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MissBolyai
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:16:00 -
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Gentle goons,
This thread will be the place that you can bring your questions and concerns to the CSM. I will take all of your suggestions to elise or seleene, so feel free to hit me up here with your questions. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1900
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:19:00 -
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MissBolyai wrote:Gentle goons,
This thread will be the place that you can bring your questions and concerns to the CSM. I will take all of your suggestions to elise or seleene, so feel free to hit me up here with your questions.
Lies you are just going to print them out and make a collage of e-misery to print out on your bedroom wall to point and laugh at!
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1123
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:19:00 -
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MissBolyai wrote:Gentle goons,
This thread will be the place that you can bring your questions and concerns to the CSM. I will take all of your suggestions to elise or seleene, so feel free to hit me up here with your questions.
Uh both are solid CSM delegates so I don't know if you're trying to do some clumsy troll or something but ok? |
MissBolyai
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:22:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:MissBolyai wrote:Gentle goons,
This thread will be the place that you can bring your questions and concerns to the CSM. I will take all of your suggestions to elise or seleene, so feel free to hit me up here with your questions. Uh both are solid CSM delegates so I don't know if you're trying to do some clumsy troll or something but ok? I will be proof-reading your thoughts before they make it to elise. |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1123
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:23:00 -
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MissBolyai wrote:Vile rat wrote:MissBolyai wrote:Gentle goons,
This thread will be the place that you can bring your questions and concerns to the CSM. I will take all of your suggestions to elise or seleene, so feel free to hit me up here with your questions. Uh both are solid CSM delegates so I don't know if you're trying to do some clumsy troll or something but ok? I will be proof-reading your thoughts before they make it to elise.
Friend, I have a direct line to THE MAN. |
MissBolyai
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:25:00 -
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He's too busy banning tengus and collecting nickels for the mcdonald's dollar menu to help. |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1124
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Posted - 2012.04.05 13:27:00 -
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MissBolyai wrote:He's too busy banning tengus and collecting nickels for the mcdonald's dollar menu to help.
I hope he shows up with his seer sucker pimp suit to the summit again. That owned. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:09:00 -
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Why would I not just speak to them directly? Who are you exactly? And why are we referring to Seleene as he? |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:29:00 -
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for the same reason we refer to jade constantine as "he" (they're dudes and it'd be pretty creepy) |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:33:00 -
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although it doesn't matter much in the case of jade; he moonlights as the madame of a space brothel and is pretty much off the creepiness scale |
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1901
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:41:00 -
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VCBee 180 wrote:although it doesn't matter much in the case of jade; he moonlights as the madame of a space brothel and is pretty much off the creepiness scale
not quite as "creepy" as spam mailing a person's rl place of employment with the accusation they sell internet sex for money though is it little goon. Or indeed as "creepy" as putting an eve enemies rl picture on a goonwiki where he is described as being a child sex offender.
Lets face it. on the "creepy" scale the cyber stalker goons redefine the word into something truly grim.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:59:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:VCBee 180 wrote:although it doesn't matter much in the case of jade; he moonlights as the madame of a space brothel and is pretty much off the creepiness scale not quite as "creepy" as spam mailing a person's rl place of employment with the accusation they sell internet sex for money though is it little goon. Or indeed as "creepy" as putting an eve enemies rl picture on a goonwiki where he is described as being a child sex offender. Lets face it. on the "creepy" scale the cyber stalker goons redefine the word into something truly grim.
In fact,there is only accusations of you being terrible leader of csm(which is true because person with your personality traits should not be allowed to lead even ant farm)and link to your disgusting eve-cyber-sex roleplaying something....
Yes and jokes about how you look,thats terrible and it makes people who laugh at you straight stalkers,or atleast your imagination works like this.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1901
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Posted - 2012.04.06 02:39:00 -
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PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: In fact,there is only accusations of you being terrible leader of csm(which is true because person with your personality traits should not be allowed to lead even ant farm)and link to your disgusting eve-cyber-sex roleplaying something....
I'm honestly not surprised you are posting under a ridiculous-named alt because your opinions are rather laughable. I mean lets face it, compared to actually finishing a CSM term as chair with universal good-press and getting the majority of one's campaign goals into the development cycle your latest fail leader falls rather short on the achievement fronts yes?
As for cybersex blah blah blah yada yada yada. Four years of pressing that line in RL harrassment hasn't really made up for the fact there isn't a single tasty chat log of this alleged cyber madame scandal doing the rounds. La Maison was an IC nightclub run the founders of Jericho Fraction in 2003 that we mostly used or war declarations and live events.
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: Yes and jokes about how you look,thats terrible and it makes people who laugh at you straight stalkers,or atleast your imagination works like this.But to be honest,if you mean it seriously, it says nothing about goons,while it says a lot of about you...
So are you seriously attempting to defend hosting a RL picture of me alongside accusations of child sex crime?
