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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
205
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:45:00 -
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CCP needs to charge for jet-cans. Not much, just 0.01isk would be fine. Such a little change could bring so many a tear to folks that have a negative wallet balance.
Yeah, yeah, F&I is that way... I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3645
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:46:00 -
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I approve of this and thats not an easy thing to get out of me in FnI.
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Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
70
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:47:00 -
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I like it a lot, bring on more botter tears. Roses are red. Bacon is also red. Poems are hard. Bacon. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
287
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:51:00 -
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This....
Oh a thousand times this! Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
109
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:54:00 -
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Brilliant. You are the man. We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
246
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:55:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:I approve of this and thats not an easy thing to get out of me in FnI.
But you're not in F&I! |
Ch3244
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
10
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:55:00 -
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I disagree. Less rules. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
205
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:57:00 -
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Just tweeted CCP_Diagoras... need to find out how many jets cans are launched a day. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3645
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Posted - 2012.04.04 16:59:00 -
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More isk sinks :P
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
501
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:01:00 -
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Should let players make them. they could be 0.1 in size in cargo and space magic poof when you deploy them, would be even less space magic than today's cans. Even if they only take 100 trit and 100 pyer to make. Would add a much needed consumable to Eve. |
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bornaa
GRiD.
171
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:01:00 -
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Not just about botters. Nice ISK sink. Make it so that it costs few thousands ISK. No one thinks when launching it so there must be large number of it launched per day. One more ISK sink - happier EVE economy guys - healthier EVE economy. That Ain't Right |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1461
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:04:00 -
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Make it more. 1 million ISK! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:07:00 -
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Dynamic Cans?! I approve 0.01 isk per every 0.01m3 used in the jettison. The can wouldn't have spare room either. That should end the complains about idiot pilots in SWA getting can flipped.
-Vix |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
516
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:11:00 -
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The isk sink debate
1. No more insurance, you actually are charged for having your rifter blown out from under you. 2. Killmails and Lossmails require "service" fees to aquire, why should you get it for free ? 3. Remove med clones, but still charge for getting your pod blown up. BTW, I said remove med clones so no more updating SP and you still lose it when your egg is crushed. Also on that note, SP loss on ship destruction for every ship not just T3. 4. ??? 5. PROFIT! Fixed the Risk sink in EVE and everyone loses. Pay for losing your own ship, pay for getting a killmail, pay extra for the lossmail you also aquired for losing your ship, pay a straight up charge everytime you are podded instead of bothering with that pesky manual update, also lose SP when your ship is blown upor pod is destroyed since EVE isn't fair. So, by losing an expensive ship you are sinking isk and by risk, so everyone feels a terrible loss and knows what risk adversion is.
Brilliant I say! |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:12:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:CCP needs to charge for jet-cans. Not much, just 0.01isk would be fine. Such a little change could bring so many a tear to folks that have a negative wallet balance.
Yeah, yeah, F&I is that way... Sadistic. We approve. EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:14:00 -
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Stellar Vix wrote:Dynamic Cans?! I approve 0.01 isk per every 0.01m3 used in the jettison. The can wouldn't have spare room either. That should end the complains about idiot pilots in SWA getting can flipped.
-Vix But... But... But then Rick would haev to find other means of finding PvP opportunities in hi-sec.
EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
519
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:15:00 -
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Holy... s***...
Why aren't we doing this NOW?!
/Signed and +1 to you OP!
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Virgil Travis
GWA Corp
72
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:15:00 -
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bornaa wrote:Not just about botters. Nice ISK sink. Make it so that it costs few thousands ISK. No one thinks when launching it so there must be large number of it launched per day. One more ISK sink - happier EVE economy guys - healthier EVE economy.
Or give it to players to build it with 0.1 volume so you must buy it on market before using it. More job for players. (and look at all containers in this category)
Anything is better then now.
The real point of his idea is to prevent botters with negative wallets from being able to continue, this wouldn't cause any problems for real miners but those caught botting and given negative wallets would be effectively useless since they can't use the market or continue mining. Roses are red. Bacon is also red. Poems are hard. Bacon. |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:17:00 -
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Subdolus Venator wrote:Stellar Vix wrote:Dynamic Cans?! I approve 0.01 isk per every 0.01m3 used in the jettison. The can wouldn't have spare room either. That should end the complains about idiot pilots in SWA getting can flipped.
-Vix But... But... But then Rick would haev to find other means of finding PvP opportunities in hi-sec.
He joined RvB he should be having targets everywhere.
