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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:09:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Quote:Miscellaneous
Pilots with a Global Criminal Countdown in high security space will be prevented from warping (if they are in any ship other than a capsule). This is to prevent a tactic declared to be an exploit recently. Improved the clock synchronization of the client. Fixed several client crashes. New Eden has become a better place by fixing an exploit. I am intrigued, what exploit?
Is this commentary on the boomerang?
also this patch removed the ability to undock and suicide gank while under a GCC, but oh well :/ My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
903
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:11:00 -
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Does this quote mean that all those people that bought the book to reprocess are left with worthless books if they didnt reprocess them in time?
Quote:Pax Amarria is back in print, now using an optimized production process. I hope so, lol
My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:11:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp Quote:Miscellaneous
Pilots with a Global Criminal Countdown in high security space will be prevented from warping (if they are in any ship other than a capsule). This is to prevent a tactic declared to be an exploit recently. Improved the clock synchronization of the client. Fixed several client crashes. New Eden has become a better place by fixing an exploit. I am intrigued, what exploit? Is this commentary on the boomerang? also this patch removed the ability to undock and suicide gank while under a GCC, but oh well :/
Pax Amarria most likely.
They dont ever divulge exploits.
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Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
69
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:14:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:also this patch removed the ability to undock and suicide gank while under a GCC, but oh well :/ It's ok, they can simply say they intended to do that and appear to be a bigger friend to the carebears. It's a spectacular return to form for CCP, maybe a couple more redundancies are overdue. |
Zaaark Quasar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:17:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp Quote:Miscellaneous
Pilots with a Global Criminal Countdown in high security space will be prevented from warping (if they are in any ship other than a capsule). This is to prevent a tactic declared to be an exploit recently. Improved the clock synchronization of the client. Fixed several client crashes. New Eden has become a better place by fixing an exploit. I am intrigued, what exploit? Is this commentary on the boomerang? also this patch removed the ability to undock and suicide gank while under a GCC, but oh well :/ In your face losers. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
903
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:18:00 -
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Zowie Powers wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:also this patch removed the ability to undock and suicide gank while under a GCC, but oh well :/ It's ok, they can simply say they intended to do that and appear to be a bigger friend to the carebears. It's a spectacular return to form for CCP, maybe a couple more redundancies are overdue.
It was their intention to stop the 'boomerang tactic' from working, which i am fine with.
But the way they did it was a little bit fudged, so now you cant attempt to leave station with a GCC and suicide gank.
It'd be nice to know if they meant for this to be 'fixed' as well.
edit - i havent attempted to suicide under GCC for a few months, but i knew it was possible My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
62
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:40:00 -
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Well this is pretty ****** up... So CCP said you can't even warp in a shuttle?
******* retards... let people run gates under GCC...
Let alone you can't warp at all now with GCC... thats ****** up...
What about leaving lowsec and running HS?
Anyone see what the message says yet? OBV concord does not have you tackled yet so what is CCPs excuse now?
The right way to fix this would be "concord broadcasts a system wide self destruct siginal to your ship, it will now self destruct in 10 seconds"
So if it takes 5 sec for concord responce... the sig goes out after 10 seconds... thats 15seconds in... you die in 25seconds... |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3626
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:41:00 -
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All things that should have been fixed "LONG" ago.
Meh...
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Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
503
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Posted - 2012.04.02 18:52:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp Quote:Miscellaneous
Pilots with a Global Criminal Countdown in high security space will be prevented from warping (if they are in any ship other than a capsule). This is to prevent a tactic declared to be an exploit recently. Improved the clock synchronization of the client. Fixed several client crashes. New Eden has become a better place by fixing an exploit. I am intrigued, what exploit? Is this commentary on the boomerang? also this patch removed the ability to undock and suicide gank while under a GCC, but oh well :/ Pax Amarria most likely. They dont ever divulge exploits. calling Pax Amarria an exploit would be strong - the eve economy used to have artificial ceilings on mineral prices for a very long time.
NPC seeded Coupling Arrays did set a cap on Tritanium prices at 2.3 ISK pu and once that was removed in 2007 NPC seeded shuttles capped Tritanium at 3.7 ISK pu (until that cap was removed in 2008).
CCP made it clear that they don't like hard ceilings on mineral prices as the economic sandbox was strong enough to lead to reasonable equlibria without them - but nobody ever talked about it as an "exploit" |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
98
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Posted - 2012.04.02 19:09:00 -
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If you pick up a GCC in low-sec, don't bother jumping to high-sec. "The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions."
