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Korovyov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jackspanoni CCP doesn't care and are hostile to paying customers!!
Just noticed, huh? --=--=-- train exhumers to 5 --=--=--
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2008.11.15 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Korovyov Way to go CCP. You've buffed industry by making it the only part of the game that works at all now! You WIN! And by win, I mean suck horse manure.
Dude, I just found my new siig. Thanks Korovyov
Originally by: Korovyov Way to go CCP. You've buffed industry by making it the only part of the game that works at all now! You WIN! And by win, I mean suck horse manure.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.15 20:26:00 -
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This patch is awesome. I love all the whiney raven mission runners who are now actually set on par with turret users. |
Psilocin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.15 22:58:00 -
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This is almost as good as the pubbie tears you get when you steamroll an alliance.
OH NOES MY STUPIDLY EASY ISK MAKING MACHINE IS NO LONGER STUPIDLY EASY! |
Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.15 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Psilocin This is almost as good as the pubbie tears you get when you steamroll an alliance.
OH NOES MY STUPIDLY EASY ISK MAKING MACHINE IS NO LONGER STUPIDLY EASY!
Its still stupidly easy , just takes more time = more boredom. |
Chi Quan
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.11.16 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx This patch is awesome. I love all the whiney raven mission runners who are now actually set on par with turret users.
"i suck, and now you should suck too" is unbelievably childish thinking |
Nathan Derringer
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Posted - 2008.11.16 10:48:00 -
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I don't see what the problem is. I use a raven, cruise missiles and t2 drones. After the patch i ran a mission with my old setup and it took a bit longer to run. I've since fitted a target painter and its back to about the same time.
Dont fire cruise missiles at frigates, use drones and fit a target painter. Simple.
I say again just in case you missed it DONT FIRE CRUISE MISSILES AT FRIGATES. |
van Uber
SAE Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.16 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Derringer I don't see what the problem is. I use a raven, cruise missiles and t2 drones. After the patch i ran a mission with my old setup and it took a bit longer to run. I've since fitted a target painter and its back to about the same time.
Dont fire cruise missiles at frigates, use drones and fit a target painter. Simple.
I say again just in case you missed it DONT FIRE CRUISE MISSILES AT FRIGATES.
A Target Painter? UNPOSSIBLE! |
Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rilwar on 17/11/2008 00:16:14
Originally by: DMF KingBob next fail detected..
the lvl 4 mission "Alluring Emanations"
(at my agent) mission reward under 1 million isk... lp reward under 1000 lp
it apears around 40 small drones WITHOUT loot and bounty and after an half hour auf salvaging i have rig-parts in worth of around 1 million in my cargo
this mission is an complete fail and a insult for everyone that does this crap-mission...
(semi-good response) i must say the awards for corp members are still an nice thing but to expensive for much fighters of an battle that should become a award for and good job
Except you epic fail even because if you were paying any attention you would have realized the instant you popped the single frig that was there to spawn the other 40, the mission was complete, negating needing to destroy any more than 1 little frig.
/me calls the whaaaambulance
hey, here's a strategy! use cruises vs >Frig, and just let the drones on auto-attack take care of all the frigs!
What? You can't deal with the aggro? go train some more skills. or get an alt in a logi ship!
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DMF KingBob
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Posted - 2008.11.17 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: DMF KingBob on 17/11/2008 08:43:17
Originally by: Rilwar Edited by: Rilwar on 17/11/2008 00:16:14
Originally by: DMF KingBob next fail detected..
the lvl 4 mission "Alluring Emanations"
(at my agent) mission reward under 1 million isk... lp reward under 1000 lp
it apears around 40 small drones WITHOUT loot and bounty and after an half hour auf salvaging i have rig-parts in worth of around 1 million in my cargo
this mission is an complete fail and a insult for everyone that does this crap-mission...
(semi-good response) i must say the awards for corp members are still an nice thing but to expensive for much fighters of an battle that should become a award for and good job
Except you epic fail even because if you were paying any attention you would have realized the instant you popped the single frig that was there to spawn the other 40, the mission was complete, negating needing to destroy any more than 1 little frig.
/me calls the whaaaambulance
hey, here's a strategy! use cruises vs >Frig, and just let the drones on auto-attack take care of all the frigs!
