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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
2050
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:26:00 -
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Buying and selling ISK is bad m-¦kay. And CCP Sreegs is here to tell you what Team Security is doing about it.
Read the blog here and let us know if you have feedback or questions for us. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
178
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:29:00 -
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First! Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
197
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:33:00 -
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Quote:We will continue to expand the scope of this to include asset seizure in the coming days which will include reclamation of supercaps... Boy, did I laugh...! Superb blog ! |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:33:00 -
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Death to all bots. |
Squall5668
Mythos Corp HELL4S
0
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:33:00 -
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OH GOD... fun times ahead |
Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
1236
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:33:00 -
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Bye bye RMTers, we didn't love you anyway. Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 |
Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
78
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:34:00 -
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needs moar graphs |
Skye Aurorae
Viziam Amarr Empire
229
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:39:00 -
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"Don't do business with people you know to be involved in RMT."
I'm handing out a lot of buddy invites, to people I'm worried what would happen if one of them ignores me and goes buying stuff for money. I mean I have ads popup alongside my youtube tutorial videos that occasionally advertise the sale of Isk and items in Eve, I have no control over these ads and I make it clear to people I invite that PLEX is the way to go but based on this devblog it's only a matter of time until some person I help out pulls me into this mess through no fault of my own.
Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so..
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gfldex
448
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:39:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:We love you if you don't cheat
You are like a mother to us! Inferno - your wallet will burn! |
Iniquita
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:40:00 -
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I support this product and/or service.
Though I know that some people are willing just to biomass the character who got the negative wallet and none of their other characters or assets (whom obviously benefited from this illicit activity) remain untouched. Hopefully in the future you will look more closely at people who purchase rmt'd isk because it seems all you need to be willing to do is biomass the character who took the initial wallet it and the person can keep any ill gotten assets they have purchased. |
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Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
181
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:40:00 -
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Sreegs is a butte |
Learath
Incendiary Industries
5
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:40:00 -
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a href="http://%20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG13u9KKtzE&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&index=9&feature=plpp_video"
Best html EVAR! |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
2050
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:42:00 -
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Learath wrote:a href="http://%20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG13u9KKtzE&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&index=9&feature=plpp_video"
Best html EVAR!
It's a security thing. I think Sreegs is paranoid that someone might actually find his video if the URL actually leads to it. But I fixed it in any case :) CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1444
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:46:00 -
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Fantastic job guys - I hope you really hammer the hell out of them. :)
Quote: Between 1-3 trillion ISK in assets siezed permanently Around 500 billion ISK in RMT transactions reversed
I see that PL was trolling over losing 15T ISK. This was expected.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
587
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:48:00 -
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Iniquita wrote:I support this product and/or service.
Though I know that some people are willing just to biomass the character who got the negative wallet and none of their other characters or assets (whom obviously benefited from this illicit activity) remain untouched. Hopefully in the future you will look more closely at people who purchase rmt'd isk because it seems all you need to be willing to do is biomass the character who took the initial wallet it and the person can keep any ill gotten assets they have purchased.
Im not going to name specifics here but I know of at least one person who has been extremely unrepentant. His wallet got hit pretty hard but he had purchased made contract purchases and was able to retain his assets. Another person simply biomassed the character with a negative wallet and plans to purchase a new character from the bazaar.
It seems a bit of an oversight that people can simply purchase isk, buy assets and pass on assets via contracts to alts to avoid the impact of what you are trying to do. Or simply biomass characters with a negative wallet and go on to purchase new characters. Maybe you should consider adding a fee to biomassing or something.
We're trying not to be too elaborate right now but we've already had situations where we've just gone ahead and moved the negative balance to a main. |
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
595
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:49:00 -
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Excellent.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Omu Matol
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
10
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:50:00 -
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Yeah I'm a little curious how far down the chain they are willing to go.
Guy buys isk from RMT'er Guy buys shiny thing (account even?) from dude Dude spend dirty isk he doesn't know is dirty on something shiny. rinse and repeat. CCP finds out about Guy. Takes away requisite amount of isk, leaving him possibly negative. What do to the trail of isk? |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:50:00 -
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ahuj9
also:
Quote:Around 105 accounts with direct ties to RMT (Real Money Trade) operations banned permanently Can you tell how many players were thought to be behind these 105 accounts? ie are we talking about shutting down 105 different players who were each using 1 account for RMT, or a handful of insane multiboxers, or what? |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
197
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:51:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Iniquita wrote:I support this product and/or service.
