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Necrosmith
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.30 10:02:00 -
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How about a thread where people contribute one thing they wish they knew when they were knew?
I'll start.
I wish I knew I could control click items in the overview to lock them. "Isk is cheap. Life is cheaper. This week, there's a sale on both." Battle Asses, Whasssuuup? |
white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
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Posted - 2008.10.30 10:51:00 -
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That nossing wrecks that aren't yours in empire gets you concordokken!!!
Originally by: CCP Navigator
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fivetide humidyear
Gallente EXCESS10N
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Posted - 2008.10.30 10:57:00 -
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that omni tanking (shield, armour and hull) is bad on the same ship.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.10.30 11:09:00 -
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That mining skills don't help at all when you go to do fun stuff. ---
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.30 11:31:00 -
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that you can drag and drop from a wreck into the little cargo hold button on the HUD, you dont need to open that cargohold and drag-drop into it
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Aeneidae
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.10.30 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow that you can drag and drop from a wreck into the little cargo hold button on the HUD, you dont need to open that cargohold and drag-drop into it
Must try this!
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.30 14:13:00 -
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That Worlds Collide isn't a good mission to have as your first ever (after the tutorial, of course).
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2008.10.30 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Maria Kalista on 30/10/2008 14:46:37 That in station you can click the little 'i' information button (located far top right) to get information on what agents you have available for that corp.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea???
Clear Skies - an EVE vid with a difference.
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highonpop
Gallente Tri-Mining Corp Ethereal Spawn
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Posted - 2008.10.30 14:51:00 -
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i wish i had known that when traveling from stargate to stargate, that you dont have to find the yellow one in the sky, you just have to right click and open the stargate drop down menu
it took me like 3 weeks to figure out i could do that _____________________ *warp drive acti...wait, where are we going?*
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Ghicolas Naspard
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Posted - 2008.10.30 15:04:00 -
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I wish I had known that EVE sucks your life away and has the tendency to become more of a job than a game...
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joxter
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.30 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: highonpop i wish i had known that when traveling from stargate to stargate, that you dont have to find the yellow one in the sky, you just have to right click and open the stargate drop down menu
it took me like 3 weeks to figure out i could do that
You can also add stargates to your overview, took me a while to get that one
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Cyprus Black
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.10.30 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Cyprus Black on 30/10/2008 15:47:44 That the Overview is completely customizable and multiple tabs can be created for various purposes. I have three tabs: Travel, Mining, and Combat.
That bookmarks can save a buttload of time.
That the assets tab is invaluable.
That it's possible to manually reload while out in space.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.30 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador That Worlds Collide isn't a good mission to have as your first ever (after the tutorial, of course).
this. :)
Also, that various drone commands can be set in the shortcut menu. Would have saved me 20.000 clicks and lots of drones. -------------------------------------------------- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles - Sun Tzu |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.10.30 15:54:00 -
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My wish is twofold;
I wish I had started playing earlier, I was in beta but back then it was so crap I just forgot about it alltogether. At the same time I wish I never started playing in the first place :P
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Mithos Victus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.30 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mithos Victus on 30/10/2008 16:34:14 There is a compare function that allows you to compare different versions of the same model (i.e. Carbine versus Compressed railguns) but I am sure most newer people do not know, you can also compare very different items.
- Open show info on an item
- Hold the shift key and open show info on another item
- You now have two show info windows side by side
- Collect tears of rookie joy in bottle
- Profit
I honestly played the game for five months before I was let on to this. Rolled a second account and noticed someone nonchalantly mention it in rookie help.
the learning... it NEVER ends...
http://go-dl3.eve-files.com/media/0803/LearningCurve.jpg
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente Snake Eyes Inc Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.10.30 16:39:00 -
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That you should BALANCE your attributes on character creation! Everything else can be learned later... but you don't want to have to re-roll your character when you change your mind on what you want to do in EVE.
I promise nothingÖ. --CCP Prism X |
Tsiros
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.30 16:43:00 -
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Wish i had started pew pew earlier
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2008.10.30 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tkar vonBiggendorf That you should BALANCE your attributes on character creation! Everything else can be learned later... but you don't want to have to re-roll your character when you change your mind on what you want to do in EVE.
This
Oh for the love of crap this
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rofflesausage
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Posted - 2008.10.30 18:09:00 -
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Use Alts for trolling. Doing it under your main is stupid
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Mithos Victus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.30 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: rofflesausage Use Alts for trolling. Doing it under your main is stupid
Good lawd watch were you point that thing, it's like it follows me whichever way I move. I am scurred.
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KInkamache
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Posted - 2008.10.30 19:12:00 -
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i would it love to know that Ctrl + Click target the rats, i actually find this out by mistake
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Deeron
Gallente Hightech Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.30 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Deeron on 30/10/2008 20:32:41 That passwords aren't effective on secure containers unless the container(s) are anchored in .7 and below.
