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Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:03:00 -
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Skill yourself with the PS3 controller.
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Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:20:00 -
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Both of them are terrible & evil businesses :(
Should have went with the Wii U :( |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:26:00 -
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Pertuabo Enkidgan wrote:Both of them are terrible & evil businesses :(
Should have went with the Wii U :(, although Nintendo always has a tight hand on what comes on their console and what doesn't (lololl shovelware wii) Pffft...Gameboy Advance was the obvious choice for DUST. Why they would choose an inferior consol over a handheld is beyond me. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5897
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:29:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Pffft...Gameboy Advance was the obvious choice for DUST. Why they would choose an inferior consol over a handheld is beyond me. PffftGǪ Atari Lynx > all.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
516
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:35:00 -
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Don't know what all the Butthurt directed at Sony is about. You should be raging at CCP....
Computer Game.
^^ Bang! Head shot to the knee.
CCP already has EVE out on PC, you would think "Hmmm, hey it shouldn't be that hard!" but they got other reasons for not releasing DUST to the computer like Big Brother. Except for the massive number of FPS clowns replaying the same shooter for months on end under the names Counter Strike, Halo, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty....the choice for console was because of the larger potentional player base. There are a total of 3 Consoles on the planet (unless I haven't heard of others), XBox opted out, Sony said yes, and Wii...wasn't even considered. So...nothing to get angry out as CCP will be getting more revenue. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
155
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:43:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Don't know what all the Butthurt directed at Sony is about. You should be raging at CCP....
Why? Because CCP didn't want to split the current community? Because CCP wanted to reach a larger broader audience without WoWifing EVE? Because CCP wanted to get more people interested on the PC side by reaching the console market who have never heard of CCP? Because CCP has been a successful entity despite little slip-ups during its whole history and generally has known whats good for itself?
Real reason people are mad is because they either A: only have X-box or B: bought an X-box years ago when the first tentative details of Dust had it scheduled for x-box and ran with that info. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:43:00 -
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Well in all fairness Sony is a pretty crap company they have a track record of ruining games, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies are the ones i know of cause i played them until :SOE: |
Proton Satria
Vetrox Technologies
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:45:00 -
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dont like the console its on? dont play it.
Got an xbox? if it came out on your console the graphics and gameplay would be half of what it is on ps3 as ps3 is a superior machine (dont rage at me because lets face it...it is)
Got a wii? hahahahaha
Got a pc? Go play planetside 2, its the same type of game
Got all of the above but no ps3? im sure you could sell them all and have enough for a ps3
Got a ps3? here, has a cookie on me.
What have i got? i got an xbox and a pc? what am i going to do about dust? borrow a friends ps3 and see if dust is any good. If its not then i will go back to my pc and play planetside 2 cos it will remind me of the good old days. |
Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:51:00 -
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Don't forget that more revenue for CCP also = more potential revenue that could then be put back in to Dust & Eve
And the fact that it is only a PS3 lauch exclusive title. There have been various hints that it may one day come to PC, but for the meantime the contract with Sony would probably entail PS3 to get first dibs.
Also, as Proton said, its opening up EvE, a PC game, to the masses of console players who may wish to try it (and contrary to popular belief, console players are not all whiny 13 y/os ). Heck, there have been a few people already who have subscribed to EvE because they heard of it due to all the attention on Dust. Win Win for everybody really |
Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
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Posted - 2012.04.02 20:51:00 -
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Oh, dear.
Dust514 will be a Free To Play, so
1. CCP will want it on every console they can, as active players pay (unfortunately, MS said 'gofuself', so Sony it is).
2. It will be supported on PS3 and PSwhatevertheycallthenextone (CCP stated this ages ago).
Should I post some random rubbish now, to demonstrate that not only don't I think before I post, but I don't bother to read either? |
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Proton Satria
Vetrox Technologies
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:06:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:(and contrary to popular belief, console players are not all whiny 13 y/os ).
Yup! alot of console players i expect are 16+ old enough to sell your bodies for cash...or work (whatever floats your boat)
You can pick up ps3's pretty damn cheap. You wont even need a controller cos you can just use the mouse and keyboard you use for browsing this very forum. (unless your on a laptop in which case a mouse and keyboard combo wont cost more than a ps3 controller) |
Cyprus Black
Golden Shellbacks Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:06:00 -
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Sony PS3 was the lesser of two evils.
Microsoft is notorious for screwing up online play. Charging for necessary game fixing patches and such. You wouldn't complain about needles when you get a tattoo. So why would you complain about PvP when you play EVE? |
Ai Shun
566
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:07:00 -
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Judeau Antara wrote:It shouldn't have been on either console. Should have been for the PC. Could have worked a deal with Steam or something.