You can still can flip just steal the entire can they leave out and rejettison your own. I'm going to suggest the milita for him though I think he's going to get more miserable afterwards.
-Vix |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1459
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:17:00 -
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I don't see the gain from this ...
I wouldn't see it if the charge was a million isk either, but that's an amount i'd be happy with, just because... *lol*
Edit: Nevermind ... more posts came up just when i wrote this one.
I like that idea ! :D (make it a million isk !) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:21:00 -
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Stellar Vix wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote:Stellar Vix wrote:Dynamic Cans?! I approve 0.01 isk per every 0.01m3 used in the jettison. The can wouldn't have spare room either. That should end the complains about idiot pilots in SWA getting can flipped.
-Vix But... But... But then Rick would haev to find other means of finding PvP opportunities in hi-sec. He joined RvB he should be having targets everywhere. You can still can flip just steal the entire can they leave out and rejettison your own. I'm going to suggest the milita for him though I think he's going to get more miserable afterwards. -Vix This should be interesting. EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Skingrapht Amari
Black Magic Holdings Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:30:00 -
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You could still get around this with a negative wallet balance by killing a rat and using its wreck like a can right? Someone has to play devils advocate . |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:35:00 -
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Skingrapht Amari wrote:You could still get around this with a negative wallet balance by killing a rat and using its wreck like a can right? Someone has to play devils advocate . Sure - but it makes the whole business effectively so cumbersome as to make work-arounds punishment in their own right. Grinding out of negative territory is going to be ugly as it is - having to create wrecks to stash your stuff, then shuttling back-n-forth will only make it worse.
EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:40:00 -
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Don't even need to charge for it.. Just like with station trade, it's not taxed/charged, but you still need a balance 0 or higher to do it. Just make cans the same way.
Likewise for use of Orca or POS's.. Make it as painful as you can to move stuff to another toon/account/person. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2042
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:49:00 -
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Subdolus Venator wrote:Skingrapht Amari wrote:You could still get around this with a negative wallet balance by killing a rat and using its wreck like a can right? Someone has to play devils advocate . Sure - but it makes the whole business effectively so cumbersome as to make work-arounds punishment in their own right. Grinding out of negative territory is going to be ugly as it is - having to create wrecks to stash your stuff, then shuttling back-n-forth will only make it worse.
Actually you can only take things out of NPC wrecks. You can't put things in them. I haven't tried to put anything in to a player wrecks, so I don't know if they work similarly or not. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
212
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:51:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote:Skingrapht Amari wrote:You could still get around this with a negative wallet balance by killing a rat and using its wreck like a can right? Someone has to play devils advocate . Sure - but it makes the whole business effectively so cumbersome as to make work-arounds punishment in their own right. Grinding out of negative territory is going to be ugly as it is - having to create wrecks to stash your stuff, then shuttling back-n-forth will only make it worse. Actually you can only take things out of NPC wrecks. You can't put things in them. I haven't tried to put anything in to a player wrecks, so I don't know if they work similarly or not.
No cannot use NPC wrecks as cans. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:52:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote:Skingrapht Amari wrote:You could still get around this with a negative wallet balance by killing a rat and using its wreck like a can right? Someone has to play devils advocate . Sure - but it makes the whole business effectively so cumbersome as to make work-arounds punishment in their own right. Grinding out of negative territory is going to be ugly as it is - having to create wrecks to stash your stuff, then shuttling back-n-forth will only make it worse. Actually you can only take things out of NPC wrecks. You can't put things in them. I haven't tried to put anything in to a player wrecks, so I don't know if they work similarly or not. No you cannot use NPC wrecks as cans. Ah. I am instructed. EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate. |
Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
49
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:53:00 -
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I always thought that the size of jet cans should be the same size as the cargo hold of the ship jettisoning it. Shouldn't be too difficult to implement and coupled with a 'space litter' charge of 1isk - 100isk per m3 would add an interesting dynamic to the game.
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Full Impact
Kador Systems TriMark Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:58:00 -
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/signed
This idea is great and op is a genius.
Not only does it mean players with negative wallets cannot jet cans to bot, but it will also see and end to high sec suicide ganks. Just transfer all isk to alt before flying, which means that when you get popped a can can't be jettisoned and all cargo goes poof |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.04.04 18:00:00 -
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You used to be able to put items into a can and it autoflipped the can considering it as stolen making you shoot the can's owner.
I think that bug lasted only a day when it was found and complained about.
-Vix SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program |
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