I nice little ore thief taught me that lesson.
Also, that I could just open my GSCs within my hauler rather than jetting them out into space and I could shift click all of them. I used to jet them (5 total) one by one with the 3 minute timer between each jettison. ________________________________________________ When 900 years you reach, look as good you will! |
Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.10.30 21:28:00 -
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What Stack All meant ...
Faction Schools Orbiting vs. Kiting |
FOl2TY8
Revolutionary United Front
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Posted - 2008.10.30 23:41:00 -
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That you can show systems by pod kills, ships killed etc. in world map. ---------- The six paths and the four lives.... |
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.10.31 00:29:00 -
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What "Tanking" was.
Before losing a caracal belt ratting in a .5 system......
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Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Allan Pone
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Posted - 2008.10.31 00:39:00 -
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That there's an easier way to find new agents instead of pressing f10 and trying to search the Star Map. Select show info on your event agent. Select his corp icon, then the Alliance Icon when you get to the corp screen. Switch the tab over to member corps, select one by pressing show info and select agents tab. Then all you have to do is select set destination to find the closest to you.
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Tranka Verrane
Caldari Public Venture Enterprises Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2008.10.31 01:18:00 -
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What resistance was. Sorry, blatant plug, but true.
Ingame: Channels&Mailing lists>Channels>Join>PVE>OK |
Suboran
Gallente Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.10.31 01:50:00 -
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that dread guristas shield booster isnt trash because i couldnt sell on the market
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white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
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Posted - 2008.10.31 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Suboran that dread guristas shield booster isnt trash because i couldnt sell on the market
This....
That production of boosters was a waste before spending stupid amounts of isk on it!!!!
Originally by: CCP Navigator
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Mad Mackem
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.10.31 09:25:00 -
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That you could plug more than one implant in your head.
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ziglot
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Posted - 2008.10.31 16:36:00 -
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That low sec (0.1-0.4) is not to be feared and does not equal instant death. If you fly a shuttle or a frigate and keep moving (that is, don't use your autopilot, but continue to align and warp between gates/stations without pausing), the chances of you getting killed are pretty much zero.
Even if you encounter a bunch of flashy red hostiles at a gate, they don't have time to target you before you've moved on.
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Allvan Harl
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Posted - 2008.11.01 15:41:00 -
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That you could set default "keep distance" and "orbit" ranges by right clicking on the two icons in the "Selected target" window and typing in a value (recommend a value equal to your missile range or your gun's optimal+fall off.)
That you can easily remove something from the overview by right-clicking on it (in the overview) and choosing remove (now I don't have to wade through that long list of wrecks and corp member drones to target the next rat.)
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Vertex Eisenstein
Gallente Gruecorp
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Posted - 2008.11.01 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Vertex Eisenstein on 01/11/2008 16:08:46 That it is pretty much impossible to be podded in empire if you align to and select a celestial before your ship blows up then keep spamming the "warp to" button as you jump into your pod.
oh, and also that it is better to get an alt account early so as not to crosstrain too long.
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2008.11.01 19:28:00 -
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I wish i knew that loseing a ship really isn't that big a deal.
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Pax Scindus
Gallente Music As A Weapon THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.02 15:01:00 -
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That forming a corp with just yourself or a handful of new players doesn't work- it very well might ruin your experience with EVE. Furthermore, forming a corp in your first month of play is not the best use of your time. Finding a good corporation is the key to enjoying EVE. Fly Safe. -Pax ----------------------------------------- Pax de magnus vis vires e solum via. Without strength, there can be no peace.
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Tjita Amarr'o
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Posted - 2008.11.02 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mithos Victus Edited by: Mithos Victus on 30/10/2008 16:36:21 There is a compare function that allows you to compare different versions of the same model (i.e. T1 ship versus faction version) but I am sure most newer people do not know, you can also compare very different items.
- Open show info on an item
- Hold the shift key and open show info on another item
- You now have two show info windows side by side
- Collect tears of rookie joy in bottle
- Profit
I honestly played the game for five months before I was let on to this. Rolled a second account and noticed someone nonchalantly mention it in rookie help.
the learning... it NEVER ends...
Learning Curve
Im crying right now :) Tears of joy
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Jeesa
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Posted - 2008.11.03 04:57:00 -
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That you can stop your self-destruct sequence
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Kulmid
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.11.03 09:23:00 -
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That I could optimize waypoints. I used to try to make the most efficient route myself, which was never very efficient.
You would think CCP would have added things like, "Amarr", "CCP", "Microwarpdrive", etc. to their forum dictionary.
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Etumretniw
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.03 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pax Scindus That forming a corp with just yourself or a handful of new players doesn't work- it very well might ruin your experience with EVE. Furthermore, forming a corp in your first month of play is not the best use of your time. Finding a good corporation is the key to enjoying EVE. Fly Safe. -Pax
This.