THE MITTANI for CEO of CCP 1-800-273-8255 |
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Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
41
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Posted - 2012.04.02 19:27:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote: OBV concord does not have you tackled yet so what is CCPs excuse now?
concord are more mighty then simply needing to tackle you, hell they posess "voodoo technology" that keeps you from jumping through a wormhole.
also: u mad bro? |
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
75
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Posted - 2012.04.02 19:36:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:Well this is pretty ****** up... So CCP said you can't even warp in a shuttle?
******* retards... let people run gates under GCC...
Let alone you can't warp at all now with GCC... thats ****** up...
What about leaving lowsec and running HS?
Anyone see what the message says yet? OBV concord does not have you tackled yet so what is CCPs excuse now?
The right way to fix this would be "concord broadcasts a system wide self destruct siginal to your ship, it will now self destruct in 10 seconds"
So if it takes 5 sec for concord responce... the sig goes out after 10 seconds... thats 15seconds in... you die in 25seconds...
Relax m8. You can still suicide gank just not while under GCC. Which of course means you need to have a somewhat decent security status. Hmmm that may be a problem....
Patri
Miners! Make Moar Isks Nao! |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
450
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Posted - 2012.04.02 19:53:00 -
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so wait.... if you have -10 you can't suicide gank now???? |
Warzon3
Solar Storm The Forsaken.
24
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:10:00 -
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being -10 doesnt give you a GCC
shooting someone gives you a 15 minute GCC and if you undock in high sec with a GCC concord will be after you. Being -10 only the navy comes after you.
(if you didnt know in concord controlled space the navy is concord with all its ownage weapons) |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:11:00 -
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Does this count the capsule? Are the capsules of gankers gonna be stuck on the grid to the indies can then get in a noob ship, go back an kill them? Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:15:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:Does this count the capsule? Are the capsules of gankers gonna be stuck on the grid to the indies can then get in a noob ship, go back an kill them?
If those noobie miners want to be -10.
But no, it doesn't apply to pods. |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
763
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:16:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:Does this count the capsule? Are the capsules of gankers gonna be stuck on the grid to the indies can then get in a noob ship, go back an kill them?
Can you read?
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Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:20:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Does this count the capsule? Are the capsules of gankers gonna be stuck on the grid to the indies can then get in a noob ship, go back an kill them? Can you read?
GM Homonoia wrote:My Neutral Toon wrote:You can still get away from them if you move fast enough and dont stop moving.
But you have to be really fast, destroyer hull or below. Otherwise you probably wont make it. Note that it is also a (seperate) exploit to avoid being destroyed by CONCORD in high sec when you gain a GCC
can you? I dont understand why ppl QQ over this. that statement's pretty damned clear to me
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Lone Gunman
Forhotea Corporation
17
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:20:00 -
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Warzon3 wrote:being -10 doesnt give you a GCC
shooting someone gives you a 15 minute GCC and if you undock in high sec with a GCC concord will be after you. Being -10 only the Faction Police comes after you.
(if you didnt know in concord controlled space the faction police is concord with all its ownage weapons)
Fixed that for you.
The Navy goes after FW Pukes. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:21:00 -
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Maximille Biagge wrote: u mad bro?
Im thinking its mostly that Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
304
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:24:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Does this count the capsule? Are the capsules of gankers gonna be stuck on the grid to the indies can then get in a noob ship, go back an kill them? Can you read? GM Homonoia wrote:My Neutral Toon wrote:You can still get away from them if you move fast enough and dont stop moving.
But you have to be really fast, destroyer hull or below. Otherwise you probably wont make it. Note that it is also a (seperate) exploit to avoid being destroyed by CONCORD in high sec when you gain a GCC can you? I dont understand why ppl QQ over this. that statement's pretty damned clear to me
why did you put those 2 quoptes together? they're not connected at all. Like Marlona I also think you need to go back to class and learn to read. Because you're just embarrassing yourself about now. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
287
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:36:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:
why did you put those 2 quoptes together? they're not connected at all. Like Marlona I also think you need to go back to class and learn to read. Because you're just embarrassing yourself about now.
He doesn't understand a lot, he's just slow.
