I think you're catching on.

If EVE were really a sandbox, we "carebears" would have tools at our disposal to seek, promote, and even enforce our way of life against the brigands pounding at our doors.

The mechanics of the so-called EVE's sandbox has created a pervasive gaming culture where every foul behavior normally not condoned in the real world- short of breaking the EULA/TOS - is allowed, even encouraged. Griefing, ganking, bashing, lying, cheating, killing, mass-murdering. That's the brigand mindset that EVE has created.

There is no place for those like me that would like to create a better future by engaging in law-abiding activities. If EVE were really a sandbox, we "carebears" would have tools at our disposal to seek, promote, and even enforce our way of life against the brigands pounding at our doors.

This is an important factor to explain why EVE - after almost 10 years after launch - remains a niche game. It's a cult, a sect, a religion of a minority who mostly seek an outlet to nurture their bad side.

remains a niche game. It's a cult, a sect, a religion of a minority who mostly seek an outlet to nurture their bad side.

Makes me wonder where all these Sociopaths I keep hearing about are?

Here in the forums, where else would they be?

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Makes me wonder where all these Sociopaths I keep hearing about are?

There is no place for those like me that would like to create a better future

There are at least ten thousand of them... You know, they managed to elect the CSM chair.

Exhumers destroyed in 2011: Hulk 27,806, Mackinaw 11,669, Skiff 654. Of the 40,129 total, 11,770 were lost in PVE

52,811 mining barges destroyed in 2011. Retriever 38,102, Covetor 11,537, Procurer 3,172. 22,981 of those were lost in PVE.

More sociopaths then just the 10,000 then using same standards? So the problem is larger than the media.

The mechanics of the so-called EVE's sandbox has created a pervasive gaming culture where every foul behavior normally not condoned in the real world- short of breaking the EULA/TOS - is allowed, even encouraged. Griefing, ganking, bashing, lying, cheating, killing, mass-murdering. That's the brigand mindset that EVE has created.

"EVE is Real", advertises CCP. Recently we found out that it's actually true. We saw that a supposedly normal, decent person cannot keep separate mindsets -one good, another bad. Forcefully the bad one will prevail, and illegal acts may be perpetrated. We also saw that not even CCP is able to make a judgement call based upon the laws of the country. CCP has been promoted as the ultimate court instance and law upholder. A 30-day ban is the ultimate punishment for an illegal act commited. A private apology and monetary compensation - made virtually using in-game tools - is substitute for a real-world hearing in front of a flesh-and-bones judge.

Everyone is lacking a moral compass, including EVE's sandbox.

Yes, EVE is all about brigands. Those who excel in the art of being a bad criminal are glorified, promoted, and politically supported. This is an important factor to explain why EVE - after almost 10 years after launch - remains a niche game. It's a cult, a sect, a religion of a minority who mostly seek an outlet to nurture their bad side.

There is no place for those like me that would like to create a better future by engaging in law-abiding activities. If EVE were really a sandbox, we "carebears" would have tools at our disposal to seek, promote, and even enforce our way of life against the brigands pounding at our doors.

A brigand game - what would you expect from Icelanders descended from Vikings?

seriosuly, so much butthurt, if you knowingly go into a abd part of town where people just got robbed and murdered,a dn you egt jumped in an ally, dont whine to the cops that they should work harder, you did soemthing that put yourself in danger. and i know for a FACT that if you give them a chance, any car dealer in the WORLD would trya dn screw you oevr for a few extra bucks, its called BUSINESS.

So it's the victim's fault? Yours is the argument of a criminal.

That is 4800 Mining Craft lost to PvP a month in all sec statuses including Null Miners, Wormholes, War Targets and Can Flippers in a game of 400000.

Top tip: you do have them. People GGv or, more accurately, the carebears in question GGv just choose not to use them.

Which is 4697 larger than your reported figures which comprises 2.1% of the total picture based on your method of reckoning.

I voted for him before the incident. His platform on new content and ship balance was good.

A very small part of the CFC actually took part in the Interdiction.

In an ecomomy driven by War especially null War Goonswarm destroyed over 10000 ships this month.

Across all sec statuses here is the number of Non Combat Ships destroyed this month.

Mining barge 27
Exhumer 76
Industrial 60
Transport 40
Freighter 2
Jump Freighter 1
Cap. Industrial 0

Ten Thousand Sociopaths seemed to be to busy playing the game to make much of an impact on the 200000 High Sec Accounts. During the interdictions they manage on average 500 kills of Exhumers a month in an 8000 man corp. Expecting that a few of the pilots ganking are repeat offenders I am guessing that High Sec isn't being hit by the full force of these 10000. Almost like most of these people are average players flying around doing EVE Null Sec Stuff.

Perhaps media is blowing things slightly out of proportion.

have tools at our disposal to seek, promote, and even enforce our way of life

Which just proves that the so called problem is very small and doesn't represent the game as much as media pretends it does.