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Flinchey
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Originally by: Gregorius Decimus Calling that ex-feature "a bug" is the most craziest thing, that I've ever heard in EvE... You've deployed that feature form the begining..
Not exactly true. As pointed out previously in this very thread this "feature" was discovered, not intended. Yes it has remained unaddressed for a long time but that doesn't make it any less of an accident.
are you stupid?
its IN THE SKILL TRAINING GUIDE ON THIS VERY WEBSITE
linked toover and over.
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Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Flinchey on 15/10/2008 10:17:08
Originally by: Freezehunter Edited by: Freezehunter on 15/10/2008 10:06:35
Originally by: Xhanti
Originally by: Aodha Khan Unlike some, I actually pay to play. I support no Ghost training!
Those that are whining. Ask yourself this, does any other MMORPG train your char while the account is disabled?
Then ask yourself does any other MMORPG have skills that take 30 or more days to get ONE lvl in?
Aodha Khan does have a valid point there, Xhanti...
Xhanti does have a valid point there, Freezehunter... |
Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Doror After reading many posts, about why this is bad, who is leaving, and what they should do to fix it. The one thats caught my eye the most is the "Skill Que System" where you can put 3-5 skills in a que to train back to back. Makes sense, and would ease the tension with a lot of the people who are over reacting and seriously blowing this change out of proportion. Even though it was announced only days before the actual change.
how would a skill queue system that lets you make up <1minute (unless you plan like a caveman) of skill training time lost between the changing of skills, make up for the removal of ghost training, which causes days, even weeks, or lost skill training time???
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Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Flinchey on 15/10/2008 20:51:30
Originally by: Colonel Doror
Originally by: Flinchey
Originally by: Colonel Doror After reading many posts, about why this is bad, who is leaving, and what they should do to fix it. The one thats caught my eye the most is the "Skill Que System" where you can put 3-5 skills in a que to train back to back. Makes sense, and would ease the tension with a lot of the people who are over reacting and seriously blowing this change out of proportion. Even though it was announced only days before the actual change.
how would a skill queue system that lets you make up <1minute (unless you plan like a caveman) of skill training time lost between the changing of skills, make up for the removal of ghost training, which causes days, even weeks, or lost skill training time???
Good question, and I have no answer for you. I have used Ghost Training myself, when I was training my cloaking. But if we can't have it in the game anymore, we might aswell look for a ok alternative to it.
Who knows though, maybe CCP will decide not to take it out, or re-release it later.
assuming from the (so-far) loss of many-thousands of dollars of future monthly revenue (in the past page alone i've probably seen 5-10 subs cancelled). and future loss of potential revenue of new players, from this being a desired feature... this wont go ahead.
as it appears CCP is doing this to draw in more revenue... im sure loss in alienating the player base is unacceptable.
Originally by: Lag Just in case anyone has missed this, Vote no (support the thread) to Ghost Training!
what is the point of a thread identical to this one.. AND the last, locked one.? |
Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Peter Greed So cancelled two accounts, decided to give Warhammer a try. Wow.
Non stop action. I love it.
Farewell guys, I'll often think fondly of my time in this game.
Hitmeup ingame for my lootz.
join the darklands server or anlec i dont care if you're not oceanic dooooo eeeeeet hit me up in game, flinchy/flinchey.. oh, and destro. dooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeet |
Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: Flinchey on 15/10/2008 20:57:56
Originally by: Lag Edited by: Lag on 15/10/2008 20:56:13
Originally by: Lag Just in case anyone has missed this, Vote no (support the thread) to Ghost Training!
what is the point of a thread identical to this one.. AND the last, locked one.?
Because it is a thread where you can actually state whether you support the op or not. CCP might actually get an idea how many people don't want the change. I think the thumbs up for leaving ghost training as is might be something a bunch of 1st graders can understand.
then its just the opposite of this thread. stating that you dont support the op. (or the very small minority that do) no? EDIT: waitno. from your description its identical to this thread... like i said. |
Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.15 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lag
Originally by: Flinchey Edited by: Flinchey on 15/10/2008 20:57:56
Originally by: Lag Edited by: Lag on 15/10/2008 20:56:13
Originally by: Lag Just in case anyone has missed this, Vote no (support the thread) to Ghost Training!
what is the point of a thread identical to this one.. AND the last, locked one.?
Because it is a thread where you can actually state whether you support the op or not. CCP might actually get an idea how many people don't want the change. I think the thumbs up for leaving ghost training as is might be something a bunch of 1st graders can understand.
then its just the opposite of this thread. stating that you dont support the op. (or the very small minority that do) no? EDIT: waitno. from your description its identical to this thread... like i said.