Possibly. And it might happen in the future when they work out how to properly balance the responsiveness of different input devices and provide a balanced game environment.
However, I think it is a smart move to diversify their customer base. Picking up a whole new revenue stream on a different platform makes the company stronger.
An initial release on the PC would have muddied the waters too much. |
Nub Sauce
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:28:00 -
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I still believe they are going to release it on PC. They just want to get some cash from the ADD console gamers for that initial month or so after the game comes out. It'll die off in 2 to 4 weeks just like any other console game and they can announce their plans for PC release.
Side note: Sony really is one of the most vile entities in the universe.
Additional info: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullshit
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Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
5
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:30:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Judeau Antara wrote:It shouldn't have been on either console. Should have been for the PC. Could have worked a deal with Steam or something. Possibly. And it might happen in the future when they work out how to properly balance the responsiveness of different input devices and provide a balanced game environment. However, I think it is a smart move to diversify their customer base. Picking up a whole new revenue stream on a different platform makes the company stronger. An initial release on the PC would have muddied the waters too much.
Or oh, I dunno, remove mouse support? There are controllers for the PC you know? |
Ai Shun
566
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:41:00 -
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Enkryption wrote:Or oh, I dunno, remove mouse support? There are controllers for the PC you know?
That sounds like a solid plan. Remove the core input device for a PC and require all your users to purchase a controller if they don't have one so they can play the game. I can see you are a budding businessman.
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knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:49:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Xbox > We're also sorry you cannot patch daily to fix exploits.
You can't do that with Sony.
I've worked for SCEE and I can tell you there are downsides compared to working with Sony. One of them is not being able to patch daily. In 2009 it was 4 weeks turn around.
Cyprus Black wrote:Sony PS3 was the lesser of two evils.
Microsoft is notorious for screwing up online play. Charging for necessary game fixing patches and such.
Talking out of your backside....no patch has ever had a charge with it. Content updates labelled as DLC yes, patches no.
Some of the biggest online console titles are on xbox and 360. I'm not a fan of console shooters but M$'s strengths are in the online part. PSN can't even hold a candle to Xbox live. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:49:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Xbox > We're sorry but you cant use your third party voice IOP you must use the microsoft only voip. We're also sorry but every patch you put out will cost 10k usd. We're also sorry you cannot patch daily to fix exploits. We're also sorry you cannot connect to outside networks.
dont ask about our failed experiment with this either.
PS4> Cool so you guys say you can get the game coded in something I can understand? Awsome, well see about keeping the policies the same and the door open for you!
Volkswagon > Why do I have the worst used car ratings in the industry? si there some sort of magical switch that makes me a shoddy car after I leave my original owner?
M$ > we wont allow micotransaction systems that we cant take a bite out of
PS> We're pretty desperate so sure Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Ch3244
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
7
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:04:00 -
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I wonder how console fanboys will feel about orbit cannons?
Time for the showdown between the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race and the dirty console gaming peasants. |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
5
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:09:00 -
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Ch3244 wrote:I wonder how console fanboys will feel about orbit cannons?
Time for the showdown between the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race and the dirty console gaming peasants. I think Sony demanded Dust be PS3 exclusive because they knew PC FPS gamers would rip their Call of Reskin customers a new hole... |
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Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:09:00 -
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Enkryption wrote:Wrong console, wrong company.
Sony - one of the most vile, despicable companies on this planet has been literally bending their customers over every single chance they get for the quite awhile now. Look at the PS3. They removed the backwards compatibility for one reason, so they could "remake" older games and resell them for more money.
Now, look at the rumors for the PS4. Absolutely no backwards compatibility. It looks like they are trying to completely destroy the reselling of games because games now require you to log in to PSN. If you resell, the person that buys the game will not have complete access to the game because the key is locked to the original owner's PSN.
Imagine if this worked with cars. You buy a used car but since you aren't the original owner the brakes won't work, ever. Have fun!
How does this bode with Dust514? When CCP ports it to PS4 will they continue support for the PS3 version or are we all going to get screwed once again?
How could you partner with such a reprehensible company CCP?
You sire are an idiot. please wake up and join reality before you post this nonsense.
It is common knowledge in the gaming world EA, Microsoft and Sony want to kill the used video game market, this market does not generate any cash for them and they are greed bastards. This is common knowledge to those that watch the Video game market.
The next Xbox will not have backwards compatibility either.
Justt like PS2, they will support PS3 for another year or so depending how PS4 sells. |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
293
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:37:00 -
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ITT console players learn to accept that they're living in a PC based world. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:43:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:So who were they gonna go with? Nintendo?
