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LoneRider
Minmatar Com-Star
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Posted - 2008.11.12 10:46:00 -
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Hi everybody,
I just tried to start my Ingame-Browser Application, but it doesn't seem to work anymore after the Quantum Rise Patch - What has changed? Form-Fields (Text, Password and Submit) do not show anymore, they are just gone... OK, my application is more than 2 years old, but I see no reason why it does not work anymore after the Quantum Rise Patch. I used the old descriptions for IGB and HTML / CSS capabilities and how to access Variables etc, but a lot of that seems to have changed through the years. Therefore i guess i'll have to do a complete redesign... too bad...
Can anybody tell me why my Form Fields have suddenly disappeared?
<form action="http://www.eveorder.de/dowork.php" method="post"> <input type="hidden" name="SID" value="e16710ac10b31d417cd6b5c01df43e01"> <input type="hidden" name="action" value="login"> Username <input type="text" name="username" size="8" value="LoneRider"> Passwort <input type="password" name="password" size="5" value=""> <input type="submit" value="login"> </form>
Maybe i'm just blind or s.th. but I don't see a reason why this does not work anymore. Removing the CSS Stuff and just have plain HTML on the rest of the site does improve anything.
For a complete redesign: Is there a relatively NEW Guide to IGB Programming? The old ones I once used seem to be completely outdated...
Oh and... the IGB Performance seems to be worse again...
Thanks for any useful help
LoneRider
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Immersive
Immersive Technology Solutions
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:30:00 -
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not sure about everyone else, but I reference all my IGB stuff from:
EvE-Dev IGB Documentation --- New to the API? GrabRaw XML
It's coming...
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LoneRider
Minmatar Com-Star
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:38:00 -
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Ah thanks, looks a lot better than the very old standard documentation. I think I'll have to redevelope the complete stuff... well, I wanted to do that in a few weeks, now i got a reason for doing it now... :)
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evilPHish
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Posted - 2008.11.12 14:28:00 -
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What is there to read? It is still Empyrean Age documentation...
I am having the same problem here, pages not showing form elements AND opening some pages totally freaks out my eve client, which then drops down to about 3 fps for 5 minutes.
This issue was *not* there before Quantum Rise. Would be nice to know if it's a bug or if they changed anything regarding the IGB behaviour. --
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 12/11/2008 15:21:41 All my stuff still works as intended.
I suggest you go for the "complete redesign" part of your statement. (no pun intended) (Note that I don't see either in the code you posted what is wrong. Might come from anything around it). ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
LoneRider
Minmatar Com-Star
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:14:00 -
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Yes it seems so... i tried to delete everything around which might cause trouble, but it still doesn't work. The complete Code can be found at www.eveorder.de - but anyway i will have to do a redesign...
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evilPHish
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Posted - 2008.11.12 23:46:00 -
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It's got nothing to do with that and a "redesign" doesn't help. I did a new "test form" containing almost nothing and it still didn't work. Some images the browser won't show as well and I am still stuck with horrible FPS loss on certain websites. --
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: evilPHish It's got nothing to do with that and a "redesign" doesn't help. I did a new "test form" containing almost nothing and it still didn't work. Some images the browser won't show as well and I am still stuck with horrible FPS loss on certain websites.
It's the "almost nothing" that could be the problem.
Like I said, all my stuff is working exactly like before without any issues.
Hoping you'll find the glitch... or CCP fix it if there is something to fix. ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Kravek
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.11.13 10:51:00 -
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In my IGB apps "only" forms in tables stop showing. And all pages working slooooower.
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Rye
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.13 11:23:00 -
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I have to agree, the IGB has slowed down a lot since the patch.
To be honest, I find it surprising that CCP isn't putting a little more effort into getting the IGB to run FASTER since it's obvious that more and more corps and alliances are trying to make tools accessible from in-game via the IGB.
In particular, rendering of tables has always been slow, and, if anything, even slower now. So many of us use tables to keep things neat, and honestly I can't understand why a little more time and effort hasn't been put into sorting out the IGB rendering speed (in general, not only tables). I'm certain that the number and quality of IGB-based tools would improve dramatically if CCP could just give it a bit of love.