God you are a moron. Do you see the fekin checkbox when you reply to that post that says "Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on". Notice the damn thumbs up under people's names?
-.-
well then ahem i quite obviously am :-\ 7am and i still haven't slept. *makes excuse for stupidity and lack of spelling*
though if CCP hasn't noticed by now. with 125 pages, 95% negative. it might not doo a hellofalot. >_> |
Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Flinchey
Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Sargeant HAmmer 140 pages .... doesnt that show something?
Yes, It shows that the eve community is full of whiny, *****y cheapskates who're throwing a temper tantrum because they aren't getting their free toys NOW!!!
It also shows that people think that repeating the same 4-5 arguments over and over and over a couple thousand times makes them more valid.
Ooooooh, Did i mention it shows that the eve community is full of whiny, *****y cheapskates?
and if you didn't also notice there's at least a few hundred cancelled subscriptions it also shows that apparently the MAJORITY of the eve players are whiny *****y cheapskates
repeating the same arguments by hundreds of different people, yes, definitely makes them more valid
im sorry but, N'tek alar, you, are the minority here.
Also, a few hundred accounts is not a majority of a few hundred thousand.
Did you notice how the majority have NOT posted?
Oh and...
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Hey look! The earth is flat!
sooooo you're a business running on a subscription based system
you suddenly lose a few hundred (if not 1000+, i really haven't been keeping track) accounts on said subscription... you're going to see this loss of thousands of dollars per month of revenue and just shrug it off? or are you going to try your hardest to get that revenue back?
not to mention lots of people dont even know about it (not everyone reads the news feeds you know) i brought it up in guild chat and pretty much everyone who wasn't afk flipped out "what wtf are you talking about what? no! thats just stupid"
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Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cutesmile Edited by: Cutesmile on 17/10/2008 09:09:12 See it. Here is the fast money CCP smart guys. Falling population on server. They lost over +7k subscriber under two day. Bravo and lot of alt training not ended yet, more lost coming.
http://eve.coldfront.net/status/
can't view that picture.
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Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Flinchey on 17/10/2008 10:15:01 haHA
in all this MMO talk i've just realized out what other mmo does that is almost EXACTLY like ghost training
RESTED EXP
you dont play for a few weeks, BAM! 2 levels at double the standard experience rate
THAT is a good incentive to start playing those games again "hey i haven't played in a while.. i can level up really quickly (say half an hour instead of sometimes a couple of hours) and see what new content there is.. be a bit better in pvp" etc. etc.
take away ghost training and what is there?
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Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Welcome
Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra The incentive to come back to the game after a year or even 6 months, is not the fact that you may have trained a measly skill of 1 month (we are talking about a lv5 of a skill you already have it to lv4).
It's the fact that you know that your character still exists and is the same old one you left alongside with the game, with all his assets. Something no other MMO gives you as far as I know.
The reason one comes back is because he likes the game deep down and just got nostalgic for the people he knows through this game. All the excuses about the incentive a skill can provide to someone, who really quit the game, is just plain old bullshit.
I believe this argument is faulty. When you quit, you quit given the state of the game at that time. Existing character state, existing friends, those are already counted when you make your decision.
-vk
firstly, i say again, rested exp and if you leave any mmo other than eve for a month. you come back to (almost always) new content. yes that includes WoW (instances... skills.. talent tree rebalancing.. new arenas... thats just in regular patching). EVE stays practically in stasis day in day out (in recent times that is). it gets a little bit of new stuff once or twice a year. and even then a decent chunk of the population doesn't even utilize it.
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Flinchey
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.18 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Flinchey on 18/10/2008 16:08:57
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Gorek Loc Introduce some sort of discount for multiple account customers, and ghost training won't be an issue.
Why? Should I get refunded for having 4 full subs for the past 2-3 years as well in that case?
and was that your choice? or.. not? hm?
you're *****ing about an idea that would get YOU a discount now?
damn, people in this thread are going rabid.
EDIT: also. you lucky people paying $15 a month. im incredibly jealous
it costs me $25 AUD per month under current *beep* exchange rates... where it should be under $20 per month (in fact close to $15). ugh.
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Flinchey
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.26 07:45:00 -
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CCP introduced the queue as a sort of compensation for removing GT right?
so they could at least make sure the bloody thing is glitch free.. i've lost nearing on a full day of skill training time now due to stuffups
just another kick in the teeth eh?
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