What? You can't deal with the aggro? go train some more skills. or get an alt in a logi ship!
Imagine that.
hm u must be a noob right? we are talking about STAGE-AGGRO in missions like enemies abound or auto-onehittrigger-attacking drones... but im sure un can tank this with your big mouth... and if u has a brain u can maybe tell me what this has to do with this new scrap-mission ?
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Adamai
Gallente Naval Protection Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.18 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg oh noes you cant jsut sit there and spew missiles at everything anymore. Now like a turret user you will have to deal with letting your drones kill frigs.
i have to agree with the poster they screwed this patch up im a level 5 turret user and they are **** too now as well as drones have minimal effect missions take for ever.
im a close ranged pilot nd i say hes right its just crap and probably the worst thing they have added or changed to eve.
and lets not forget the outragious lag. its almost 20 times worse.
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Kia Corallis
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Posted - 2008.11.18 13:31:00 -
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I use a Rokh and a Raven, guess what, I don't like my raven being unable to hit smaller targets with cruise, aren't they designed to have cruise launchers fitted? May as well have a tank with a catapult in the turret. Is it me or have drones lost their effectiveness? so all us raven pilots have lost on missiles and drones, call me stupid but it does seem a little anti caldari. I like my missiles but I also like my hybrids, even if they only do kinetic/thermal damage. So looks like everyone will be moving to projectile and laser weapons? Don't think so, I'm Caldari and we use missiles, if it takes longer then so be it, I will now slowboat a lot slower as my speed was killed along with everything else, cest la vie. |
Adamai
Gallente Naval Protection Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.18 14:36:00 -
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they hit the hybrids hard with the nerf bat too your not alone and the gal drone bonus doesnt count for much any more.
solo missions just take way way way too long.
bad ccp bad!
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Chi Quan
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.11.25 19:44:00 -
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yea, please review the number of undersized ships in missions. up the hp of the big rats if you have to, but remove the smaller ones. it is really frustrating to see your weapons do almost zero damage. ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
Stalina
Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.25 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Stalina on 25/11/2008 20:51:53 You guys do know, if the missiles do more damage in PvE, they also do more damage in PvP? Maybe you should go out with a ceptor, try to tackle a drake or cerberus without dying or leaving ( not only for 10 seconds ).
And you want even more damage???
Maybe CCP should finally make caldari a PvE-only Race.
Btw. you might look at this thread and think again why your missions take a little longer now.
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Originally by: Malcanis
Hey I've got an idea: why don't you and your nerf-crying ilk never, ever post again.
See what you've done. Look what you did.
Now shush.
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Chi Quan
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.11.26 18:46:00 -
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you do know that ccp can modify the npcs to have no effect whatsoever to pvp? in fact the current situation is solely caused by pvpers, as no npc ever used nano.
what does the linked thread have to do with the current one? they are a bunch of whiners wanting easy kills. or have some sort of wrong envy. face it, pirates have overgrazed lowsec, that's why it's so empty now. the ppl that used to be laughed at and told to adapt acctualy did \o/. the horror. the soil is exhausted, the pirates have taken more than it was possible to regenerate.
there are quite a bunch of lvl 4 agents in lowsec and 0.0; all lvl5 agents are there. if they move all lvl4 agents there, ppl will downgrade to lvl3. and ccp will loose a great number of subscribers in the process. also the 0.0 lvl4s are bound to certain "local residents".
in case you pull the "eve is a harsh place"-card, i suggest you look up the terms "atmosphere" and "rules". you will see they have nothing in common. this card, as it is usually employed, applies to the ppl that want the agents moved as well. eve is a harsh place: you have to face some hard npcs if you want to get to the missioner (namely concord). ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
Opertone
Caldari SIEGE.
