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ShadowandLight
Amarr Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:19:00 -
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EM resist was in the 85 range with a faction extender onboard
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Alt altski
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:19:00 -
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nub done the same plex in a tier 1 bs (dominix) ...
The cit torp at the end of that plex does a different damage type ....
Just have a buffer hp tank and rely on that to be remote repped.
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Midnighter
The Causality Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Midnighter on 13/11/2008 15:30:37 We used to walk the Sansha plex using a super tanked and remote repped Munnin as the bait.
The kinetic torp would take it down to 5% armour from full shield, but the 2 minute launch time meant we were ready for each shot. ***
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 13/11/2008 15:29:49
Originally by: ShadowandLight EM resist was in the 85 range with a faction extender onboard
So you had over 600 sig radius (if you had shield rigs you could get even more - around 650'ish)
From 180 000 damage torp you would recieve around 65% of damage (usually more) = 117000 damage.
117 000 times 0,15 (after 85% resist) = 17,550 damage. Yes - you just got hit for 17,5k damage - and thats for easy calcs. Im pretty sure it is a bit higher due to sig radius vs explo radius formula but CBA to check exact.
Thus = you had WRONG tank for this plex. Next time aim at 95% EM resist and you might survive it.
EDIT: above is on EM torps. I dunno if sansha fires kinetic ones - never did sansha 10/10
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white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: white kight on 13/11/2008 15:46:06 We did a Serpentis 10/10 with my cerb racially tanking, 1 x ishtar with 5 heavy armour bots and a couple of light repair bots from the drakes and ravens i was in there with. Sig radius is your friend my friend
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.11.13 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
I did a 10/10 gurista's plex once, we had a Gallente command ship with 90+ resists. It died in 30 seconds. TWICE.
Get over it.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Trevor Warps on 13/11/2008 16:14:34
10/10 plex ...
Massive multiplayer online game ...
Got the hint ?
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps Edited by: Trevor Warps on 13/11/2008 16:14:34
10/10 plex ...
Massive multiplayer online game ...
Got the hint ?
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
get more facts before u post, get my hint? [/url] |
ShadowandLight
Amarr Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard
Originally by: ShadowandLight guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
I did a 10/10 gurista's plex once, we had a Gallente command ship with 90+ resists. It died in 30 seconds. TWICE.
Get over it.
with 2 logistics? [/url] |
Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:24:00 -
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logistics are about activly tanking the damage once your all in etc.
until the help arrives you need to be able to handle the alpha + any enviromental effects, like cit torps, AOE dmg and neuts.
that means uber res and decent hp, as said over and over.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
10/10 plex ...
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
1 + 2 + 2 = 5
If you cant even get a pilot count right, dont expect to do a 10/10 in easy mode.
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Haleuth
Amarr Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:31:00 -
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So there were 6 of you doing this plex and nobody thought to do any intel on what you were about to face?
It seems that you ain't really playing this game to win bro.
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:31:00 -
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what Deva Blackfire told you, shield tanked bs is wrong for this... I doubt your golem had 20k shield hp so it would die from the first hit. and yes sanshas has em torp, same as guristas. The difference is that guristas allso shoots a rail gun or something and sanshas neuts. but yeah big buffer armor tank or a minmitar t2 cruiser will do the tanking beter then a shieldtanked golem :P --------
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
Originally by: Trevor Warps Edited by: Trevor Warps on 13/11/2008 16:14:34
10/10 plex ...
Massive multiplayer online game ...
Got the hint ?
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
get more facts before u post, get my hint?
And you still dont understand written word. You could use 100 logistic and you WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAYS. Why? Because YOUR TANK WAS BAD. You cannot tank alpha from torp on BATTLESHIP using 85% resist. Even plated HAC has problems tanking that torp with 85% EM resist and it has 4x smaller sig than you had.
Next time either bump EM resists to 92-95% or bring other ship. Yes - you got almost complete walkthru of this problem and you still ignore it.
Also another hint: most 10/10 are doable with 3 ships - but they need to be fit properly (+ expensive mods if you want to use damage dealer as tank too).
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Haleuth
Amarr Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
1 + 2 + 2 = 5
If you cant even get a pilot count right, dont expect to do a 10/10 in easy mode.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Haleuth
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight
we had 6 pilots, 1 tank, 2 logistics, 2 DPS ( 3 if u count the tank )
1 + 2 + 2 = 5
If you cant even get a pilot count right, dont expect to do a 10/10 in easy mode.
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last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx [/url] |
Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
Cool, so you planned ahead to bring something to salvage you ****ty ship's wreck.
Look, there is not much point to you being here. You started off as a hatewhine post, and then you just kept on in this trend, mostly disregarding helpfull post and responding to flames.
So ... just buy another ****ty ship, go back in there, get owned, petition and repeat until you quit.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Yes - you got almost complete walkthru of this problem and you still ignore it.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
Cool, so you planned ahead to bring something to salvage you ****ty ship's wreck.