-No, Capsules are not effected. -GM Homo quote about the (separate) exploit refers to: 'warping for 15 minutes until GCC expired, avoiding ship destruction', not the 'boomerang' where the ship is destroyed. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
287
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:38:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:so wait.... if you have -10 you can't suicide gank now????
HAHAHA. Disappointed? Your 2" willy must have moved a little while you wrote that, before reality sunk in. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:46:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Lauren Hellfury wrote:
why did you put those 2 quoptes together? they're not connected at all. Like Marlona I also think you need to go back to class and learn to read. Because you're just embarrassing yourself about now.
He doesn't understand a lot, he's just slow. -No, Capsules are not effected. -GM Homo quote about the (separate) exploit refers to: 'warping for 15 minutes until GCC expired, avoiding ship destruction', not the 'boomerang' where the ship is destroyed.
no...
says pretty clearly to me that avoiding CONCORD is an exploit
I sent a mail to that GM asking for a clarification, so if I get a reply, we'll see Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
287
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:30:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:
I sent a mail to that GM asking for a clarification, so if I get a reply, we'll see
GÇÿIf you gain a Global Criminal Countdown by committing an illegal action in high security space, it is considered an exploit to attack a target after you warp away from the grid, or warp within the same grid, where you gained that GCC; even if you later return to that grid while still affected by that GCC.
Read it closely. If you are GCC, it is considered an exploit.... "to attack a target after you warp away from the grid....."
It doesn't say that warping away from the grid was an exploit - but attacking another ship after warping is.
Now the second quote from the GM:
"Note that it is also a (seperate) exploit to avoid being destroyed by CONCORD in high sec when you gain a GCC"
Boomeranging never allowed anyone to 'avoid being destroyed', and thus, was not applicable.
Anyway, its all meaningless now, as the 'software fix' is in.
Warping after a gank wasn't an exploit, but they patched it out anyway. (probably because its much easier to prevent a warp, than programming a fix that prevents someone from shooting afterwards.)
Still for gankers - it sucks to be A) be locked in place for 15-20 seconds (no warp) and B) locked into your ship (no ejecting to escape) - if you want to avoid getting podded by randoms. |
Ch3244
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
7
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:00:00 -
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There will be blood for this! |
Noriko Mai
398
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:13:00 -
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Why is the patchlog upside down? |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
229
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Posted - 2012.04.03 11:02:00 -
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Being podded for going GCC still possible?
Last time I tried I got the old warning message up about aggression high sec.
Sucks less to lose a pod than an entire fitted ship so really shaddup already you whiny Forum Warriors
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Thomas Gallant
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.03 11:26:00 -
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As far as I can tell, they made it so if you suicide gank, you must lose your ship( or at least that's the intent), once you are in your pod, things are no different than they ever were before.
Am I reading that right? |
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Shameless Suicidal Space Barbies
37
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Posted - 2012.04.03 13:17:00 -
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I've never suicide ganked anyone so could someone please clarify this?
Say you suicide gank a miner or whatever. Under the new mechanics you can't warp off at all; you must wait there until concord blows up your ship. Once your ship is destroyed you may warp off in your capsule. However, if you get another ship while still under GCC you're stuck. You need to wait 15 minutes until the GCC is over before you may warp anywhere. Do I understand correctly? Or does the GCC expire as soon as you're concorded?
Either way, it seems like a bit of a sledgehammer fix to me. I am disappointed that CCP seem to be taking further steps to discourage 'grief play' in Eve. I'm not a griefer myself but I like the relative freedom that players seem to have in this game and I would hate to lose that so soon after I started playing. |
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
906
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Posted - 2012.04.03 13:21:00 -
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nothing has changed other than not being able to warp away with a GCC
it just means that you cant warp to and from a target evading concord until you are 'ready to die', like the boomerang tactic.