If so then you really need help in real life. Try and get a sense of perspective before posting again.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
48
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Posted - 2012.04.06 04:28:00 -
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the Goonwiki is not open to the public? They can do what they like. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1901
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Posted - 2012.04.06 04:34:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the Goonwiki is not open to the public? They can do what they like.
There are at least two public mirrors.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
48
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Posted - 2012.04.06 05:41:00 -
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I doubt any mirrors are Goonswarm's responsibility. It's not particularly immoral to host a picture privately, even if it is distasteful. |
Kai Tel
State War Academy Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.04.06 09:49:00 -
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I am amused that you poor Goons have to rely on acusations of cybersex to try and undercut Jade's character rather than dealing with any argument he might make. We live in a time of free pornography on the net, sex texting in high school, and nude shots from the girl friend sent to your cell phone... Heck, you've not made it in Hollywood now until your stolen sex vid is trending and reported on the local news. Do you really think anyone gives a **** if he jerked off over naughty chat session with some pubbie at home?
Frankly, I am ot sure why you think its worth reporting on in every forum thread? Are you jealous of his ***** from web cam "sessions"or something? So you just go on and on like some scorned internet lover?
Pffft... you ******* loser. Even a fat old bastard like me can afford a good hooker. Get out of the house a little.
I guess it's too easy to attack the person to get what you want when you can't reasonably win the argument. And that's become too common with Goons. Attack anything you can pick on "for the real life person in forum" for metagaming pwnz rather than play an internet spaceships game for kicks. Honestly, it's sick behaviour... You've made a fun little game into something else because you forget there are limits. Just quit. |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.06 11:09:00 -
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look "Kai Tel" i'm completely in favour of the whole sexual liberation thing and i don't really care what people do to get off, but if you're found to roleplay a female space prostitute and then make bad posts all over evo i'm going to mock incessantly you for it |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.06 11:15:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: In fact,there is only accusations of you being terrible leader of csm(which is true because person with your personality traits should not be allowed to lead even ant farm)and link to your disgusting eve-cyber-sex roleplaying something....
I'm honestly not surprised you are posting under a ridiculous-named alt because your opinions are rather laughable. I mean lets face it, compared to actually finishing a CSM term as chair with universal good-press and getting the majority of one's campaign goals into the development cycle your latest fail leader falls rather short on the achievement fronts yes? As for cybersex blah blah blah yada yada yada. Four years of pressing that line in RL harrassment hasn't really made up for the fact there isn't a single tasty chat log of this alleged cyber madame scandal doing the rounds. La Maison was an IC nightclub run the founders of Jericho Fraction in 2003 that we mostly used or war declarations and live events. PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: Yes and jokes about how you look,thats terrible and it makes people who laugh at you straight stalkers,or atleast your imagination works like this.But to be honest,if you mean it seriously, it says nothing about goons,while it says a lot of about you... So are you seriously attempting to defend hosting a RL picture of me alongside accusations of child sex crime? If so then you really need help in real life. Try and get a sense of perspective before posting again.
I deplore all RL actions* and mock you for RPing a prostitute, it's not like getting harrassed grants you some kind of weirdness immunity
there's nothing wrong with goons happening to host a picture of you (which must have been public at some point :) ) and captioning it with petty insults about it on our private wiki; if someone has stolen that wiki and publically hosted it elsewhere then the bad is on them, not us
* to pick up on this, RL harrassment from eve is really messed up. If it makes you feel any better it's pretty widespread and frequently aimed at goons/allies (my favourite one was when someone called up kug's Malasian web security firm and made a complaint about him... to his wife) |
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.04.06 12:01:00 -
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VCBee 180 wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: In fact,there is only accusations of you being terrible leader of csm(which is true because person with your personality traits should not be allowed to lead even ant farm)and link to your disgusting eve-cyber-sex roleplaying something....
I'm honestly not surprised you are posting under a ridiculous-named alt because your opinions are rather laughable. I mean lets face it, compared to actually finishing a CSM term as chair with universal good-press and getting the majority of one's campaign goals into the development cycle your latest fail leader falls rather short on the achievement fronts yes? As for cybersex blah blah blah yada yada yada. Four years of pressing that line in RL harrassment hasn't really made up for the fact there isn't a single tasty chat log of this alleged cyber madame scandal doing the rounds. La Maison was an IC nightclub run the founders of Jericho Fraction in 2003 that we mostly used or war declarations and live events. PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: Yes and jokes about how you look,thats terrible and it makes people who laugh at you straight stalkers,or atleast your imagination works like this.But to be honest,if you mean it seriously, it says nothing about goons,while it says a lot of about you... So are you seriously attempting to defend hosting a RL picture of me alongside accusations of child sex crime? If so then you really need help in real life. Try and get a sense of perspective before posting again. I deplore all RL actions* and mock you for RPing a prostitute, it's not like getting harrassed grants you some kind of weirdness immunity there's nothing wrong with goons happening to host a picture of you (which must have been public at some point :) ) and captioning it with petty insults about it on our private wiki; if someone has stolen that wiki and publically hosted it elsewhere then the bad is on them, not us * to pick up on this, RL harrassment from eve is really messed up. If it makes you feel any better it's pretty widespread and frequently aimed at goons/allies (my favourite one was when someone called up kug's Malasian web security firm and made a complaint about him... to his wife)
And moreso,If Jade is so terrified by his RL harrasment(which we proved imaginary at best and outright lies at worst and most possible scenario)why he helps/endorse with RL harrasment of prominent members of CFC?