Microsoft was too anal about controlling everything to let CCP do: -Free to play -Connectivity to TQ, kinda vital here -Free expansions and patches
That and since Dust is F2P redownloading a new version shouldn't be too bad. CCP likely already has plan for the PS4. Since they are using a standard engine like the Unreal engine they probably won't have much technical work to do and will simply be updating graphics. If the PS4 uses the same PSN then not a whole lot of technical changes here either.
Hey hey
Didn't you see video demo when they first introduced Dust they showed a WII fit use for full action mining!! Sim!!
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
6
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:50:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Enkryption wrote:Or oh, I dunno, remove mouse support? There are controllers for the PC you know? That sounds like a solid plan. Remove the core input device for a PC and require all your users to purchase a controller if they don't have one so they can play the game. I can see you are a budding businessman.
Yah, cause requiring everyone to buy a $300 console is SOOOOOOOOOOO much cheaper then a controler, RIGHT?
Way to show that once again sony fan boys are complete rubbish at any other thought process other then "lolz throw gernade BOOOOOOOOOM lolz again again BOOOOOOM lolz" |
Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
6
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:52:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Enkryption wrote:Wrong console, wrong company.
Sony - one of the most vile, despicable companies on this planet has been literally bending their customers over every single chance they get for the quite awhile now. Look at the PS3. They removed the backwards compatibility for one reason, so they could "remake" older games and resell them for more money.
Now, look at the rumors for the PS4. Absolutely no backwards compatibility. It looks like they are trying to completely destroy the reselling of games because games now require you to log in to PSN. If you resell, the person that buys the game will not have complete access to the game because the key is locked to the original owner's PSN.
Imagine if this worked with cars. You buy a used car but since you aren't the original owner the brakes won't work, ever. Have fun!
How does this bode with Dust514? When CCP ports it to PS4 will they continue support for the PS3 version or are we all going to get screwed once again?
How could you partner with such a reprehensible company CCP? You sir are an idiot. please wake up and join reality before you post this nonsense. It is common knowledge in the gaming world EA, Microsoft and Sony want to kill the used video game market, this market does not generate any cash for them and they are greedy bastards. This is common knowledge to those that watch the Video game market. This is not a SONY only thing, this is across the board. The used game market takes profits out of their pockets is what the Higher ups at EA, Microsoft and SONY think. The next Xbox will not have backwards compatibility either. Justt like PS2, they will support PS3 for another year or so depending how PS4 sells. Is it me or does this OP seem to be screaming. "I have an Xbox360 and mommy and daddy told me NO when I asked them to buy me a PS3 for Dust"
I don't own an xbox I own a ps3 and it's the last PoS I will ever buy from Sony.
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Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
6
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:55:00 -
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Enkryption wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Enkryption wrote:Or oh, I dunno, remove mouse support? There are controllers for the PC you know? That sounds like a solid plan. Remove the core input device for a PC and require all your users to purchase a controller if they don't have one so they can play the game. I can see you are a budding businessman. Yah, cause requiring everyone to buy a $300 console is SOOOOOOOOOOO much cheaper then a controler, RIGHT? Way to show that once again sony fan boys are complete rubbish at any other thought process other then "lolz throw gernade BOOOOOOOOOM lolz again again BOOOOOOM lolz"
Not empty quoting for emphasis. |
Klezmer
In Praise Of Shadows
20
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:01:00 -
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Despite the obvious reality that CCP went with the people that will actually allow them the freedom they require to make dust work; the argument of concerned players boils down to "I don't want to have to buy a PS3 for this game". |
Ai Shun
566
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:07:00 -
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Enkryption wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Enkryption wrote:Or oh, I dunno, remove mouse support? There are controllers for the PC you know? That sounds like a solid plan. Remove the core input device for a PC and require all your users to purchase a controller if they don't have one so they can play the game. I can see you are a budding businessman. Yah, cause requiring everyone to buy a $300 console is SOOOOOOOOOOO much cheaper then a controller, RIGHT? Way to show that once again sony fan boys are complete rubbish at any other thought process other then "lolz throw gernade BOOOOOOOOOM lolz again again BOOOOOOM lolz"
Dear child. Nobody is required to buy a $300 console. Nor did I ever suggest it should be so. I am certainly not going to purchase one. Fortunately my partner has one, so if I want to try the game I can use that.
Please try to not invent positions for other people - it is making you look really, really stupid. |
Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:08:00 -
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The choice to put it only on a console is more the mistake. |
Scerwup
Black Mesa Mavericks
2
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:09:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Cyprus Black wrote:Sony PS3 was the lesser of two evils.
Microsoft is notorious for screwing up online play. Charging for necessary game fixing patches and such. Talking out of your backside....no patch has ever had a charge with it. Content updates labelled as DLC yes, patches no.
Actually, every single patch or anything that you need for Xbox has a charge on it, it's called Xbox Live, you know that thing you pay for that allows you to pay for other things. Most asinine thing I've ever seen.
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