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Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call
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Posted - 2012.04.02 21:57:00 -
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Hello everyone.
My health may bump me out of a job, but not the fight.
I would like to announce the formation of Skadi's Call, a new organization which will maintain, and exceed, the standards I set down in TRA; We will maintain an NRDS policy within Empire space, we will continue to fight against the enemies of the Minmatar people, and we will be enlisting, as a corporation, in the TLF as soon as CONCORD permits us to do so.
I will not repeat a few things I did while running TRA that I feel steered us away from our original path; for this purpose, we will be much, much more selective in our recruitment. Our focus will remain on small gang combat, with our membership free to solo, or join larger fleets, as they wish. However, we will be more... proactive, shall we say, about attacking and destroying enemy assets.
If anyone is interested, feel free to shoot me a mail, or bend my ear, or visit our corporation's base of operations, Skadi's Hall.
(( Enemies of Skadi's Call will be removed from the channel... possibly after being run through with a spear. Be warned. ))
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Kelevra Menardi
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.04.02 22:51:00 -
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Well best of luck with that Ava. Hope this works out better for you and I hope to see you and yours down range soon. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:20:00 -
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I think your health issues are footprint in your fat rear end. You did not resigned, you were kicked out. |
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:25:00 -
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Ah, good news I see. I look forward to all the possible developments that will arise from your new organization. As always, should you ever need assistance with anything (or simply someone to chat with over a fine dinner), you know how to contact me and the rest of I-RED.
Best of luck, and fair profits to you. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.04.02 23:28:00 -
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The Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive will continue to uphold our pledge of support to Ava Starfire and her goals against piracy within the Minmatar Republic. Negotiations for positive standings are already underway.
Spirits and Ancestors watch over you Ava. We will be at your back. Good luck. |
Kikia Truzhari
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.04.03 00:23:00 -
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Vaari wrote:I think your health issues are footprint in your fat rear end. You did not resigned, you were kicked out.
I can assure you that that was not the case, and TRA maintains positive relations with Ava and her new outfit.
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Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call
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Posted - 2012.04.03 00:39:00 -
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Vaari wrote:I think your health issues are footprint in your fat rear end. You did not resigned, you were kicked out.
Pity.
And i was about to contact Imperial Pharmacy for all my healthcare needs.
I guess I will settle for killing you.
A lot. |
Moolti
Skadi's Call
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Posted - 2012.04.03 00:58:00 -
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For myself I look for forward to flying under Avlynka's capable leadership and taking the fight to the enemy. |
Simca Develon
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.04.03 03:38:00 -
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I would wish you luck, but I think your enemies probably need it more. Fly free , Ava and may the spirits watch you back. Je suis le commencement de votre fin. |
Graelyn
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.04.03 03:39:00 -
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Vaari wrote:I think your health issues are footprint in your fat rear end. You did not resigned, you were kicked out.
You have to admit, Ms. Starfire, given the speed of your leaving 'for health reasons', to now starting a new venture, it is very easy to assume this was the case.
Quite a bit more probable, in fact. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" YR113 Amarr Loyalist of the Year
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Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.04.03 04:56:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:Vaari wrote:I think your health issues are footprint in your fat rear end. You did not resigned, you were kicked out. You have to admit, Ms. Starfire, given the speed of your leaving 'for health reasons', to now starting a new venture, it is very easy to assume this was the case. Quite a bit more probable, in fact.
You of all people should know better than making such assumptions. Luckily for you Vaari embarrassed himself first and took the heat for you. Ava was most certainly not forced out.
Best of luck Ava, Kala, Moolti and the rest of the brave pilots of Skadi's Call. I'm looking forward to flying with you all soon.
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Graelyn
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.04.03 07:20:00 -
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Vaari will embarrass himself no matter what I chose to do.
I simply point out the plausibility of his assertions in this case.
One should wonder why a CEO would leave their own creation, just to quickly form another that seems to perform a very similar purpose. Inquisitiveness, and a healthy dose of suspicion will serve one well when delving the depths of capsuleer corporate politics.
Since no reason has yet been stated for any of this, people will insert their own. That this should surprise you is hard to believe. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" YR113 Amarr Loyalist of the Year
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Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.03 09:19:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:... However, we will be more... proactive, shall we say, about attacking and destroying enemy assets. ...
Thats the only difference, was it to hard to convince other members of TRA to that ?
Ava Starfire wrote: ... much more selective in our recruitment.
Does that means you don't consider members of TRA "real freedom fighters" ?
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Dertana Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.03 11:06:00 -
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Is this truly so difficult to see, or is capsuleer paranoia taking over? Then again, I should probably cultivate that mindset myself, from what I am told.
Ms Surionen and others have found that Teraa Matar has grown to become something unexpected. While not necessarily objectionable, probably not quite what was intended. In her own words, Teraa Matar went down a different path. Is it truly so strange that instead of destroying what she unintentionally created in order to focus on her original dream, she allow that creation to live on while starting anew on the original path?
I am no ally of those who come to harm my people and abduct those who live peaceful lives within our borders, but this suspicion and needless speculation does not become you, ladies and gentlemen. Especially not when the answer you seek has been in plain sight in the latest communications.
