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Nagasumi
Caldari Navy Runners
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Posted - 2008.10.20 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Nagasumi on 20/10/2008 11:46:54 Hi im looking for someone to help me out here. Since i lack any form of programming skills i need to hire a skilled programmer that can aid me in a web application i need for my corporation.
Isk is no problem its just that 2 people have not followed through on the project and im becoming quite desperate to have this done.
I have a rough sketch of how i would like the application to function if it isnt possible todo or you have some improvements please feel free to comment on the subject.
Multiple users web based application.
Main Screen. Training Time Isk Wallet change from last login Number of orders currently on market and value of them Sub Menus. Market - Market orders and values of them aswell as location Assests - Total list of assests sortable by station or type with amount aswell value Corp Ass - Corporation assets information sorted by station POS - POS fuel and management aswell as any research or manufacturing going on Char info - Information of the character (such as skills, isk, LP, standings)
CEO Menu. Number of members in corp Members last logged on Total corp wealth Corp transactions Number of industry jobs going in corp name or POS
Show every corp members information as under main screen if i press their name
And i would also like to have the feature that you can watch how much isk each member has generated for the corporation should be doable via corp transaction tab.
Layout i would prefer to be easy on the eyes but not a requirement.
Leave a post here if this is anything intersteing or send me a mail ingame with cost suggestion and project time. |
Jethro Jechonias
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.20 15:13:00 -
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Would you provide hosting, or do you want the programmer to provide hosting? If you are providing hosting, what sort of environment would it be?
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Nagasumi
Caldari Navy Runners
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Posted - 2008.10.20 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Nagasumi on 20/10/2008 22:05:25 ill provide hosting.
Hosting company i currently are using is www.one.com
uncertain exactly what you mean but hopefully this should do as information http://www.one.com/en/support/guides-faq
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Johnathan Roark
Caldari Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.21 07:28:00 -
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im guessing php/mysql.
I am working on something that I intend to do most of this but as its just me and I have other projects progress is slow.
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Nagasumi
Caldari Navy Runners
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Posted - 2008.10.21 10:45:00 -
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Im willing to spend 1bill on this application.
Anyone interested ?
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Mdram
Caldari Point of No Return Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.21 13:17:00 -
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although not web based some of these options are already available or will be part of evehq, currently under development
check it out http://evehq.net When in doubt, reload and fire another clip. |
Beseiged
Minmatar Rim Collection RC Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.10.21 15:30:00 -
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I'm working on something currently which involves a bunch of those items in the plan. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
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Dragonaire
Caldari Corax.
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Posted - 2008.10.22 17:20:00 -
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Sound like everyone is doing the same thing all on our own. Guess we should see about combine resources for a common web application for corps and characters. I've been working on one using PHP/MySQL that we've been using at my corp for a few months now that does most of what he want if in a different format or form. It's somewhat staled in development now because I'm the only programmer on it. I'd welcome working with some of you on it and maybe we can combine some code and come up with something better as a group. -- Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Been known to write some PHP code for API from time to time too. |
Lumy
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.22 18:03:00 -
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Dragonaire has a good point. But the question is, who will bend over and abandon their project.
Because everybody knows that HIS project is the best.
You can have a look on MY best project here (SVN).
Joomla! in EVE - IGB compatible CMS. |
Dragonaire
Caldari Corax.
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Posted - 2008.10.22 19:07:00 -
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Don't think anyone really has to abandon a project but more that we take the best of each and work together on combining some code. I won't say mine is the best but I'm sure that part of it could be used by others and I've even released a small part of it now which you can read about in this post
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=904182
One problem I do see is where you are using a framework like Joomla I've been coding mine without any framework and using some parts of PEAR instead.
What I'd say we need is a general outline of what all of our varies tools abilities and goals are along with what its requirements are and see what common parts we could at least work on together. Maybe develop a set of classes or library of functions that would be useful to us all and not everyone reinventing the wheel ;) -- Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Been known to write some PHP code for API from time to time too. |
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Lumy
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.22 21:42:00 -
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I believe that using some kind of framework is the right way. It allows much faster development, without need of reinventing too many wheels.
I'm not sure Joomla! was the step in right direction. Maybe Cake or Zend would be better choice. But my first goal was to just create CMS for IGB. API stuff come as second.
