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Arthur Frayn
Root.
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Posted - 2012.04.06 10:00:00 -
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Spacebar Chelien wrote:And to everyone that says I'm a hypocrite for ganking in null-sec, I don't follow that line of reasoning.
No, you don't seem to follow much at all, do you?
Spacebar Chelien wrote:As far as I knew, null-sec was the pvp zone, high sec was a safe place, and low sec was somewhere in-between.
YOU KNEW WRONG, B¦ûTCH |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
229
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Posted - 2012.04.06 10:57:00 -
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Brisco County wrote:Only flying what you can afford to lose is a bs cliche. Fly whatever you want. Worst case scenario you have to take your insurance payout and run a few missions in a cruiser to make some isk back. But if you are fine with that, then you can afford to lose the ship.
"Can afford to lose" does not mean "can afford to immediately replace out of your wallet". It means "can lose and go on playing". You might have a fancy ship you got from somewhere cheap and while you enjoy it you do not intend to replace if it gets blown up - you can easily afford to get it blown up, even if your wallet figure is way below it's total price. On the other hand, you might have saved your first Rifter evah and be so emotionally attached to it that if you lost it, you'd throw a tantrum and quit. You cannot afford to lose that Rifter, even though you could easily buy a dozen similar ones.
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Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.04.06 11:00:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: On the other hand, you might have saved your first Rifter evah and be so emotionally attached to it that if you lost it, you'd throw a tantrum and quit. You cannot afford to lose that Rifter, even though you could easily buy a dozen similar ones.
I still have my first Rifter, still got my first Thasher to, would be gutted to lose them, they saw me through the first couple of months without assploding on me.
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Sonny Dang
EVE University Ivy League
17
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:30:00 -
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This is why EVE is nothing like other MMOs. If you feel that you've wasted your time playing this game then I'm sorry for you.
If you said that you've already quit the game and don't want to have anything to do with it anymore then why are you still posting on this thread? Trying to pick out a few freebies perhaps?
If you still want to play the game then my advise to you would be to join some corporation to your liking and get some help. After all, that's why corps are for right? To have fun and to help each other. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
229
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:36:00 -
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Quote:I still have my first Rifter, still got my first Thasher to, would be gutted to lose them, they saw me through the first couple of months without assploding on me. If I still had my first Rifter, I'd never undock in it I think. But I don't, because I got it exploded and lost my first clone too, like a total noob, thinking that you can just take a ship and a bunch of noob friends and go sight-seeing in zero sec. Didn't have time to see what got us. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1282
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Posted - 2012.04.06 15:51:00 -
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Spacebar Chelien wrote:Never haul shiny stuff inside less shiny stuf -Ok, great. But doing this was the only way I found of making a reasonable amount of isk without making me want to shoot myself A lot of it depends on what you're hauling. I've made good money hauling 0.1 m3 items in shuttles. Know how to fly and what gates to avoid and you'll generally do okay.
Spacebar Chelien wrote:Never look away from your screen -Good lesson. All I have to do is live my life in fear of that one time when I'm doing something the least bit risky and I have to answer the door Or when you need to answer the door, log out in space or dock up.
Spacebar Chelien wrote:Don't put all your eggs in one basket -Ok, but again doing this was the only way I found to make isk. I want to fly shiny stuff. Nothing too fancy, but I don't want to be flying around in a tier 1 frigate for months doing the dirty work for people in much nicer ships Always have reserves. ALWAYS. Don't risk more than half of what you have in a venture (until you know what you're doing and have the isk to spare...I keep about 75% of mine invested). If you're spending months in T1 frigates, you need to find a better means of generating isk. There are a LOT of ways to do that and you should try more of them.
Spacebar Chelien wrote:So maybe I could get back into it. I'm thinking about it, the responses in this thread have been very positive and its shown that the community is a lot better than I thought.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.06 19:16:00 -
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I remember when I lost my first frigate.
Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1394
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Posted - 2012.04.06 21:21:00 -
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As usual, another victim not of non-consensual PVP, but of stupid ship loss.
Yes, PVP is expensive when you do nothing but blob and get blobbed. Eve, they say, is not like a FPS game where you lose nothing and respawn with everything, but why do so many people play like it is and fly into certain death?
Stupid ship loss is the root of many evils, the need to bot, grind incursions, RMT. All because people won't treat the sandbox like a sandbox and think outside of the box. It's like all those dumb yuppies being stuck on the same highway every day at the same time and it never occurs to them to try another route.
Yes there are lot of FCs and 0.0 overlords who run their fleets like 18th century aristocrats (whose real goal was to thin the population) but you don' have to be their fodder.
And yes, camp and blob tactics are a detriment to the game, but CCP appears to be working on that. The supercap hotdrop is on it's way out.
