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Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:48:00 -
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Sony and ccp. Well my view. Sony said have all this wonderful creative freedom, here is money make your revolutions in gaming and be big! If CCP was in such financial troubles that they did fall under an umbrella, then glad it was sony. CCP also has strong ties with Nvidia. Don't hear any complaints about that. Oh, and everything CCP develops is proprietary, so unless the company completely folds, it is all theirs. Back to if...
IF IF IF IF IF IF
there are any ties besides a "Sony loves CCP for bringing a groundbreaking exclusive F2P game to our console!" then good for ccp. It means the alternatives would have been folding or heavens forbid.
EA
Brr... feel dirty for even mentioning the plaque to game makers. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
246
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:52:00 -
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Goons = dregs of the Internet. This is just walking garbage reverting to type, nothing more.
They just had incentive to keep it hidden, before. This signature is intentionally left blank.
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
152
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:53:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:Goons = dregs of the Internet. This is just walking garbage reverting to type, nothing more.
They just had incentive to keep it hidden, before.
Why are you so mad at Goons? Did they kick your puppy? |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
246
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:54:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:Goons = dregs of the Internet. This is just walking garbage reverting to type, nothing more.
They just had incentive to keep it hidden, before. Why are you so mad at Goons? Did they kick your puppy?
Just calling 'em as I see 'em.
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
515
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Posted - 2012.04.04 06:03:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Though I'm not what you think I am anyhow. This post is merely openening discussion surrounding a recgonition with a pattern of behaviour. No, it is continuing discussion. In a different place. From the hundreds of threads on exactly the same issue that we've seen in the last week. You are not new. You are not original. There have been better variants of this thread before. Read the forums, read the anti sony posts. Read the signatures of those posting, especially those who want to see Jita burn. These are recent postings, so I think it's fair to speculate wether there is a growing anti sony sentiment and to explore options as to why that is so. The most vocal being Mittens whining in sound clouds etc about being misstreated by them and it being an influence on CCP. My interest therefore is to see whether said influences are based on legitimate concerns or predjudice and wether it's a healthy trend to see encouraged or if there are other motivations. If Goons go on record that this isnt the case then that understanding will help to waylay fears and sentiment.
Hey dude...
Goons didn't start the backlash against The Mittani, the 'general public' did.
While The Mittani was dumb in what he said, he owns it and is genuinely apologetic. The 'general public' are who blew this out of proportion and got media outside these forums involved to force a political agenda.
If you wanna have some tinfoil hat about people ruining EVE Online. Start looking towards Eve News 24.
If you wanna know who's doing their best to ruin YOUR GAME, look at The Goons and CFC.
It's not rocket surgery. |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed
166
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Posted - 2012.04.04 06:16:00 -
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The blame is always changing. I totally believe it is the ***** who is to blame with their **** agenda. Perma ban them and their ***** peddling followers. Just say no to ****!
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
154
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Posted - 2012.04.04 06:20:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:I will still can't understand how pubbie filth would think we would want to destroy the game we love to play. Ummm. Your corps actions and those of your X-chairman associate(not currently your CEO), as well as your own words.
Also the fact none of you seem to be able to stand up and say The Mittani did this, they were his actions and only he is to blame for his own actions. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
ReptilesBlade
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
16
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Posted - 2012.04.04 06:22:00 -
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Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut.
I loled! |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.04.04 06:26:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:I will still can't understand how pubbie filth would think we would want to destroy the game we love to play. Ummm. Your corps actions and those of your X-chairman associate(not currently your CEO), as well as your own words. Also the fact none of you seem to be able to stand up and say The Mittani did this, they were his actions and only he is to blame for his own actions.
It really is tough to call the goon's actions as a whole. There were quite a few in the start of it after it got around that were more of the, let it slide leave it to the ones who make the rules. Then there is also the fact that... where are the goon trollers now? I think internally there has been a shakeup to shut up and get to burning ships. Goon's image as being the Aholes of space is pretty much shot right now. Just posting even something saying they concur would start a pretty big flame war. Let them burn raiden or whomever they are fighting right now out. A few more empires. I like goons better as a silent plague on the galaxy, just not in my systems :p |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
153
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:00:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:Goons = dregs of the Internet. This is just walking garbage reverting to type, nothing more.