Though I know that some people are willing just to biomass the character who got the negative wallet and none of their other characters or assets (whom obviously benefited from this illicit activity) remain untouched. Hopefully in the future you will look more closely at people who purchase rmt'd isk because it seems all you need to be willing to do is biomass the character who took the initial wallet it and the person can keep any ill gotten assets they have purchased.
Im not going to name specifics here but I know of at least one person who has been extremely unrepentant. His wallet got hit pretty hard but he had purchased made contract purchases and was able to retain his assets. Another person simply biomassed the character with a negative wallet and plans to purchase a new character from the bazaar.
It seems a bit of an oversight that people can simply purchase isk, buy assets and pass on assets via contracts to alts to avoid the impact of what you are trying to do. Or simply biomass characters with a negative wallet and go on to purchase new characters. Maybe you should consider adding a fee to biomassing or something. We're trying not to be too elaborate right now but we've already had situations where we've just gone ahead and moved the negative balance to a main. Standing ovation...! Nice :) |
Kurai Okala
Okala Corp
5
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:51:00 -
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Cheater tears = best tears
Keep up the good work! |
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
126
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:51:00 -
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Sreegs: Can you address the concern - nay, the undeniable fact - that reporting your foes in-game, whether or not they're actually engaging in any sort of RMT, is going to become a regular tactic nowadays, all the moreso that you're offering an incentive for doing so? Will there be punitive action taken against players who spam lots of reports, especially if investigation into those reports keeps coming up negative?
My concern here is that you're going to create a whole lot of unnecessary workload for yourself investigating all kinds of false reports, which could serve to reduce your effectiveness at dealing with actual RMTers. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
177
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:53:00 -
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nice job
so much about the 15 trillion PL isk banned :P |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
587
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:54:00 -
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HELIC0N ONE wrote:ahuj9 also: Quote:Around 105 accounts with direct ties to RMT (Real Money Trade) operations banned permanently Can you tell how many players were thought to be behind these 105 accounts? ie are we talking about shutting down 105 different players who were each using 1 account for RMT, or a handful of insane multiboxers, or what?
It was a mixed bag really. I can't really estimate that right this second. |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
587
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:55:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Sreegs: Can you address the concern - nay, the undeniable fact - that reporting your foes in-game, whether or not they're actually engaging in any sort of RMT, is going to become a regular tactic nowadays, all the moreso that you're offering an incentive for doing so? Will there be punitive action taken against players who spam lots of reports, especially if investigation into those reports keeps coming up negative?
My concern here is that you're going to create a whole lot of unnecessary workload for yourself investigating all kinds of false reports, which could serve to reduce your effectiveness at dealing with actual RMTers.
I won't have the team's time wasted so you can take whatever you will from that. :)
To be honest with you this is a whole lot more advanced than I think a lot of people comprehend and this really isn't feasible. |
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
319
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:57:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Fantastic job guys - I hope you really hammer the hell out of them. :) Quote: Between 1-3 trillion ISK in assets siezed permanently Around 500 billion ISK in RMT transactions reversed
I see that PL was trolling over losing 15T ISK. This was expected. -Liang Yeah thanks for headshotting the troll sreegs :[ |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
587
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:58:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Fantastic job guys - I hope you really hammer the hell out of them. :) Quote: Between 1-3 trillion ISK in assets siezed permanently Around 500 billion ISK in RMT transactions reversed
I see that PL was trolling over losing 15T ISK. This was expected. -Liang Yeah thanks for headshotting the troll sreegs :[
You got a weekend's mileage out of it ok |
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Pyrus Octavius
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
10
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:59:00 -
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CCP Sreegs for President, and crowned Savior of EvE. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
492
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:59:00 -
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Thanks for all the hard work! |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
315
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:05:00 -
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first link to Details may be found in my Fanfest presentation located doesn't work Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
689
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:05:00 -
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I would like to wish good luck in the war on RMT |
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