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Sonny Dang
EVE University Ivy League
17
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Posted - 2012.04.06 21:39:00 -
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I remember when I first got suicide ganked and podded ... all that went through my head what "well **** ... oh well" and then I hunted for the killrights =)) fun time |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
79
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Posted - 2012.04.06 22:24:00 -
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"My God, it's full of tears" On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |
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Keno Skir
110
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Posted - 2012.04.07 10:40:00 -
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Write down the names of you attackers.
Now you have an end-game.
Welcome to EvE. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Ambrynni McNeil
Bacon.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.07 11:01:00 -
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Hmmn well I have just upgraded a 60 day trial, so I'm a new player too.
All I can say is, there is no point quitting. You have learned a lot already, you made a hell of a lot of money for a new character, I'm a bit jealous actually XD
Quitting will probably only get a few laughs out of the guy that ganked you. You can make that money again. You seem to be just rejecting every piece of advice people are sending your way in this thread so if you really have your heart set on quitting, go ahead and don't take anyones advice. But people here are trying to help and encourage you!
So think about it- It's just a game, you will lose ships, you will lose money. But it isn't the end of the world.
I'm looking forward to playing and I am expecting a few losses along the way so don't feel bad, I think you did very well for yourself. Just don't spend all your money on one go XD |
Mister LEM0NS
SWARTA Mostly Clueless
2
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Posted - 2012.04.10 23:35:00 -
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I had no idea what the colored numbers meant when I started playing EVE, just that the lower they went the better the stuff rats would drop was. I was with my buddy, me in a supremely fail-fit caracal, and him in a cormorant. We went to a belt and played with the NPC cruisers running about. A caracal warped in, instantaneously warp scrambled us both, neuted me, wiped out my buddy like nothing, and turned his sights on me. Being that it was a trial I couldnt give him the ISK he asked so he took made sure I wouldnt have it either and kapweted my carafail.
I hated that guy, for about a month... After I started working my way up in the world, I sent him a message, a thank you message. He tought me how fail my fits actually were, and now you could say were 'friends', though he is still a bit of a jerk taking the newbs out on 'lowsec runs' with a drake almost completely fitted with warp scrams in the meds...
Point is, you have to start somewhere. You got a battleship taken from you in lowsec, why even use a battleship to make the cash? Battlecruisers do the job just as well at 1/3rd the price. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
183
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Posted - 2012.04.11 05:42:00 -
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Spacebar Chelien wrote:So today after playing for about 2 months I have deiced to quit Eve. I didn't really want to but I couldn't bring myself to keep playing this game. Where to start?
I love PvP. Its why I play video games, and its what drew me to this game. Unfortunately, PvP is also expensive, especially for new players. So in order to make enough isk to buy myself some ships to get blown up I picked up trading. Just simple buy low, sell high stuff. I was making pretty decent isk doing it too, and after a couple weeks I had made about 300 million. Today I found a pretty good trade from Dodixie to Jita and decided to buy up 300 million worth of stuffs to haul. Yes, I spent almost all my isk. Was that stupid? In hindsight, yes. However I had run trades like this dozens of times without running into any problems whatsever.
Anyways about halfway through my route (I was not auto-piloting), I tabbed out to pick a new song and check my email quickly. When I tabbed back in, I was sitting in my pod. Turns out some guy in a tornado popped me within seconds in high sec. Just like that, I lost weeks of work.
I have quite an extensive history playing online games. I used to play a lot of WoW, I play tons of Dota and LoL, and am a top-level SC2 player. In all my years, I have never seen a more pathetic excuse for PvP than what I saw today. All I wanted to do was have some fun peacefully trading some goods between systems so that I could make enough isk to go do some actual PvP. On a good day I'll maybe make a tiny fraction as much as those farming bots that I see in null sec all the time. Instead I lost pretty much everything I had. Two weeks of work, and all somebody has to do is press a couple of buttons while I'm tabbed out and it's gone. PvP is supposed to be about out-smarting and out-playing your opponent. Whatever happened today, I don't know what to call that.
So I hopped into my battleship, flew it into null sec, and got it blown up. Then I quit.
Let me tell you a story about losing an Orca filled with everything I owned at the time during the Goonswarm Delve Evacuation to a single Dramiel in highsec. |
Otrebla Utrigas
Space Bastards
2
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Posted - 2012.04.11 13:56:00 -
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I can't belive you are a "top SC2 player" and rants about being killed in an Indy ship carrying all your items.
I'm sure you are just another Bronze who cries because mass voidrays are not the best "i win" composition on the game.