I am personally looking forwards to the day when I face Skadir's Call in battle. Chances are I will wake in a new body once more, but I have a feeling it will be a glorious day nonetheless. |
Lyn Farel
Kitzless
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Posted - 2012.04.03 11:24:00 -
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I think it might be mostly a matter of subtle different doctrines and engagement policies, having been myself in a similar case in the past too.
Ms Surionen, I wish you best luck in your NRDS endeavors. |
Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call
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Posted - 2012.04.03 11:54:00 -
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Allow me to try to answer all concerns.
No, I was not "kicked out". Several issues, my health among them, let to TRA deciding, with me being part of the decision, that it would be for the benefit of all if I stepped down. A smaller, lower key organization is something I can handle, especially with the assistance of Tabor and Kala. TRA did evolve differently than I intended, so I decided to regain my path, rather than try and force a group of people who were obviously happy and successful where they are to change.
I most certainly consider them both freedom fighters and Minmatar. They are not afraid to fight, not by a long shot. I am proud of each and every member of Teraa Matar, and I wish them nothing but success in their future endeavors.
Ms. Hanaya, you are devoted to your people for what seem to be the right reasons. I respect that. Good luck wherever your path leads.
And yeah, Vaari will make a fool of himself no matter what anyone says. |
Vultirnus
Atlantic Evolution
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Posted - 2012.04.03 13:19:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Ava Starfire wrote:... However, we will be more... proactive, shall we say, about attacking and destroying enemy assets. ...
Thats the only difference, was it to hard to convince other members of TRA to that ? Ava Starfire wrote: ... much more selective in our recruitment.
Does that means you don't consider members of TRA "real freedom fighters" ?
Let the Matar in-fighting begin. "I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed |
Conventia Underking
Underking Family
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Posted - 2012.04.03 15:04:00 -
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Good luck, Shaman Surionen. For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!
The Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking |
Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.04.04 06:19:00 -
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Vultirnus wrote: Let the Matar in-fighting begin.
Dream on. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:28:00 -
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Vultirnus wrote: Let the Matar in-fighting begin.
Begin? Someone needs a bit of a history lesson, and I don't mean simply Matari history. In-fighting is shamefully common enough everywhere there happen to be humans. The conflicts between Holders seems to be the appropriate example to illustrate the above statement is both inaccurate and quite unnecessary. |
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hercules fitch
Don't Regret Until Next Keg Dragoons.
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Posted - 2012.04.17 21:38:00 -
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As always, I wish you best of the luck in your noble endeavours, Ava.
Of course, if you ever see me in the area, please let me know if I can be of service, with my guns or otherwise. |
ValentinaDLM
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:37:00 -
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I wish you good luck in your endeavours, well at least I wish you luck when not doing anything that hurts the nation or affiliated capsuleers. I have a feeling that the Empire is a much bigger concern for you. |
Aphoxema G
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.04.21 07:57:00 -
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Vultirnus wrote:Let the Matar in-fighting begin.
In-fighting is a typical process in organization between people, and to suggest that groups of people should be blindly faithful in their leadership is a rather Amarrian thing to expect.
We will always have our differences, but the overwhelming consensus is that the Amarr and their unethical goals of subjugating humanity is pretty bad for, well, the people who get subjugated.
It's amazing we've grown so large under the same flag at all without the tyrannical oversight the Empire and Federation have over subordinate collectives. Really, it's a sign that we're overcoming the threat of the Amarr when we're coming to the point where our beliefs diverge and the unifying force of hating the Amarr has stepped down to our personal convictions.
If the Minmatar divide, I can assure you that every remaining piece will still hate the Amarr just as much as the whole did. A government is and should be a transitional thing, and memetic shifts in societies does nothing to indicate the failings of the organizations those societies form.
Though Ava's path has departed Teraa Matar's path, we are all still very much strong allies and do associate with one another, perhaps even more strongly than before. Our reorganization has ultimately served to maximize the abilities of both Teraa Matar and the new membership of Skadi's Call. We did not break, we reformed and ultimately gained from it.
You can see it as a victory if you really wish, but the economic and combat performance of all of us have demonstrably improved. This "in fighting" could stand to happen more often, as it tends to lead to stronger resolve and new application of underutilized potential and resources. Necromancy ships: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1145308&#post1145308 |
Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.21 08:04:00 -
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Good luck, Ava
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Lyn Farel
Kitzless
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Posted - 2012.04.21 10:54:00 -
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Aphoxema G wrote:Vultirnus wrote:Let the Matar in-fighting begin. In-fighting is a typical process in organization between people, and to suggest that groups of people should be blindly faithful in their leadership is a rather Amarrian thing to expect.
Amarrians do as much as in-fighting as anyone else. |
Aphoxema G
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:17:00 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Amarrians do as much as in-fighting as anyone else.
I'm aware, it just takes an unprecedented faith in a social system to expect arguing to never occur.
I'm trying to suggest here the Amarr are idiots a little bit. Not that I expect them to abandon their insane beliefs and be reasonable. If that could happen I wouldn't have to keep shooting them. All modules "miss" like turrets instead of deactivating when out of range. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98914 |
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