Also, that training learning skills really helps. Took me a while to find those books.
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flashster
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:53:00 -
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I wish I knew that when I jet canned that I could open up the cargo and put more into it.
Used to jettison a new can each time my cargo filled up
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 14:00:00 -
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That the intelligence attribute didnt make you train everything faster.
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Mr Mucker
Gallente Hooride Raiders
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Posted - 2008.11.05 09:34:00 -
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This posts are funny. I am acutally learning some good tips from them.
That Infomorph technology is a useless skill to get early on. I made my first mil and bought this for 900k. My highest corp standing was 0.5 . I wasn't happy!
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Mr Mucker
Gallente Hooride Raiders
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Posted - 2008.11.05 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Mucker on 05/11/2008 09:40:17 Edited by: Mr Mucker on 05/11/2008 09:39:09 That when you getted podded your upgraded clone is used and you then get the default alpha clone back (900k skill points saved). I had already been podded then was flying round in 0.0 space with 2,800,000 skill points with not a care in the world. Lucky for me I spotted this before I learned the hard way.
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Vincenzo Delloro
Amarr Lux et Veritas
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Posted - 2008.11.05 09:50:00 -
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...that when running missions for isk and LP, agent level >>> agent quality.
I spent almost a month running missions off a L2Q20 agent because the only L3 agent I could easily find (in the same system, natch) was "only" Q14.
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Vladimir Ilych
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.11.05 12:39:00 -
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Fitting lasers to a rifter is a silly thing to do.
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.05 13:31:00 -
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That unlike civilian railguns, normal guns actually require something called ammo.
And once I figured THAT out...
that you don't need to redock to reload your ammo by dragging it in the fitting screen; you can actually put it in your cargo hold and it'll restock from there "on the fly" --
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.11.06 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Etumretniw
Originally by: Pax Scindus That forming a corp with just yourself or a handful of new players doesn't work- it very well might ruin your experience with EVE. Furthermore, forming a corp in your first month of play is not the best use of your time. Finding a good corporation is the key to enjoying EVE. Fly Safe. -Pax
This.
Also, that training learning skills really helps. Took me a while to find those books.
TBH forming a corp with a few RL friends (all of us newbs) is quite possibly the thing that got me into eve, I've not been able to spend more then a week or 2 in any corp not run by me
That being said:
I wish I had had someone to tell me to ignore everything people say about what skills you need to do certain things. I wanna slap someone across the face every time I see someone tell a new player not to fly a BS until he can fully tech II fit it...
I also had someone tell my alt today that it's a bad idea to use a domi in lvl 4s solo unless you have BS V
If you want to fly it, and can afford to lose it, fly it, you don't need to wait 8 months until you can perfectly fit it before you do. (though you should make sure you can fit it with proper sized mods first |
Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 11:24:00 -
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Things I wish I knew when I started playing EVE (PvE side):
1) Logistics are not needed. Unlike other MMOs, in EVE the tank either does their own healing, or is a fail tank.
2) DPS is king. Unlike other MMOs, tanking is braindead. Shoot the enemy first, you're tha tank. Who does most DPS doesn't matter.
3) DPS is for losers. There are far better ways to make money than to grind missions all day.
4) To fly logistics properly requires a significant investment of time. To fly a gunship proerly requires a significant investment of time. To fly a mining ship properly requires a significant investment of time. None of these career paths are synergistic. To fly a logistics boat, you will invest a huge amount of time training outside gunnery or missile operations. To fly a DPS boat, you will invest a huge amount of time within gunnery or missile operations. To run a trade operation, you will invest a huge amount of time not using weapons at all.
5) By the time you find out what style of play you prefer, it's too late to change your mind about the training you've done that won't be used.
6) Joining a corp of less than 20 people that you don't know is not going to enhance your enjoyment of the game.
7) The time to leave your current corp is when you have logged on for 7 days in a row and noone else has been online.
8) You must have some income to support your PvP habit.
9) Mining is not fun.
10) Mission running looks like fun to start with, but after you run the same 20 missions over and over again, it starts to feel an awful lot like WoW.
11) People stumbling into gate camps are often fitted out with expensive (ie: very resellable) modules.
12) EVE is a PvP game.
13) If you feel the need to post on the forums about how someone griefed you and how it's not fair... you just lost the PvP game.
14) It is better to have Yarred and lost than to never have Yarred at all!
15) you don't have to fly a battleship to be scary
16) For PvE purposes, upgrade to the next size hull first, train weapon and tanking skills later. You have more turret slots, more low slots, more medium slots, and the modules that you can fit with the bigger power grid and CPU available make your ship much, much stronger.
17) When it comes to running missions, it doesn't matter if you can only fit medium sized weaponry to your battleship. As long as you can kill NPCs without dying yourself, you're winning.