They just had incentive to keep it hidden, before. Why are you so mad at Goons? Did they kick your puppy? Just calling 'em as I see 'em.
So you're saying you hate goons because they are goons. Okay. What other kinds of prejudicial ideations do you have? |
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
519
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:05:00 -
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I'm curious how SONY is going to read this "interact with the Playstation" feature of EVE + Dust. All those Playstations going out to the kiddies this Christmas. All those kiddies running to mommy saying, "It's free to play, mom!" All those mommies...
Does SONY know what it's getting with CCP?
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
524
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:26:00 -
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Oh look another thread about how goons and teh cfc are bad for eve and should be banned. Get over yourselves already, if you want the CFC out of Eve, kick us out yourselves stop asking ccp to do it.
GSF wanting to harm CCP? Wanting Eve to die? really? you bunch of idiots. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
577
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:44:00 -
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Have to agree both with OP's final statement and the Goon above me.
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Irisa Selenia
Capital Consortium Partners One Stop Research
12
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:19:00 -
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I agree with OP, my main got a 2 week forum ban for sending copies of the fanfest video to Sony executives :(
Hmmm I guess I should have sent them to the Icelandic government instead.... |
Jaryd Le'line
0
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:33:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Sony and ccp. Well my view. Sony said have all this wonderful creative freedom, here is money make your revolutions in gaming and be big! If CCP was in such financial troubles that they did fall under an umbrella, then glad it was sony. CCP also has strong ties with Nvidia. Don't hear any complaints about that. Oh, and everything CCP develops is proprietary, so unless the company completely folds, it is all theirs. Back to if...
IF IF IF IF IF IF
there are any ties besides a "Sony loves CCP for bringing a groundbreaking exclusive F2P game to our console!" then good for ccp. It means the alternatives would have been folding or heavens forbid.
EA
Brr... feel dirty for even mentioning the plaque to game makers.
Imho Sony isn't exactly much better than EA, they're a totally unethical company (though they've not always been, unlike EA). The worst is Sony drives its own games into the ground. They've racked up a nice list of semi-failed MMOs because they don't understand that you need to keep updating long running games after release (and not just with bland content expansions).
The best example is EverQuest 2. This game still probably has the most content of any (non-sandbox) MMO, but it's plagued by bugs, the "we want to be WoW"-disease and a horribly outdated engine. On top of that the F2P "version" of the game is a total ripoff and even worse, subscribers to the paid "version" (they're exactly the same game, though SOE likes to consider them separately) can't even play with full options on the F2P servers, effectively cutting them off from people they introduce to the game but that start out on the F2P server (unless you want to suffer through a gimped experience, even though you already paid for the content...).
SOE customer support was the worst I'd encountered until I tried SWToR (though you could actually make quite a good argument for SWToR not even having customer support).
The one thing SOE had sorta going for it is that they still tried new stuff (Vanguard for example) but then they fail to provide any form of continued support to the devs of said game and instead of playing to a game's strengths or be content with a niche market (as EVE does, this game is not for everyone, nor is it meant to be) they pull the plug or force it to be WoW-ified (because they think that's what the market needs/wants: another WoW-copy).
Would Microsoft have been better? Doubtful, but at least they have proven to know how to make good games. |
Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 10:31:00 -
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I see some people blowing off steam in defence of Goons, but very little opinion about the topic related matter.
Actually want to wade into the topic with your view of how you see Sony and its relationship with CCP? Will you actually go on record with your views? |
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:47:00 -
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You dudes just DO NOT know how to drop anything.
IT.
IS.
OVER. Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:49:00 -
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And, there is nothing to 'see' in the relationship between sony and CCP. They are doing a fine job of coordinating the interaction of Dust and EVE.
It's the mittani and his sycophants that want to destroy the games themselves and leave us twisting in the wind. That's THEIR words. Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |
Grumpy Owly
584
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Posted - 2012.04.04 12:37:00 -
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Sony + CCP = Dust 514 great stuff, hope to see it on PC soon (TM).
Who knows where the realtionship may end up, assuming the EVE universe doesn't lose it's character in the process. Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:11:00 -
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can't wait for sony to get their hands on eve, given their history of running such successful MMOs like EverQuest and SWG
I eagerly await "new game enhancements" |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5908
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:21:00 -
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NowGǪ people do realise that Sony has nothing to do with CCP's products, right? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
57
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:40:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Show a little flexibility. Thought i was by discussing it with you? I have given you an opportunity to clarify your current views. Not my fault if originally you just wanted to brush the opportunity under the carpet. So here is a perfect opportunity to "knit wounds" as a result. And I mean that both ways. Of course you could just continue with your need to marganalise yourselves further? You might want to read my post again bro.