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Posted - 2008.11.26 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Quan you do know that ccp can modify the npcs to have no effect whatsoever to pvp? in fact the current situation is solely caused by pvpers, as no npc ever used nano.
what does the linked thread have to do with the current one? they are a bunch of whiners wanting easy kills. or have some sort of wrong envy. face it, pirates have overgrazed lowsec, that's why it's so empty now. the ppl that used to be laughed at and told to adapt acctualy did \o/. the horror. the soil is exhausted, the pirates have taken more than it was possible to regenerate.
there are quite a bunch of lvl 4 agents in lowsec and 0.0; all lvl5 agents are there. if they move all lvl4 agents there, ppl will downgrade to lvl3. and ccp will loose a great number of subscribers in the process. also the 0.0 lvl4s are bound to certain "local residents".
in case you pull the "eve is a harsh place"-card, i suggest you look up the terms "atmosphere" and "rules". you will see they have nothing in common. this card, as it is usually employed, applies to the ppl that want the agents moved as well. eve is a harsh place: you have to face some hard npcs if you want to get to the missioner (namely concord).
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Stalina
Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.26 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Stalina on 26/11/2008 22:20:27
Originally by: Chi Quan stuff
The thread is called Risk vs. Reward in empire. Your mission take longer, you get less money in the same time so reward is lowered at the same risk.
Originally by: Chi Quan you do know that ccp can modify the npcs to have no effect whatsoever to pvp? in fact the current situation is solely caused by pvpers, as no npc ever used nano.
Did not quite get your point about NPC's here, but what I was trying to say that if missiles do more damage, ships like interceptors or interdictors are unable to fulfill their role of tackling against any missileship ( maybe not torp raven ). As it is now, missiles hurt intercepters much and ,unlike other races BC / Cruisers, the caldari ones have been kinda buffed against those targets.
Meh, why am I arguing with alts anyway.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.11.26 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Quan you do know that ccp can modify the npcs to have no effect whatsoever to pvp? in fact the current situation is solely caused by pvpers, as no npc ever used nano.
what does the linked thread have to do with the current one? they are a bunch of whiners wanting easy kills. or have some sort of wrong envy. face it, pirates have overgrazed lowsec, that's why it's so empty now. the ppl that used to be laughed at and told to adapt acctualy did \o/. the horror. the soil is exhausted, the pirates have taken more than it was possible to regenerate.
there are quite a bunch of lvl 4 agents in lowsec and 0.0; all lvl5 agents are there. if they move all lvl4 agents there, ppl will downgrade to lvl3. and ccp will loose a great number of subscribers in the process. also the 0.0 lvl4s are bound to certain "local residents".
in case you pull the "eve is a harsh place"-card, i suggest you look up the terms "atmosphere" and "rules". you will see they have nothing in common. this card, as it is usually employed, applies to the ppl that want the agents moved as well. eve is a harsh place: you have to face some hard npcs if you want to get to the missioner (namely concord).
"No NPC'ers use nano"
Yeah, you've never heard of 0.0 cosmos plex runners.
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Laice
Caldari Judicial Blade Novus Aevum
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Posted - 2008.11.27 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vengal Seyhan
Originally by: KingBobs Dawn 10:31:44 Combat Devastator Cruise Missile hits Angel Webifier for 12 damage. cool what for a gread expansion.....
Maybe this spells the end of the Raven being the nber mission king?
Use light drones. Deal with full-stage agro like the rest of us :D
Besides, I usually find that you can pop those frigates quite easily while they're MWDing towards you and their sig radius is huge. Perhaps learn to prioritise targets that way instead of leaving the frigates 'til last and they're in close orbit around you?
*loads his precision cruise*
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Nebulous
Minmatar Thukker Insurgents
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Posted - 2008.11.27 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: DMF KingBob Edited by: DMF KingBob on 12/11/2008 14:06:26 since i logged in this morning i have seen not one positiv effect of this expansion... but negativs are always there
here are the list of things that makes my morning sweet an ****ing me of
1. my raven flys with an overdrive injector only 130m/s instead 160m/s very good for an worlds collide lvl4......
2.09:11:58 Combat Paradise Cruise Missile hits Blood Spy (blood wrath frigate)for 14 damage.
i need over 15 salves of my 7 cruise missile launcher to get an cheep frigate down.... before the suck expansion i needed always not more then 5 salves
more **** offs comings soon..
Use light drones to deal with the frigates.
[ 2008.11.26 19:32:05 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile hits Centus Savage Lord, doing 1377.8 damage.
as you can see from the above damage notification my cruise missiles work just fine, try putting some sp into missiles and ditch that caldari navy raven (guessing it's a CNR due to you saying it has 7xlaunchers) for a golem.
Best patch/expansion ever by the way, some much needed balance bought to the game at last.