And Jade,your csm did nothing useful at all,even other members of it admits it,and its your fault and if you were atleast bit honest you will admit it...
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VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.04.06 12:10:00 -
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it's honestly pretty telling that the first thing jade did when faced with the wiki was to search his own name |
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.04.06 12:17:00 -
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VCBee 180 wrote:it's honestly pretty telling that the first thing jade did when faced with the wiki was to search his own name
Its not pretty,but its true... |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1903
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:38:00 -
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VCBee 180 wrote: I deplore all RL actions* and mock you for RPing a prostitute, it's not like getting harrassed grants you some kind of weirdness immunity* to pick up on this, RL harrassment from eve is really messed up. If it makes you feel any better it's pretty widespread and frequently aimed at goons/allies (my favourite one was when someone called up kug's Malasian web security firm and made a complaint about him... to his wife)
Your comment appears less than sincere coupled as it is with continuing lies and defamation. Which is ironic given the supportive bleating in your leaders defense we've all recently been subjected too.
Yes this behaviour is widespread in Eve Online and it was pretty much brought to this game by the SA "community" which is famous for hiding behind the American notion of Freedom to Offend(freedom from the consequences of offending) so typified by institutions like the infamous Westboro Baptist Church.
VCBee 180 wrote: there's nothing wrong with goons happening to host a picture of you (which must have been public at some point
Of course it was, it was from my online CV which was used by the goons to target RL harrassment to my current and previous employers in the form of accusations of internet prostitution. I guess thats okay with you also?
VCBee 180 wrote: ...and captioning it with petty insults about it on our private wiki; if someone has stolen that wiki and publically hosted it elsewhere then the bad is on them, not us
"Petty insults" are such things as "you have a stupid avatar" or "you write like a primary school child". Not lurid accusations of child sex offending. That you cannot tell the difference says an awful lot about the community you are part of and illustrates the great distance you have slipped from rationality and healthy social behaviour.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1903
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:53:00 -
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PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote: And moreso,If Jade is so terrified by his RL harrasment(which we proved imaginary at best and outright lies at worst and most possible scenario)why he helps/endorse with RL harrasment of prominent members of CFC?
The irony is I'd welcome the attempt at "RL harrassment" face to face at the next fanfest (for example) and I'd love a goon in the UK to host something like this. But of course the thing about internet cyber-bullies like Goonswarm is you guys really are immense cowards truth be told and the first time anybody even looked in your direction at a public event you'd be running beneath the skirts of the organizers and begging for protection from the consequences of their actions. (This from experience).
But its common goon practice to throw up a smokescreen of inky lies to defend their own so lets give you a chance to have your say. How pray tell am I helping/endorsing RL harrassment of "prominent members of" CFC? Conneticut Fried Chicken?
PleaseDONTblow Myship wrote:And Jade,your csm did nothing useful at all,even other members of it admits it,and its your fault and if you were atleast bit honest you will admit it..
Well its a common myth told by the Goon leadership to its pawns. But CSM1 was pretty successful for CCP. Extremely good press coverage, media relations. It worked well for me in the workplace too ironically - people were pretty impressed at my run as the first ever democratically elected chair of a multieplayer online game.
At least two members of CSM1 would go on to work for CCP. One went on to become a leading figure on the followup CSM2. We oversaw the successful implementation of PLEX into Eve online which has helped hundreds of thousands of players from poorer countries in the world to play the game despite the economic problems of their host countries.
It is a matter of public record the various gameplay improvements we advocated for Eve Online and I'm quite proud of the issues I advocated personally (such of which will probably surprise you when you tear your eyes from goonswarm propaganda and go look upon the facts as they happened).
And when my term was over I gave the final address at fanfest without bringing myself, the csm, or CCP and the wider player base into disrepute. I understand then as I do now that the role of CSM chair is to represent the game as an ambassador to the wider gaming media and show off the things that make Eve great (rather than wallowing in petty cyber bullying and mean spirited drunken nonsense.).
