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Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:27:00 -
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Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:49:00 -
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Quote: Now a single customer that doesn't log into the servers may not weigh heavily on our database infrastructure, just as a single snowflake isn't that heavy, hardly a measurable quantity. But it's hard not to notice an avalanche if it hits you. And that's what was starting to happen in our database.
Can someone please explain how an inactive account will weigh down CCP's database more than an active account? |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 00:03:00 -
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23 pages until we get a CCP response. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Leila Cross I, for one, have printed a copy of the player guide page (with the url, date, and time on the top) and stashed it away.
Quite frankly there has to be someone out there who knows a lawyer who is going to figure out a way to turn this into a "breach of contract" case. I can see it now:
"My client paid for two subscriptions based in part on the understanding that his chracter skill training would continue uninterrupted while his accounts were inactive. This understanding was reinforced by CCP's own player guide which touted this ability as a game feature. my client has been lied to, and CCP has breached the contract that my client agreed to when he initially subscribed X years ago."
CCP, I would be worried.
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Seriously, think before posting. Sure, people are upset, but to sue over this?
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:00:00 -
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Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:08:00 -
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Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 05:02:00 -
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I'm going to keep posting this until someone from CCP gives answers.
Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: Carsidava on 14/10/2008 05:44:59 31 pages and no replies from CCP. 49 pages in the other thread, and only a devblog filled with lies. I post again:
Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer.
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Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Originally by: Gregorius Decimus Calling that ex-feature "a bug" is the most craziest thing, that I've ever heard in EvE... You've deployed that feature form the begining..
Not exactly true. As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. Yes it has remained unaddressed for a long time but that doesn't make it any less of an accident.
I'm curious, before today's devblog, where was it stated that ghost training was a bug? |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather 1. You advertised this as an INTENDED FEATURE of the game... for years.
Got proof?
I'm still waiting for your proof that this is a bug. |
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Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:59:00 -
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Seventy-seven pages and no response from CCP. We're being treated like mushrooms: kept in the dark and fed bullshit. I'm going to post this again, fully realizing that CCP is ignoring us and just going to go blindly ahead with this ridiculous plan.
Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:48:00 -
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Eighty-one pages and no response from CCP. We're being treated like mushrooms: kept in the dark and fed bullshit. I'm going to post this again, fully realizing that CCP is ignoring us and just going to go blindly ahead with this ridiculous plan.
Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
Originally by: Carsidava Eighty-one pages and no response from CCP. We're being treated like mushrooms: kept in the dark and fed bullshit. I'm going to post this again, fully realizing that CCP is ignoring us and just going to go blindly ahead with this ridiculous plan.
Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer.
Theres a response saying they are monitoring this thread closely. Im sure they want to have a proper meeting tommorrow, you know, during the day time, before they make any official response.
That's garbage. They had an entire day to meet about this. These 125+ pages of protest didn't spring up in the last couple of hours. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Originally by: ViolenTUK What is relevant is that it HAS been used as a game feature and has been advertised as such.
Describing, in the player guide, the mechanism by which skill points accumulate is NOT "advertising ghost training it as a feature".
Nor does it make it a bug. Please post proof that CCP considered this a bug (in those words) before yesterday's announcements. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans The bug that became a feature
On Monday, we released news that we are disabling äGhost Trainingô, the ability to train characters on inactive accounts. This resulted in strong reactions from the community as many people were routinely making use of it. We explained the matter in more detail and pointed out that this had been a bug in the original game code. Those of us who were involved in the process of making the decision and communicating it to the community did not realize this bug had been so accepted as a feature that it was listed as such in our own documentation on our own website.
How can we not know whatæs in our own documentation? Well, to be frank, it was a case of insufficient communication on our part between various teams û a regrettable mistake and hard lesson to learn at the expense of the trust youæve placed in us. Thereæs no way to spin it and we wonæt add insult to injury by trying to do so. It was a mistake on our part and for that we sincerely and humbly apologize.
Many would hope that in light of this we will decide not to cancel ghost training and keep it active as an option but weære cannot to do that. EVE is already one-of-a-kind in allowing players to progress their characters through offline skill training. We stand by our policy that if you want your character to progress in EVE, you should pay the subscription fee. The fact that so many people have been able to do so for several years was our own oversight. We know this change, and our misstep in telling you about it, has created some discontent and we hope that over time we can prove our committment to make EVE better than ever for you will be evident as you enjoy the fruits of our labor.
Torfi
You didn't answer any of the concerns many players had. Please find someone who works at CCP who knows what goes on in the game. Clearly you're a mouthpiece.
Here's my post again, which is still amazingly relevant.
Nope, sorry. This doesn't wash.
If you disable skill training for inactive accounts, why aren't you also disabling market orders from inactive accounts? Why aren't you also disabling RP accumulation from inactive accounts? Why aren't you disabling dividend payouts to inactive accounts?
Why are only skill points being hit?
Sorry CCP, this is an entirely unsatisfactory answer. |
Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.22 02:41:00 -
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I don't know if this question has been asked or answered...
If my account goes inactive while a skill is training, does that skill automatically start training once I re-subscribe? |
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