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Dragonaire
Caldari Corax.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 00:12:00 -
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Yeah from what little I know about them I wouldn't think it was the best fit. The problem I see with any framework is you have to learn it to do something we all seem to already know how to do which is PHP ;) I think it would be great to use a framework if it helps us develop some better but in the end its going to all be PHP code and some libraries or PHP and a framework which amounts to the same thing with a different name ;) Either of the other two probably would be a better fit from what I know, but any framework we decide on would tend to force us to program in certain ways which might not be a bad thing but could be with bad pick of which one to use. Something people would have to pay for to use wouldn't work for us but that still leaves most of them. I've liked what I've seen of Cake but don't know any of them well enough to say it would work the best for even what I want to do. I've been much more focused on the code and business logic of what I'm doing then how it looks or using it with IGB which CCP has plans to replace anyway. Soon I hope ;)
Most the stuff my corp and I planned out was to improve access to the in-game stuff with a font you can actually read then take it on to something more to help you manage the corp and it's business so the directors and CEO had more time to play and not burn out doing corp stuff all the time. I'll say we're about half way to doing that last part now. It helps but not as much as it could yet. -- Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Been known to write some PHP code for API from time to time too. |
Dragonaire
Caldari Corax.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 06:13:00 -
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Ok got to think about how to show what I've been working on without showing any of our live data and still give you a little feel for it too. Best outline I could think of was the nav from it with just the index page showing :) You can download it from:
http://eve-files.com/dl/176288 OR http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Dragonaire/EMT-index.php.zip -- Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Been known to write some PHP code for API from time to time too. |
Johnathan Roark
Caldari Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.23 08:05:00 -
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I dont really care for frameworks either. Too restrictive.
As far as how much we are overlapping, a lot. I've seen what Besiged has been working on a while back. Between your image, what have started/planned, and what i've seen of Besiged's project, I think there is some overlapping. I think a coordinated joint project would bring a very useful and fine tool to the community.
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woddel
Gallente CH Manufacturing and Trading
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:42:00 -
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howdy
my project 'eve commander' (www.eve-commander.com) has most of these features (currently serving more than 1'200 accounts). there could be a 'coporate edition' created from that with the additional tweaks. if you are interested, please contact me.
cheerios, woddel |
Lumy
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:56:00 -
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Woddel, I'm afraid you won't find many ColdFusion (right?) developers around here.
Joomla! in EVE - IGB compatible CMS. |
Beseiged
Minmatar Rim Collection RC Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 22:44:00 -
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I am for sure looking for help on my project, but like it was said, I have no intentions of abandoning my project. I simply just have too much on my plate to be able to do it all myself. I've been not so busy in eve recently Jon, but i was also hoping to get back in touch with you soon. |
Speculative Sally
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Posted - 2008.10.24 14:43:00 -
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I hate to call you out on this but I'm going to break down the 1 Bil payment so you know what you're asking.
GTC's are running 500mil - 600mil at the moment, assuming a 60 day GTC is 500M then you're offering to pay someone $70us to build you a website. Not the best hourly wage I've ever seen |
Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.25 16:14:00 -
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^ Yeah. For a bil ISK, it really is going to have to be a labour of love.
As for frameworks. If you like PHP, but don't like all the overhead of some of the above mentioned frameworks, check out CodeIgniter
---- Train more. Whine less.
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Jethro Jechonias
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.25 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jethro Jechonias on 25/10/2008 16:44:37
Originally by: Nagasumi Isk is no problem...
Originally by: Nagasumi Im willing to spend 1bill on this application.
Originally by: Sirius Problem For a bil ISK, it really is going to have to be a labour of love.
I suppose that we all have different valuations for time and ISK, but you will probably find that a billion is not worth as much as you are putting it up to be.
I would have to agree with Sirius, especially when you concider the potential profits from using such an application. |
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Sir Buff
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Posted - 2008.10.27 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Buff on 27/10/2008 18:15:44 Edited by: Sir Buff on 27/10/2008 18:15:04 Sally is right on the isk for work, you can thank CCP for allowing a price tag to be put on isk through GTC :D.
As for us programmers working for isk, you aren't going to get any attention unless you are ready to front RL cash or at minimum 20bil for projects > 60hours of work. Which most of the projects asked on this forum are larger than 60 hours of dev time anyways.
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Nagasumi
Caldari Navy Runners
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Posted - 2008.10.29 15:36:00 -
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Well spending 20 bill on something people already have programmed seems abit over the top if u ask me.
as for poor payment could be true but most of you guys actually already have a major of these functions already programmed.
Ill just wait for chribbas free application to be released to the public.
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