Even pages without tables - literally just a few lines of text - are extremely slow right now... come on CCP, bump this up your list of priorities! I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I'd be extremely grateful... and once the speed of the IGB rendering is sorted out, you can expect a revival in IGB-based tools being developed and made available to others. Recruitment Thread EKT Website |
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Xhanserbal
Minmatar Universal Exports
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:02:00 -
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The ingame browse appears to have also suffered from the nano patch.
No form elements are workign on any of my ingame sites since the patch, and the rending time of tables has gone back to the speed when the IGB was first implemented.
Hopefully CCP wil give us the head up on what has happened.
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Darul Naki
Octet Sunrise
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Posted - 2008.11.14 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kravek In my IGB apps "only" forms in tables stop showing. And all pages working slooooower.
Hum... same issue there, tables rendering is very slow and form fields located into table cells aren't displayed anymore.
As patch release note didn't contain any IGB related stuff, we should create a bug report.
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Kravek
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.11.14 14:37:00 -
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Probably they broken it accidentally... And we will wait 10 years for fix.
IGB not need fixing... it need overhaul.
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Rye
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.14 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Darul Naki
Originally by: Kravek In my IGB apps "only" forms in tables stop showing. And all pages working slooooower.
Hum... same issue there, tables rendering is very slow and form fields located into table cells aren't displayed anymore.
As patch release note didn't contain any IGB related stuff, we should create a bug report.
I've now submitted this as a bug-report. Hopefully something gets done about it soon. Recruitment Thread EKT Website |
BlueStar88
Gallente BlueStar Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.14 14:48:00 -
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Same here. IGB not usable anymore! Even an image takes ages to load (no HTML rendering).
Try it: http://bluestar-alliance.cc/Images/BLUEA.jpg
It probably has to do with the query/response/headers mechanism, or the graphical renderer itself.
Fix it, the IGB is important for us!
Greets
BlueStar88 on Classic Client
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.14 15:46:00 -
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Strange... I confirm the Rendering speed got totally nerf. But all my stuff (forms) are showing as intended, in or out of table cells. (Also for people visiting them).
Anyway... The speed (or lack of) itself is already bugreport worthy.
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Kravek
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.11.14 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: DeTox MinRohim Strange... I confirm the Rendering speed got totally nerf. But all my stuff (forms) are showing as intended, in or out of table cells. (Also for people visiting them).
Anyway... The speed (or lack of) itself is already bugreport worthy.
Can you give a link to any yours igb app that have forms inside table cells? |
Chruker
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Posted - 2008.11.14 22:05:00 -
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I thought it wasnt possible by the IGB seems even slower now. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering |
Darul Naki
Octet Sunrise
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Posted - 2008.11.14 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kravek
Originally by: DeTox MinRohim Strange... I confirm the Rendering speed got totally nerf. But all my stuff (forms) are showing as intended, in or out of table cells. (Also for people visiting them).
Anyway... The speed (or lack of) itself is already bugreport worthy.
Can you give a link to any yours igb app that have forms inside table cells?
Sure, this one for instance: http://osunrise.nuxit.net/board/eve_npqry.php?lang=english
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Mogandi
Gallente Eudaimonia Inc Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:13:00 -
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Yeah i have to say the ingame browser is a important part of the game, especially for more experienced players, as they use tools they have scripted by themselves or using other scipts. Even simple guides are not working anymore. I have made one where a picture is included into a html, verry verry basic html, but its not showing.
Have to be a bug or somekind of accident. Dont nerf the ingame browser!
Mog
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Kravek
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.11.15 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kravek on 15/11/2008 09:45:02
Originally by: Darul Naki
Sure, this one for instance: http://osunrise.nuxit.net/board/eve_npqry.php?lang=english
And is working for you? It is broken for me. DeTox MinRohim told that he have forms in the tables and is working. And i want see that.
Originally by: Chruker I thought it wasnt possible by the IGB seems even slower now.
CCP changed definition of word "Impossible" on Quantum level ]:-> |
Eethrak
Gallente LiveTech
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Posted - 2008.11.15 14:24:00 -
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Massive chunks of my corp's site are not working since QR. Drop-down lists seem to still, even inside table cells, but I've lost all my Text inputs, Textareas and buttons. Additionally many of our images won't display.
