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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:55:00 -
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blueprint toon wrote:see this is always the problem with ccp due to the fact that they think with a socialist mindset. they nerf succesful ppl down wht they truly need to do for miners is put out a mining ship that hold more ore than you can mine in 10 damn minuets. and mines faster. all these new frigging ships over the years what we need want and deserve is a t3 mining ship and a capital mining ship and capital mining drones. buff the miners up dont drag everyone down to the same level. think like a capitalist not a socialist!! That would make it too easy to simply "afk content".
Recall, the minerals you mine are free (right~) so CCP has to get their pound of flesh elsewhere, ie: making you drag stacks of ore to your orca every 3 minutes.
I would love, however, fighter-miners only useable by Supercarriers (mining fit, of course). Yeah, currently the miners exist a lot/mostly in highsec... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
415
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:58:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:From the perspective of a miner, why the heck are minerals appearing without being mined? The rats mine them I suppose.
Even in nullsec, there's dumb rats who mine and somehow (no idea how) refine it down to millions and millions of tritanium which they cart around. Not sure why they do that, any miner would know better but meh. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:59:00 -
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blueprint toon wrote:think like a capitalist and make mining yield faster. or give bigger ships or even more sensable make mining ships with better tanks. so i would have to say most of you knee jerk and miss the fact that taking from one group to boost the other is a bad idea
Or you could think like an economist and realise that increasing production will only reduce prices further. If you don't take loot away from NPCs (drone poo included), increasing the production of mining will simply make life worse for miners, because they will have to mine more in order to make the same income.
A proper capitalist would pick the industry that generates the most profits, rather than engaging in socialist thinking and demanding better income from whatever industry they've chosen to engage in. The fact that you cannot even grasp the simple concept of the impact of supply on price, and then further confuse the viewpoints of capitalism and socialism, suggests that you have a lot to learn about this topic before you consider posting again.
Capitalism: pick an industry to make a profit from, invest in the capital to participate in that industry, then drive the workers' wages down to control costs while continuing to service your production capital. This has been the definition of Capitalism since the term was defined by Karl Marx.
If CCP were taking a "Socialist" approach, they wouldn't be removing loot from NPCs, they'd be making sure that the loot gets delivered to miners to refine. |
blueprint toon
arcane machine shop
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:09:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:[quote=blueprint toon]
Capitalism: pick an industry to make a profit from, invest in the capital to participate in that industry, then drive the workers' wages down to control costs while continuing to service your production capital. This has been the definition of Capitalism since the term was defined by Karl Marx.
anything marx said about capitalism was a lie please stop listening to your liberal teachers marx hatted capitalism at his very core |
Nimrod vanHall
Impulsive Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:33:00 -
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blueprint toon wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:[quote=blueprint toon]
Capitalism: pick an industry to make a profit from, invest in the capital to participate in that industry, then drive the workers' wages down to control costs while continuing to service your production capital. This has been the definition of Capitalism since the term was defined by Karl Marx.
anything marx said about capitalism was a lie please stop listening to your liberal teachers marx hatted capitalism at his very core
The fact that Karl Marx hated the effects of capitalism on the proletariat (the peopple that do not own production forces) does not derail from the fact that Karl Marx did make one of the best analyses of the workings of capitalism up until now. The problem with Political Marxism is that it ignores the notion that human beeings are a selfish lot.
p.s. Libelarism means that a human should have the liberty to act as he or she pleases, culturally politically and economically. the economic system that belongs to liberalism is capitalism.
p.p.s I know that liberalism currently means something else in the united states, but the language of this forum is English and not American :P |
papamike
Precipice Industries
20
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:57:00 -
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The real question is what would ****** (ah... Zee Fuhrer) do?
Unbelievable that a name like that is considered crass whilst shitfight is a-ok |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
611
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:05:00 -
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Nimrod vanHall wrote: p.s. Libelarism means that a human should have the liberty to act as he or she pleases, culturally politically and economically. the economic system that belongs to liberalism is capitalism.
"Libertarianism" is the word better used in the US, or laissez-faire. They are closer to the traditional European use of "liberal". A number of Americans may disagree, but this is mainly due to the fact that Libertarianisim is a subset of the republican party, and both the democrats and the neo-cons and moral majority boobs (who were democrats until the late 50s and early 70s), want to make it a dirty word. |
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