I think in between reading your well reasoned post and continually glancing back at your alliance tag his brain just broke. Hence the incoherent babble he spewed in 'retort'.
edit- the idea that GSF (or sometimes the whole CFC) isn't an amorphous blob with a single opinion is just too much for some people. Weird isn't it? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1459
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:45:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:So do Goons now believe that CCP in conjunction with SONY didnt throw the Mittani "under a bus"?
Seems to have been a re-ccuring message, and now posts are popping up with similar sentiment to make people feel "bad" about the developers.
Will the Goons actually go on record as being in support of CCP and Sony? This isn't a black and white issue so stop trying to force it to be one. Many goon believe CCP threw Mittani under a bus. Many goons support CCP. These are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups. Many goons have mixed feelings about Sony. I personally think what CCP did to Mittens was a little too extreme. Removing him from the CSM for making an ass of himself at a player gathering is fine, especially after Mittani owned up to his mistake and was open to being kicked off the CSM. Banning his character for a month for an idiotic thing said outside of the game was dumb. I still think CCP has done some incredible things with the game in the past year and I really hope they continue to focus on spaceships in space. I don't own a PS3 so will not be playing DUST. As long as Sony isn't planning on buying out CCP or forcing their way on to CCP's board, I'm completely indifferent to them. See, not black and white. Human beings are capable of being complex special snowflakes. Show a little flexibility. It is black and white. Mittani fuckied up. Mittani got punished. Black. White.
He was not "thrown under a bus". He did a bad thing and CCP had to take action. Period. It's like you expect CCP to take a bad rap for something they did not do. You simply aren't willing to take responsibility for your own actions so you try to make it look like someone else is at fault instead. The only people that believe otherwise are Goons and Goon pets. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
57
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:47:00 -
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See, someone else who can't read...
The dude was trying to explain that people within GSF have differing opinions on the whole thing. Hence not black and white. |
baltec1
1024
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:56:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:
Will the Goons actually go on record as being in support of CCP and Sony?
On behalf of Bat Country I can say that we <3 CCP and are loving the rampage they are currently on against the bots and RMT whores infesting this terrible internet spaceship game which we love dearly. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5909
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Posted - 2012.04.04 13:56:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:It's like you expect CCP to take a bad rap for something they did not do. No. Quite the opposite: he's expecting CCP not to take a bad rap for something they didn't do GÇö after all, why would they? So why do they have to protect themselves to such a degree against a bad rap that they're not very likely to get to begin with?
Also, as others have pointed out, you rather missed what the black-or-white issue is (or, rather, why it isn't as simple as black or white). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.04.04 14:03:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:It is black and white. Mittani fuckied up. Mittani got punished. Black. White.
He was not "thrown under a bus". He did a bad thing and CCP had to take action. Period. It's like you expect CCP to take a bad rap for something they did not do. You simply aren't willing to take responsibility for your own actions so you try to make it look like someone else is at fault instead. The only people that believe otherwise are Goons and Goon pets.
Are you still bitter about teh Goonies kicking your old alliance out of Deklein |
Ravan Hekki
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
16
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:49:00 -
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Im not sure about the figures...but dont 15% of players use the forums and the other 85% enjoy the game? |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:57:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut. Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously disccusing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting. Just post on whatever main you have in whatever alliance hates Goons. Really we don't care. Too many to choose from I guess? lol There, now that your bias is public we can let this thread die a peaceful death.
what do assumptions make you? Ravan Hekki: "Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears." especially Goon tears
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Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2012.04.04 15:59:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Regular EVE players did not hurt CCP's reputation in front of Sony and thousands of players who were either present or watching a streaming video feed, a single person named "The Mittani" did that. Everyone should do well to remember it, and goons and their pets should "deal with it".
this... times a thousan Stop deflecting blame Accepting it once and then deflecting it in every quote afterwards and getting the Goons to cyberbully the media to change or remove their stories you dont like doesnt make you the big man you think it does. It makes YOU a TOO Ravan Hekki: "Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears." especially Goon tears
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