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Avon
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 13/10/2008 23:22:50 I don't mind this change at all as my accounts have always been active, but...
..you'd better be real quick cleaning out the forums of historical CCP posts about this "feature" as it was, before you try to make out it is now a "bug".
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Avon
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 13/10/2008 23:24:21
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Avon
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:32:00 -
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Hey, your bug...
Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive
I found it in the player guide.
You guys better get in there and ninja-edit it.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Huana http://www.eve-online.com/features/
??????
Offline is not the same as inactive.
The player guide is where they mention training on inactive accounts.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 13/10/2008 23:42:32 Actually, let me change that post and just say again:
I am still all in favour of this change, I just think the PR sucks.
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Avon
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: LordSwift
No he has no life. and has nothing better to do than search the small print somewhere stating old information. Damn give them a chance to update everything.
It didn't take a great deal of effort to type "skill training inactive" in teh search box on the top right of the forums tbh.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 13/10/2008 23:54:53 Edited by: Avon on 13/10/2008 23:54:36
Originally by: Aganola posting it again just to **** them off:
http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=167
excerpt: Quote: Quote: EVE has a unique approach to character advancement. Your account has the ability to train one character at a time no matter whether you're online or not, so if you start a training session before you go to sleep it will continue its advancement in real time while you are sleeping.
The first part is unrelated to this, and so using it only weakens your arguement. It relates to skills training on active accounts while you are offline.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cosy Ceaon http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/0810/isabug.jpg is a bug is a bug a buuuuuuuuuuuuug
No need to stretch the forums about it.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Saraah Leeown Great stuff, I play eve online, not "unsubscribed skill training online" Please make sure all RP etc is stopped on an unsubscribed account to thanks.
Bye bye deadwood
End yourself.
Preferably via: ingested bleach, starving tiger sharks, sex with madeline albright.
Actually, he is right tbh. Why should people be able to gain RP, and thus ISK on accounts that they aren't paying for?
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Avon
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 14/10/2008 00:07:37
Originally by: Avon Actually, he is right tbh. Why should people be able to gain RP, and thus ISK on accounts that they aren't paying for?
I was flaming him for the first reason, see my post above. I'm all for removing passive RP gain. To summarize my expoert position: FUK DIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Oh, fairy snuff.
Personally I am happy for inactive to mean exactly that. I just think CCP are doing a terrible job of selling it.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aganola
Originally by: Idara New sig pimpage.
SHC 4tw.
Also: way to lock the other thread.
geez it's my image!! cool!
Unfortunately it is too big and breaks the forum rules.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Want to bet this hits slashdot within 40 hours?
Honestly I hope it doesn't. It would only make things worse for Eve in general tbh.
Poking CCP in here is one thing, but *out there*?
~shudders~
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2008 00:33:50
Originally by: GO MaZ I think when your damage control posts get more angry trolling than the original thread you have to ask yourselves whether you're doing the right thing
They should employ me as a damage control consultant, rather than, say..
Reasonable rates and I'll work from home, thanks.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Baron Houshay rotated
NC alt spotted.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Ubernomicon We should get BoB, NC and GS together and see how many times in a row we can crash Jita. Or better yet, just fill Jita with AFK players and not allow anyone else to enter the system.
Stupid suggestions like that really don't help, do they?
This is far more likely to be a "need" issue than a "greed" issue, but CCP can hardly turn around and say so if that is the case.
Look, they are handling this badly, but the change in itself isn't a bad one. Expecting people to pay for what they get is fair enough.
Sure I am ribbing CCP here, but don't confuse that with malicious intent.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
That was the last time they tried this. It was pulled after the patch notes thread was carpet bombed. Anyone from CCP want to keep arguing this was an unintended bug? If your search wasn't so sloppy, I'd be able to find the post where CCP rationalizes this change for EVE China because they pay by the hour or some such.
Your factual posts are good catches DC, but my Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf was much funnier.
They'll just put that down to an attempted bug fix on the test server which didn't work out.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Example : BS 5, BC 5, or any other long 30+ day skill, makes you feel like you're making zero progress, its just no fun at all.
Workaround : Take a break from Eve while training BS 5 or whatever. Shut off sub, go play BF2 for a month.
My objection to "fixing" ghost training : It makes you pay to TRAIN your character not PLAY your character, that is fundamentally wrong and too close to Korean MMO's for me, you know those Korean MMO's where you pay RL $$$ for items and skills.
I never understood that arguement to be honest. I do pay to play, and I can play perfectly well while my character is training long skills - skill training doesn't pause if I log on and undock.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Majiir Sjet All those respectable persons who posted here that they have not used ghost training before are either new to the game, jealous of other people for doing so or CCP employees...
Honestly, have you guys EVER trained a 60 day+ skill on your subbed time? I don't think so.
You think I would stop playing a 70mil+ SP character just because I am training a long skill?
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan
What we used to have is the option for players to either play while they train, like you're saying, OR to wait a little while for their next big toy and come in ready to go. Now, you HAVE to do it the way you're saying, to the detriment of those with limited means, casual players, and anyone who just prefers that playstyle.
I'm a pretty casual player (seriously), and I just keep my accounts active. If all these people saying they are going to cancel accounts are from the "limited means" group, how much revenue are CCP actually going to lose? If they are rotating accounts then it doesn't really matter how many they have, does it? Just how many they pay for at any one time.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Danny Centurai
Nope but the noob training BC V for his drake will, CCP do not care about older players they want new players.
I personally started my alt whilst training BC V out of boredem; I switched between chars as each did long skills. Lots of people did this, I honestly can see a firesale on alts coming up soon!
I just kept playing while I was training. Why wouldn't you?
Your character isn't somehow crippled while he is training a long skill. He is just as good as he was when he finished his last skill.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Leila Cross
Think big. As a group the players are more pwoerful than the devs.
CCP turns of server. End.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Idara Posting this gets you banned:
C/D?
It is more likely that advising players to kill themselves was the reason imho.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Danny Centurai
Yep if that is End players won CCP empolyees with no jobs; jumpgate evolution released we all go spaceship pew pew there.
It isn't a win for the players who wish to continue playing Eve, like me.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2008 01:32:03
Originally by: Danny Centurai
Then talk sense into CCP before EVE emo rage quits.
Nah, let them. Personally I think the move is the right one, it is just presented badly.
Inactive should mean inactive - no training, no research points, market orders frozen ... INACTIVE.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: MataSanos this is to boost BoB because, BoB already have capitals alt trained
C/D ?
D I have never broken the subscription of my capital alt.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Khwalik One thing I'm rather curious about...and I typically keep my accounts active unless by oversight I somehow miss the due date to get a GTC turned in.
Anyway last time my main expired, I couldn't post on the forums,i.e. try and get in touch with someone so I could get a GTC to turn my account back on...this being my main...well it does have the bulk of my isk in it both personal and corp. And lets say by chance I have an extended leave from EvE on both accounts. Essentially with a couple of billion sitting yet I can't post on the forums...which I assume was some effort to cut farmers out of the forums...but it is also working against actual players.....how about addressing this issue?
Create a trial account. Free and easy.
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Avon
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Trzzbk
But then there will be a ton of useless entries bogging down the DB
:Goons:
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui not too mention free trial accounts can't post on the forums :p
You don't need to.
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