I also wonder what will happen when you undock in a ship with a GCC My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Alxea
The Army of The Ori
67
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Posted - 2012.04.03 13:30:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:
I sent a mail to that GM asking for a clarification, so if I get a reply, we'll see
GÇÿIf you gain a Global Criminal Countdown by committing an illegal action in high security space, it is considered an exploit to attack a target after you warp away from the grid, or warp within the same grid, where you gained that GCC; even if you later return to that grid while still affected by that GCC. Read it closely. If you are GCC, it is considered an exploit.... "to attack a target after you warp away from the grid....." It doesn't say that warping away from the grid was an exploit - but attacking another ship after warping is. Now the second quote from the GM: "Note that it is also a (seperate) exploit to avoid being destroyed by CONCORD in high sec when you gain a GCC" Boomeranging never allowed anyone to 'avoid being destroyed', and thus, was not applicable. Anyway, its all meaningless now, as the 'software fix' is in. Warping after a gank wasn't an exploit, but they patched it out anyway. (probably because its much easier to prevent a warp, than programming a fix that prevents someone from shooting afterwards.) Still for gankers - it sucks to be A) be locked in place for 15-20 seconds (no warp) and B) locked into your ship (no ejecting to escape) - if you want to avoid getting podded by randoms.
Just before you blow up, select a station or something you can warp away to, then spam the warp button and you will insta warp if there is no lag between appearing from your ship and into a pod. |
Janet Patton
Brony Express
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Posted - 2012.04.03 13:56:00 -
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Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:I've never suicide ganked anyone so could someone please clarify this?
Say you suicide gank a miner or whatever. Under the new mechanics you can't warp off at all; you must wait there until concord blows up your ship. Once your ship is destroyed you may warp off in your capsule. However, if you get another ship while still under GCC you're stuck. You need to wait 15 minutes until the GCC is over before you may warp anywhere. Do I understand correctly? Or does the GCC expire as soon as you're concorded?
Either way, it seems like a bit of a sledgehammer fix to me. I am disappointed that CCP seem to be taking further steps to discourage 'grief play' in Eve. I'm not a griefer myself but I like the relative freedom that players seem to have in this game and I would hate to lose that so soon after I started playing.
I think what you said is exactly right about the new mechanic.
I do agree that what has made EVE so great is its freedoms. The problem is people have been EXPLOITING that freedom way beyond its intended purpose, so something had to be done imo. If people didn't abuse the freedoms we have in EVE so much, none of these fixes would have come to been.
The lesson should be - Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should... EXCESSIVELY.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
576
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Posted - 2012.04.03 14:13:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Does this count the capsule? Are the capsules of gankers gonna be stuck on the grid to the indies can then get in a noob ship, go back an kill them? If those noobie miners want to be -10. But no, it doesn't apply to pods.
Wouldn't want the gankers to start crying now would we.
I am a big supporter of GCC and killrights being made podable offenses. I do find the not warping a bit over the top but lets hope they'll find a more elegant solution to the problem or at least a nice explaining text that says that concord actions have incapacitated your warp drive. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Damion Rayne
Dark-Rising
69
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Posted - 2012.04.03 14:43:00 -
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OH THE TEARS OF THE POOR POOR PIWATES!!! You can't suicide gank anymore? OH NOES!! CCP IS SOOOO EVIL!!!!!
Shut the hell up you whiny, entitled little children. Everything you were doing with suicide ganking was because you were cowards, and exploiters. Good job CCP, you made the poor little high sec s-gankers cry like little children because they can't do what they want anymore. I'm proud of you. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
274
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:16:00 -
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Damion Rayne wrote:OH THE TEARS OF THE POOR POOR PIWATES!!! You can't suicide gank anymore? OH NOES!! CCP IS SOOOO EVIL!!!!!
Shut the hell up you whiny, entitled little children. Everything you were doing with suicide ganking was because you were cowards, and exploiters. Good job CCP, you made the poor little high sec s-gankers cry like little children because they can't do what they want anymore. I'm proud of you.
I've read the thread, and the patch notes, but I still have some questions.
From what I understand, if you have GCC and are in a ship, you can't warp? For how long? The entire 15 minutes? So you can't dock or warp to a safe spot and get a new ship while still in GCC?
If so that's ridiculous.
If I wanted to lose 15 ships in 15 minutes and only killed 15 targets and faithfully lost all 15 of my ships to concord in return, wtf is so wrong with that? If I am reading this right, ( which I hope someone tells me I'm not ), then you effectively limit suicide ganking to 1 kill / 15 minutes. and in reality with setup time you're talking more like 1 / 20 minutes.
If this is true, then you're placing a severe time restriction on folks.
Also, does anyone know if anything changed in low sec or if the changes were completely limited to hi sec?
thanks. ... |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
906
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Posted - 2012.04.04 10:37:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Also, does anyone know if anything changed in low sec or if the changes were completely limited to hi sec? thanks.
lol accidental losec nerf would be hilarious My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
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