I'll also second that the posted "working" url isn't.
Maybe rewriting the site a different way would fix it, but that's hardly the point. The point is that there was nothing in the patch notes that suggested this might even be an issue. We've put the effort into building these tools once, we shouldn't have to do it again. There's no guarantee that next patch we won't find that the workaround we come up with to fix the issue this time gets broken again. The point is that the IGB is a critical part of many corporation's activities, and this is not the first time that is has been broken by a stealth/accidental change. |
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 15/11/2008 22:24:38 Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 15/11/2008 22:22:57
Originally by: Kravek
DeTox MinRohim told that he have forms in the tables and is working. And i want see that.
I smell some suspicion
Most of my stuff are not for public but I've spit out a quick one for you: http://eve.onewayweb.com/testigb.php
Everybody seems to see it fine, at least in corp and alliance.
The link gave by Darul is bugged for me too though.
Most of my API pages are simple, nothing to do with big fat website with tons of table. Note also that the form anchor is outside the table. ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Kravek
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.11.16 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: DeTox MinRohim Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 15/11/2008 22:27:02
Originally by: Kravek
DeTox MinRohim told that he have forms in the tables and is working. And i want see that.
I smell some suspicion
Most of my stuff are not for public but I've spit out a quick one for you: http://eve.onewayweb.com/testigb.php
This feeling is caused by my poor english
I trying find any pattern. In some tables everything working perfect in other no...
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BlueStar88
Gallente BlueStar Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.16 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kravek Edited by: Kravek on 16/11/2008 08:55:10 [...] EDIT: Yup. If you anchor form out of the table all working perfectly. [...]
Nah, "perfectly" is not the right word here. As I've said above, the rendering issue hits even plain image loads, without any HTML and TABLE rendering needs.
Additionally the starting page does not come up automatically anymore, after opening the browser. There is to hit the startpage button now to load it.
Greets
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Kravek
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.11.16 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kravek on 16/11/2008 11:03:13 Agreed. Word "perfectly" and "IGB" can`t be in one sentence.
But forms working that way. |
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.11.16 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 16/11/2008 15:10:47
Originally by: BlueStar88 Do you see the Star (IGB) in the banner? I've already deleted all the cache files, but no success, the picture just don't load... Additionally the starting page does not come up automatically anymore, after opening the browser. There is to hit the startpage button now to load it.
Greets
BlueStar88
There is a very good reason why that image doesn't show. Dig it, I'm sure you'll find it. Let's just say that for once, the IGB is right... not you.
Hint: There is no closing tags for images. ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
BlueStar88
Gallente BlueStar Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.16 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: BlueStar88 on 16/11/2008 17:17:06 Edited by: BlueStar88 on 16/11/2008 17:15:55 Edited by: BlueStar88 on 16/11/2008 17:11:46
Originally by: DeTox MinRohim Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 16/11/2008 15:10:47
There is a very good reason why that image doesn't show. Dig it, I'm sure you'll find it. Let's just say that for once, the IGB is right... not you.
Hint: There is no closing tags for images.
Closing-Tag removed, same issue. Try another one: IGB is wrong ^^
EDIT: Slash-Closing doesn't work.. EDIT: Omitting the Style-tag doesn't work..
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Darul Naki
Octet Sunrise
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Posted - 2008.11.16 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kravek EDIT2: Remove <form> tags from the <td></td> and put it in <tr></tr>. In simple words make entire table row a form not only one cell. Then IGB render correctly.
You're right, it fixes my cells form issue. Thanks! |
Darul Naki
Octet Sunrise
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Posted - 2008.11.16 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: BlueStar88 Closing-Tag removed, same issue. Try another one: IGB is wrong ^^
EDIT: Slash-Closing doesn't work.. EDIT: Omitting the Style-tag doesn't work.. EDIT: Darn, several simple KOS-checkers are not usable in-time anymore. EDIT: Charakter pictures are white boxes btw.
Actually, there's something strange regarding inner table pictures. I use both stylesheets "background-image" directives and <img> tags, they work smooth outside tables but not inside. Interesting...
It doesn't seem to be related neither to image format (jpg/gif), nor image source reference (absolute/relative source URL); I'll dig a little bit into this one and will let you know.
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