In many ways I think it is the degree to which the facts of CSM1's success are self-evident and undeniable that have made goon high command so rapidly addicted to smear attempts and making up nonsense about it ever since. It really stings that the CSM chaired by Jade Constantine, roleplayer and leader of a small alliance was a roaring success, while the CSM chaired by goonswarm's favourite son was a disappointing fiasco that ended in scandal and universal condemnation by anyone who is not a goon.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:56:00 -
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Jade, when you post... are you roleplaying? I can't see how anyone can hold such a strong internet grudge against goons and post so much about us while remaining otherwise fairly lucid. The only other explanation that occurs to me is that the harrassment and trolling aimed at you these past years has actually penetrated your usually thick skin and got you mad - how else could you make sweeping statements about a community of over a hundred and fifty thousand members without seeing the idiocy of it?
Just curious! |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:59:00 -
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You are roleplaying insects. I've heard you refer to yourselves in many many promotional goonswarm videos as bees and I've seen an attractive youtube presentation with little fabric animated bees dancing round a stargate that was highly rated by your general membership. At fanfest I met several goons who were even roleplaying bees in real life - they had little plush bee children with them and one chap was dressed up in a giant bee costume waving a goonswarm flag (with a giant bee on it). Even while I served on the CSM I often heard your illustrious leader (DARIUS) conversing with his second in command in a buzzing dialect and making rapid little tapping noises in channel pretending his fingers were mandibles. (Darius also looks a little like a Bee).
Further to in-game ideology - you are part of a swarm. You all serve the brain-goons. You present yourselves on this (largely) in character forum as idiot-level intelligence creatures without the ability to speak, argue or debate coherently and I acknowledge that must take quite a lot of dedication to the roleplay ethos of your organization. Look at the pure number of goonswarm threads with absolutely zero content produced in the last 24 hours! It takes champion roleplayers to so perfectly embody the mindset of tiny hive creatures toiling without conscious thought in banal labour of submission to the swarm.
So I salute your characterisation as vile bugs and horrible swarm things! Many in Eve asked for alien subspecies and you have finally provided the dramatic background for this.
Anyway. Lets not further derail this IC thread. If you want to discuss your roleplay with me further I'd suggest the general forum or maybe SHC. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1903
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Posted - 2012.04.06 14:10:00 -
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VCBee 180 wrote:Jade, when you post... are you roleplaying? I can't see how anyone can hold such a strong internet grudge against goons and post so much about us while remaining otherwise fairly lucid. The only other explanation that occurs to me is that the harrassment and trolling aimed at you these past years has actually penetrated your usually thick skin and got you mad - how else could you make sweeping statements about a community of over a hundred and fifty thousand members without seeing the idiocy of it?
Just curious!
How about you address the substance of the post rather than flipping over on your back and claiming injury the first moment you feel threatened.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.06 14:21:00 -
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i'm not threatened in the slightest you big baby, i just don't care to reply to another jade constantine "goons are bad" post and would like to examine the reasons underneath your unhealthy obsession :) |
VCBee 180
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.06 14:23:00 -
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Lanasak wrote:You are roleplaying insects. I've heard you refer to yourselves in many many promotional goonswarm videos as bees and I've seen an attractive youtube presentation with little fabric animated bees dancing round a stargate that was highly rated by your general membership. At fanfest I met several goons who were even roleplaying bees in real life - they had little plush bee children with them and one chap was dressed up in a giant bee costume waving a goonswarm flag (with a giant bee on it). Even while I served on the CSM I often heard your illustrious leader (DARIUS) conversing with his second in command in a buzzing dialect and making rapid little tapping noises in channel pretending his fingers were mandibles. (Darius also looks a little like a Bee).
Further to in-game ideology - you are part of a swarm. You all serve the brain-goons. You present yourselves on this (largely) in character forum as idiot-level intelligence creatures without the ability to speak, argue or debate coherently and I acknowledge that must take quite a lot of dedication to the roleplay ethos of your organization. Look at the pure number of goonswarm threads with absolutely zero content produced in the last 24 hours! It takes champion roleplayers to so perfectly embody the mindset of tiny hive creatures toiling without conscious thought in banal labour of submission to the swarm.
So I salute your characterisation as vile bugs and horrible swarm things! Many in Eve asked for alien subspecies and you have finally provided the dramatic background for this.
Anyway. Lets not further derail this IC thread. If you want to discuss your roleplay with me further I'd suggest the general forum or maybe SHC.
blah blah blah anti-goon rant wrapped up in some half-baked analysis. i skimmed this post and there's no way i'm going to read it through for a detailed reply
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1904
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Posted - 2012.04.06 14:23:00 -
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VCBee 180 wrote:i'm not threatened in the slightest you big baby, i just don't care to reply to another jade constantine "goons are bad" post and would like to examine the reasons underneath your unhealthy obsession :)
So go cry in the corner about how the world doesn't understand you some more. Come back when you are ready to have a serious discussion.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
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