18) When it comes to PvP, it doesn't matter if you can fit T2 weapons and tank. If you don't have friends, you're going to die.
19) Half the fun of PvP is seeing how long you can last before you die.
20) In PvP, death is the only way out.
21) If you have enough friends, it's the other guys who die.
Okay. I think four standard drinks in half an hour is more than enough.
Please Mr. EVE Man, boot the server for me?
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 11:31:00 -
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oops. apparently that wasn't enough.
Did you know that you can open up "Settings", click the "General" tab, and uncheck the box that says, "try to use existing info window where possible"? Then any time you select "Show Info", you'll get a new Info window!
In fact ...
Did you know that when you press "ESC", the window that comes up can control more than just the graphics? Check out the tabs - "General" which controls things like whether "Pinned" windows (click the circle in the top right of the title bar) can be locked so you can't move them. "Shortcuts" which lets you assign keystrokes such as "All Drones Engage Target" and "All drones return to drone bay".
And talking about drones, did you know that there's special code in the PvE side of EVE that makes sure that NPCs will target your drones in preference to your ship? True story. Stupid bloody NPCs costing me 500k ISK a unit!
Okay, now I'm just whinging aren't I?
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BushRaider
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:57:00 -
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OK, shameful admission time - only realised after about 3 weeks that you can engage more than one target at a time, using different modules on each....
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Timotheus Siberius
Gallente Federation Navy Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.11.07 01:07:00 -
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That there is a skill called "Afterburner" which allows to operate modules that increase your ship's speed... This was back when there was no warp to 0 - I figured out 3 months later after I had finished my learning skills and had been traveling all day from 15km distance to the gate...in an industrial ship. * See you in space! |
Capo Ricardo
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.11.07 04:22:00 -
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This has been said more than once, but is so true. "6) Joining a corp of less than 20 people that you don't know is not going to enhance your enjoyment of the game."
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente LFC Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.07 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mal Lokrano on 07/11/2008 06:49:59
Originally by: Mr Mucker That Infomorph technology is a useless skill to get early on. I made my first mil and bought this for 900k. My highest corp standing was 0.5 . I wasn't happy!
Hehe did that one, fanfully it became useful later .
Originally by: Pax Scindus That forming a corp with just yourself or a handful of new players doesn't work- it very well might ruin your experience with EVE.
This almost happened to me but didn't force me to quit, instead it got me to a older corp. But my original corp was with friends so it wasn't all bad! We just never got anyone to stay when we recruited them.
My advice is to not be Afraid of lowsec, I was honestly scared of it when i first started playing, but now lowsec seems like a kitten compared ton 0.0 lmao.
Also look at other people's Bios, not only can they be helpful but they can be hilarious. Its one of my favorite things to do when in a random system and am bored.
My personal favorite Bio was one that said: I beta tested your sister!
i loled so hard at that one.
When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always acertain the vintage of the first two. |
Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.07 11:07:00 -
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you want to train (and buy) Shield BOOSTERS not Shield RECHARGERS ._.. ._ .._ __. .... .. _. __. __ ._ _.
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Szzznake
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Posted - 2008.11.07 11:57:00 -
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I wish I knew that no matter what ship I trained for all my hard earned skill points could be rendered semi useless by some Dev who flys a mining barge.
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Chaleban
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Posted - 2008.11.07 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
6) Joining a corp of less than 20 people that you don't know is not going to enhance your enjoyment of the game.
This is an interesting statement, especially since I'd guess that's the most common kind of corp in Eve. And the kind that a new player with no friends in the game might end up in. Any thoughts on this or other recommendations for a new player looking for a corp?
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Taima Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.07 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: ziglot That low sec (0.1-0.4) is not to be feared and does not equal instant death. If you fly a shuttle or a frigate and keep moving (that is, don't use your autopilot, but continue to align and warp between gates/stations without pausing), the chances of you getting killed are pretty much zero.
Even if you encounter a bunch of flashy red hostiles at a gate, they don't have time to target you before you've moved on.
That the above is generally true, but not really so: lost a couple of +5 implants and a +3 to a SB BS.
Originally by: Mr Mucker That Infomorph technology is a useless skill to get early on. I made my first mil and bought this for 900k. My highest corp standing was 0.5 . I wasn't happy!
That Infomorph is extremely useful since the very beginning. I have an int/mem implanted clone for fast skilling those in hisec, per/will implanted clone for fast skilling those in hisec and empty/low implants clones for lowsec/nullsec/war time skilling. My highest standing is probably something like 0.1 as I stopped missioning before ending the trial. Buy the clones from a service. Or buy a pre-made corporation (run it with an alt). Better yet: join a good corporation that will provide you JC access.
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Fitting lasers to a rifter is a silly thing to do.
That fitting guns to a Punisher can be a smart move if you have low skills.
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