪ
Quote:is this the kind of leader CSM needs.......? Yes. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.09.11 15:58:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: 1-Why would gooswarm do this?, are they all complete scumbags, or was there a strategic reason to do this? ( i dont know i am asking)
Why not. I would. If someone was dumb enough to fall for my "Come rent some nullsec systems" spiel, I'd squeeze them for every penny I could get away with.
cyllan anassan wrote: 2-is the Mittani the leader of Goonswarm? (last i heard......) and if so was this done with his aproval? is this the kind of leader CSM needs.......?
"Yes", "yes", and "there are a great many things amiss with The Mittani's chairmanship of the CSM, but condoning scamming is far from being one of them"
cyllan anassan wrote: if there were strategic reasons i would love to hear them
ISK, killmails, lulz. Any or all of the above. |
Nicholai Sanse
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.11 16:17:00 -
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It's goons, their own fault for expecting anything less. |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
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Posted - 2011.09.11 16:52:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:Weeks ago Fuzzy Logec CEO Nekumi negotiated with Akara Ito of the Goonswarm Federation and believed that she had "bought 3JN9-Q, O-2RNZ and AGG-NRGÇ¥ for 30bn ISK and an agreement to supply Goonswarm with a number of capital ships per month.
Goonswarm had even offered Nekumi an escort fleet to keep Fuzzy Logec's capital production equipment secure. Fuzzy Logec jumped into EC-P8R from Torrinos, where they were met by their "escort" and summarily destroyed. Referencing an alleged lack of discipline in Goonswarm fleets, Akara Ito noted that GÇ£Everybody remembered not to shoot the first neutral appearing and we held our fire until the very last freighter was trapped.GÇ¥ Nekumi estimated Fuzzy Logec's losses at 8 freighters and 2 Orcas, all full of equipment.
After the rout, Akara claimed that Goonswarm faced an internal issue, with pilots dropping from the fleet to loot wrecks away from the eyes of their FC. Facing this insubordination, Akara Ito says "blues were shot at." While some pilots still managed to loot and escape unlogged, Akara notes two Chimera BPOs as some of the higher value items captured.
Nekumi said she knew very well of GoonswarmGÇÖs reputation but believed the deal to be fair. Her alliance is still seeking an agreement for ownership of a few nullsec systems, saying GÇ£If [anyone] needs an alliance who build caps (if theyGÇÖre used to kill Goons, they're cheaper), we just need a few nice quiet systems.GÇ¥
Akara Ito commented GÇ£I'd sell systems anytime.GÇ¥
i only have a couple of questions about this.
1-Why would gooswarm do this?, are they all complete scumbags, or was there a strategic reason to do this? ( i dont know i am asking)
2-is the Mittani the leader of Goonswarm? (last i heard......) and if so was this done with his aproval? is this the kind of leader CSM needs.......?
if there were strategic reasons i would love to hear them, nothing to do with me but i am curious........
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
How clueless and stupid can people be. This has been a running scam FOR YEARS |
Tenchi Sal
DeathStar Systems
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Posted - 2011.09.11 17:14:00 -
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this is also a good example why a lot of corps stay up in high sec. 95% of 0.0 rent ads are just that...scams. i can gurantee you if the bigger alliances actually kept their word on space, a lot more people would move into 0.0. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.11 17:42:00 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:this is also a good example why a lot of corps stay up in high sec. Because they're silly enough to fall for something as blatantly obvious?
Quote:95% of 0.0 rent ads are just that...scams. Fixed. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Riggs Droput
Mad Bombers Guns and Alcohol
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Posted - 2011.09.11 17:50:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:
1-Why would gooswarm do this?, are they all complete scumbags, or was there a strategic reason to do this? ( i dont know i am asking)
2-is the Mittani the leader of Goonswarm? (last i heard......) and if so was this done with his aproval? is this the kind of leader CSM needs.......?
if there were strategic reasons i would love to hear them, nothing to do with me but i am curious........
1- So your saying if you had the chance to possibly make a pile of isk by getting a freighter convoy to jump into your space you wouldn't take the opportunity? When the opportunity arises to make isk most pilots I know will take it and run with it. Scamming is just part of the larger EVE game play and it is one of the parts of the game that makes the best stories.
2- I cannot speak for how Goonswarm works, but from what I know Mittani is the leader but they are Goons. To see how the goons work just look at their previous leader who closed their alliance before. Its how Goons are and it makes some of the best tears and stories. Personally I applaud them for how they are. They make the game interesting and the stories that come from what they do is what brings people to EVE.
Every game needs a villain and right now it seems they are quite content to play that part in the EVE universe. (Just remember that its a matter of perspective on who you see as the villain.)