Look, there is not much point to you being here. You started off as a hatewhine post, and then you just kept on in this trend, mostly disregarding helpfull post and responding to flames.
So ... just buy another ****ty ship, go back in there, get owned, petition and repeat until you quit.
my number 1 complaint is that , if that torp DPS is correct, that you cant TANK the hardest plex in the game with one of the most EXPENSIVE ships in the game
that doesnt make sense, IMO. WHY BOTHER MAKING SUPER HP SHIPS if you need to SPEED TANK THE HARDEST plex in the game
really, why bother making t2 battleships
2nd complaint is im assuming post patch, the torp DPS is screwed up [/url] |
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Karanth
Gallente Independent Fleet
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Posted - 2008.11.13 16:53:00 -
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Three guesses where the OP sits on this graph.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
Originally by: Trevor Warps
Originally by: ShadowandLight last ship was salvage , didnt think it mattered in the post k tx
Cool, so you planned ahead to bring something to salvage you ****ty ship's wreck.
Look, there is not much point to you being here. You started off as a hatewhine post, and then you just kept on in this trend, mostly disregarding helpfull post and responding to flames.
So ... just buy another ****ty ship, go back in there, get owned, petition and repeat until you quit.
my number 1 complaint is that , if that torp DPS is correct, that you cant TANK the hardest plex in the game with one of the most EXPENSIVE ships in the game
that doesnt make sense, IMO. WHY BOTHER MAKING SUPER HP SHIPS if you need to SPEED TANK THE HARDEST plex in the game
really, why bother making t2 battleships
2nd complaint is im assuming post patch, the torp DPS is screwed up
still being dumb:
1. its not DPS but ALPHA. I can find you guns which deal 10 dps but have ALPHA of 15 000. And if you can not survive 15 000 there is absolutely NO forgiving. You die.
Torp is SAME. It deals 400 (?) DPS but its ALPHA is HUGE. What you already saw.
2. there were no t2 battleships when 10/10 plexes were run. And people RAN them. Even FARMED them. They were as hard or even MUCH HARDER (station ultima with mega-i-pwn-you gun anyone?)
3. golem is primarily MISSION and RATTING ship not dedicated TANKER. Dedicated TANK ships are called COMMAND SHIPS and HEAVY INTERDICTORS. Check bonuses, check base resists, check HP amount.
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Sailon
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Posted - 2008.11.13 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: ShadowandLight guys, i was inside this room for 30!!! seconds
30! , like, saw aggro, got locked by the Tower, and BAM dead
by the time the 1st logistic ship got into the pocket, i was DEAD 10 seconds later
Yeah. Thats 180k em damage for you right there. Tank EM.
so thats why they say dont fit mwd :D
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Mc Fraser
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:03:00 -
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lol the most famout torp ingame.
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Spenz
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Spenz on 13/11/2008 18:13:52 Buahahaha Sansha Battlestation ULTIMA has claimed another victim.
This is NOT a bug. This is ultima we are talking about, the meanest, baddest station that afaik has NEVER been defeated with anything smaller than a gang of capital ships (back when you could still bring cap ships into plexes).
No it cannot be soloed. A guy who had a passive nighthawk with 92% EM resists was still instapopped by the first torpedo. Don't bother using the old wolf-bait trick either, because ultima has a 70+ km webber on it.
So no it isn't a bug. You encountered the true PVE endgame boss and decided to try it solo.
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DeadRow
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Spenz This is ultima we are talking about, the meanest, baddest station that afaik has NEVER been defeated with anything smaller than a gang of capital ships (back when you could still bring cap ships into plexes.
Doubt that. I know the 10/10 is hard, but it impossible sub-cap. As others have said resists aren't high enough, not a bug.
Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
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Mr Ignitious
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
Three guesses where the OP sits on this graph.
i remember this, fav pic ever. My guess, he's lynched. Or on a stake. =)
Clearly the OP doesn't know how KM's work, all the carebearing and he seemed to have forgotten =)
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:41:00 -
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This has to be a troll ... or else it one helluva dumb carebear.
I mean ... 10/10 plex ... the thoughest stuff in this game.
But no, that didn't register. He just happily went in. Of course he was prepared, he had Faction mods on his ship, ensuring the win. Also, said ship is T2, and everybody knows T2 is win. And just to walk-in-the-park it even more, he brought two logistics carebears.
Foreseeing the success of his masterplan, he even brought a salvage ship to collect the spoils of victory !
Then pop he went ... and he cried ...
Life is hard when you leave you cozy lvl 4 missions ...
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Neddy Fox
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:14:00 -
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It's not a bug. It's just what happens if you think you're 1337, and can do it all.
We finished this plex with a claymore (not sure if we looted the Golem :P) and I know you can do it with a nighthawk too, and a vulture will laugh at it too. Just bring a scimi or basilisc, and KNOW WHAT'S COMING.
S&L : Read up information about plexes before you go in. I know I can't do this in my 1 bill Domi, which means I won't loose my ship in such plexes. ---- [PXIN Recruiter]
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zap owned
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