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Commander Hansen
Hearts of Obsidian Chances of Misfortune
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Posted - 2008.11.27 10:43:00 -
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Oh no, you can't run 3 missions during tea break? face reality and come back from the raven pedestial, and run missions like a man. And using anything larger than a small gun/launcher on frigs is plain stupid. I piloted ravens 2.5 years back and I seem to remember they had drone bays. Why oh why arent you using the ships full potential? Instead of complaining and acting stupid, why don't you do anything about it? Here you will only get people laughing at you, with their full right.
And to be in line with thes threads: Your stuff belongs to me now, you clearly didnt want them anyway
best regards Commander Hansen
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Arcazz
Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.27 11:26:00 -
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Got to love when people compare the game to RL. Remember its a internet spaceship game, travelling between solar systems etc It is already beyond reality if you can't live with that go play Flight Simulator or some other crap like that... Next thing you know you want CCP to add gravity to the celestial objects and factor that in to pojectile/missle trajectories... /The Mighty
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Ka'loor
Amarr Academy of Decadence
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Posted - 2008.11.27 20:23:00 -
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You know what i hate the most about these complaints?
Its all been known ages ago.
Hello the speed rebalance (yes we know its a nerf but whatever) is old news. Anyone who complains about it when they read the patchnotes doesnt play eve, or is just way too....well you can guess what.
Drones and missile nerf.
Well i like the drone patch, cause light drones were perfectly useless in pve and mediums trumped them everywhere, except when oyu wanted to catch that inty in pvp or other fast ship, but then youd use warriors before any others.
Missiles? well they deliver constant damage on big ships. Turrets dont. Or do they?
I have a Paladin set up currently, and with 2 faction tracking comps and ogdins implant. Cruisers are easy pickings on approach but not necessarily on orbit. Then it starts to depend ond orbit range and size of ship.
Now a cruise missile doesnt care if the enemy ship is on approach or not. A tachyon really has to check transversal when shooting smaller stuff. Normally i have to wait till it stops flying those stupid circles and starts approaching to blast it for good.
In the end? Maybe it balances out. If i want to semiAFK i certainly choose a cruise CNR over a paladin. if im sitting at the comp and want to steamroll i pick my pally.
But then again a Raven is good against everything. Put Invuls on it. And you only need to switch missile types for missions thats it.
I have to switch ammo during missions and check transversal, kill stuff on approach before orbit. Its still low risk but more work.
Attack without mercy, until blood is gone, until life is gone, until the light is gone, unto the shadow itself.
Better to die with honor, than to live in shame. |
Rockbox
Monkey Smashes Heaven Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.27 20:27:00 -
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Posting in a "my raven sucks therefore the game is broken" thread. signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.28 10:04:00 -
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lol shooting frigs with cruise missiles, I did that like once when I first flew a raven with cruise missiles over a year ago just to see how much damage I did to it. since then I used my techie two drones. thank god for the focus fire and light drones seem to give frigates a priority over other ships and take care of them all real quick.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.28 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Hansen Oh no, you can't run 3 missions during tea break? face reality and come back from the raven pedestial, and run missions like a man. And using anything larger than a small gun/launcher on frigs is plain stupid. I piloted ravens 2.5 years back and I seem to remember they had drone bays. Why oh why arent you using the ships full potential? Instead of complaining and acting stupid, why don't you do anything about it? Here you will only get people laughing at you, with their full right.
And to be in line with thes threads: Your stuff belongs to me now, you clearly didnt want them anyway
best regards Commander Hansen
tachyon II with a 99% web worked quite well for frigates, sadly I don't think I have a 99% web anymore
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Hayaishi
Gallente Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2008.11.28 15:05:00 -
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if you dont like the changes... leave... go on... shoo...
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.11.28 18:18:00 -
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Congratulations CCP on nerfing everything in the game except mining/building.
Well, they said they were boosting industry, nerfing everything else kind of counts as a boost I guess...
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Hayaishi
Gallente Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2008.11.29 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Congratulations CCP on nerfing everything in the game except mining/building.
Well, they said they were boosting industry, nerfing everything else kind of counts as a boost I guess...
they didnt nerf everything. everything ELSE is at level ground with others. so, stop *****ing, play the game and figure out how to play.
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