Riggs |
Ikka Sunto
Bedlam Boys
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Posted - 2011.09.11 20:16:00 -
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If Fuzzy Logec was stupid enough to trust Goons, they deserve to lose all the ships and loot they did. It'd be even better if the goons managed to collect the 30 bil for selling the systems as well. I can't believe that the CEO of any corp would trust the Goons, Goons only, barely, trust and respect each other. They are notorious for scamming anyone and everyone they can. Live and learn Fuzzy Logec. |
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.09.12 00:44:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:Nekumi estimated Fuzzy Logec's losses at 8 freighters and 2 Orcas, all full of equipment. "Estimated"? So they're not even sure themselves how many freighters they lost? Pretty poor math skills for someone who claims to be an industrial alliance. |
Tikera Tissant
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Posted - 2011.09.12 06:12:00 -
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I'm not sure if this is the right sub-forum of this thread, but I guess more fun for a short time is better for some people than the long-run being payed option.
Thats what nice about eve. You don't really have to think long term to have fun in the game. |
cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
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Posted - 2011.09.12 06:33:00 -
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normally you screw your enemies....... there are just so many enemies you can have before they all turn against you.
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Silence iKillYouu
The Innocent Criminals
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Posted - 2011.09.12 07:45:00 -
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They pilots doing the kill were prob just scrubs. They don't get anything out of long term investments. Only leadership does.
Goons are the biggest bunch of fgts in eve. they have no honer. Atm they are recruiting everyone in eve so u gotta expect the fgt meter to go up about 100%
Mittens got elected cause he told hes thousands of members to vote for him.
They Real money trade and take advantage of bugged game mechanics like having 2 cyno jamers in 1 system. then they get raped and cry to ccp after they were admitting to taking advantage of a glitch.
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Tikera Tissant
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Posted - 2011.09.12 08:16:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:They pilots doing the kill were prob just scrubs. They don't get anything out of long term investments. Only leadership does.
Goons are the biggest bunch of fgts in eve. they have no honer. Atm they are recruiting everyone in eve so u gotta expect the fgt meter to go up about 100%
Mittens got elected cause he told hes thousands of members to vote for him.
They Real money trade and take advantage of bugged game mechanics like having 2 cyno jamers in 1 system. then they get raped and cry to ccp after they were admitting to taking advantage of a glitch.
Either a "you trollin?" or "u mad bro?" questions come to mind.
But really, people are doing the exactly same things on other corps/alliances in the game. Either by suicide killing a not-so-innocent miner, ganking in high-sec, war-dec just to **** someone off.
The goons are just playing for fun. Even if it means pissing someone off (which is how you actually make fun mostly in the game when it comes to PvP).
If you get angry or pissed too much that you need to post like this, you are in the wrong game mate.
Cheers. |
Niko Takahashi
Percone Outcasts
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Posted - 2011.09.12 14:03:00 -
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Goons
Normal mode of operation for them really. Just do not do business or fly with them. Recruiting scams and this on top of it.
Why bother>
It did not surprise me but it is underhanded.
One of the reasons you should never rent ever.
If you choose to do so even after this never ever do business with goons. It might be even legit.
And if you do and you get burned please do not post stuff like this since it just makes people laugh at you for being stupid.
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Satav
Latinum Exports
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Posted - 2011.09.12 15:28:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: 1-Why would gooswarm do this?, are they all complete scumbags, or was there a strategic reason to do this? ( i dont know i am asking)
lol. Yes. Goonswarm are a bunch of childish faggots and you can't trust them, except to stab you in the back.
I am not surprised that their own pilots acted just like their FC's and became insubordinate. |
cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
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Posted - 2011.09.12 15:59:00 -
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Ikka Sunto wrote:If Fuzzy Logec was stupid enough to trust Goons, they deserve to lose all the ships and loot they did. It'd be even better if the goons managed to collect the 30 bil for selling the systems as well. I can't believe that the CEO of any corp would trust the Goons, Goons only, barely, trust and respect each other. They are notorious for scamming anyone and everyone they can. Live and learn Fuzzy Logec.
actually they should have asked the money in advance and dont deliver it, make them pick it up themselves.......
this is beyond stupidity, by both sides actually |
Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.13 01:27:00 -
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The 30 billions had already been paid by the time everything went down. |
whaynethepain
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2011.09.13 04:46:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: GÇ£Everybody remembered not to shoot the first neutral appearing and we held our fire until the very last freighter was trapped.GÇ¥
I believe the Goons are N.B.S.I.
Has anyone got a link to the Killmail?
I looked through about 50 pages, but never came to it yet, and I long to get my hands on that beut.
Could be the biggest gate camp kill I have seen. |
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