Eve is relaxing and fun compared to competitive SC2, usually because if you fight in EVE is because someone decided he can win you (and usually he will) or you are doing the same. No balanced, same skill fights which tend to plague B.net and make people suffering of "ladder anxiety"
Grow up, or just go back to LoL, a game so bad that even its name is a to laugh at. |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2012.04.11 14:11:00 -
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Spacebar Chelien wrote:So today after playing for about 2 months I have deiced to quit Eve. I didn't really want to but I couldn't bring myself to keep playing this game. Where to start?
I love PvP. Its why I play video games, and its what drew me to this game. Unfortunately, PvP is also expensive, especially for new players. So in order to make enough isk to buy myself some ships to get blown up I picked up trading. Just simple buy low, sell high stuff. I was making pretty decent isk doing it too, and after a couple weeks I had made about 300 million. Today I found a pretty good trade from Dodixie to Jita and decided to buy up 300 million worth of stuffs to haul. Yes, I spent almost all my isk. Was that stupid? In hindsight, yes. However I had run trades like this dozens of times without running into any problems whatsever.
Anyways about halfway through my route (I was not auto-piloting), I tabbed out to pick a new song and check my email quickly. When I tabbed back in, I was sitting in my pod. Turns out some guy in a tornado popped me within seconds in high sec. Just like that, I lost weeks of work.
I have quite an extensive history playing online games. I used to play a lot of WoW, I play tons of Dota and LoL, and am a top-level SC2 player. In all my years, I have never seen a more pathetic excuse for PvP than what I saw today. All I wanted to do was have some fun peacefully trading some goods between systems so that I could make enough isk to go do some actual PvP. On a good day I'll maybe make a tiny fraction as much as those farming bots that I see in null sec all the time. Instead I lost pretty much everything I had. Two weeks of work, and all somebody has to do is press a couple of buttons while I'm tabbed out and it's gone. PvP is supposed to be about out-smarting and out-playing your opponent. Whatever happened today, I don't know what to call that.
So I hopped into my battleship, flew it into null sec, and got it blown up. Then I quit.
Didn't anyone ever tell you to "not put all your eggs in one basket?"
EVE does not hold your hand, and it is a long term game. Simply put it is not for everyone, and that is fine. Plenty other games out there.
As for making isk? Don't blame others, you sucked at it, easy as that. You had too little patience and did too little research. Learn from it and do better next time, don't act like a little spoiled brat. |
Herr Ronin
ISN Management
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:33:00 -
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Gantz Tleilax wrote:I get ships blown up every night in pvp, the cost is about 500,000 isk, and probably 650,000 isk with fittings. Your smoking crack if you think pvp is expensive.
Oh yes.. Thats rite.. You fly Frig's in high sec in blobs.. My bad...
Frigs.. Wow...
Deadspace a Vindicator and learn to have some fun. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
19
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:56:00 -
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please leave. never come back. reroll Panda |
Brodit
Dark Harlequin
3
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:21:00 -
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Okay, so hauling afk = driving your people carrier from the backseat, reading a newspaper whilst on your mobile. In other words you die AND it's your own fault. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
188
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Posted - 2012.04.13 06:17:00 -
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Herr Ronin wrote:Gantz Tleilax wrote:I get ships blown up every night in pvp, the cost is about 500,000 isk, and probably 650,000 isk with fittings. Your smoking crack if you think pvp is expensive.
Oh yes.. Thats rite.. You fly Frig's in high sec in blobs.. My bad... Frigs.. Wow... Deadspace a Vindicator and learn to have some fun.
Yes, deadspace and oficer fit a Vindi and take it into a fleet fight so you can be primaried instantly. I can see how fun that woulds be not getting off any shots in your pimpmobile. |
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Lord Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:43:00 -
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How did you play long enough to earn 300m without knowing there aren't safe zones in Eve? Autopiloting in a fragile T1 indie full to the brim with loot is just asking for it. If you were actually at the keyboard and warping manually it never would have happened.
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Talon Jasra
Comtie Command Emission Generation
1
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:18:00 -
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Lord Dravius wrote:How did you play long enough to earn 300m without knowing there aren't safe zones in Eve? Autopiloting in a fragile T1 indie full to the brim with loot is just asking for it. If you were actually at the keyboard and warping manually it never would have happened.
This isn't the case. Even flying manually a t1 industrial can be locked and alpha'd before it can warp away. Had it happen once, lost 500mil. I then, turned back around and bought everything again, but put it in a covops transport and flew through lowsec just to avoid the Uedama/Niarja grinder. |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
77
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Posted - 2012.04.21 20:00:00 -
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Spacebar Chelien wrote:I'm a wow noob why is HS not safe!
Okay wow noob... you got ganked... it was not pvp... it was to make money
You wanted to make money trading ****... and you just said you TABBED OUT OF THE GAME... so... you Fed yourself...
the guy blew you up to make some isk...
You want to quit have fun BAIIIIIIII.
"Top sc2 player" Top ******** eve player
Look you have two tops awards noa LOL |
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