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Slyton Silur
NorCorp Security Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.14 13:25:00 -
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So has this feature been turned off in QR? Because ever since the patch i've not been able to open the monitor. |
Jin Kurasawa
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Posted - 2008.11.15 17:07:00 -
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Same here. Even if I assign it another shortcut, it doesn't work.
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CCP Atlas
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Posted - 2008.11.15 17:37:00 -
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The monitor is no longer available outside our internal development and quality assurance teams. Out of curiosity, what are you using it for? |
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Tinkerbele
Serret's Harem
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Posted - 2008.11.15 18:29:00 -
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I use it to see performance. Another stealth nerf? Why would you need to be secret squirrel with that one? Afraid too many people would see the absolute horrid performance with this stupid patch???
Does CCP even have a QA team (That would be QUALITY ASSURANCE), or do you just do a little programming and then send it out?
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Lord EmBra
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.15 19:38:00 -
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I used it to look at outstandings and traffic during laggy fleetfights. It helped alot knowing that the command was sent and that I shouldn't keep spamming warp/fire or anything else. |
Stuyvesant
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Posted - 2008.11.16 00:56:00 -
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I also use this to monitor incoming and outstanding traffic to see if i have lost connection. please return this to the user.
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Hangman69
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.16 07:08:00 -
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This feature is good to know how much commands you have going outbound and how much data you have coming to you. Its also good to know how much ram your client is using. (like this memory leak currently)
Please return it to the game.
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Xhepe Noyan
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Posted - 2008.11.16 07:24:00 -
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Signed back and forth
Why on earth remove this feature?
i also would like to point out the fact that besides simply monitoring, u were able to uncheck both root cache and memory mapping
which was particularly helpful with smooth gameplay and fps
bring it back ASAP |
RedeyeAce
Caldari Demogorgon's Army
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Posted - 2008.11.16 10:20:00 -
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/signed
Didnt know about this, however as it only works client side I cant see the reason to remove it. It seems really usefull, especially for checking youve attempted to activate modules and nothing happens.
Extremely usefull indeed!!!!!! |
sajberk
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.16 11:17:00 -
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I used this alot in laggy enviroments checking outstandings etc.
I really miss this tool!
pls bring it back
/ saj |
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AtlantisX
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Posted - 2008.11.16 11:38:00 -
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Used to monitor my connection, specifically to see if my packets were reaching the server and vice versa in case of desync/disconnect.
Would be nice to see it return.
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javer
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.16 13:38:00 -
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why remove a tool that didnt do anything but give info on network lag and mem leak(yes there is one and its ramping up to near 2004 lvls) -------------------------------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their Level and beat you with experience. |
Slyton Silur
NorCorp Security Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.16 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Slyton Silur on 16/11/2008 14:17:49 As many already have mentioned, it was nice to check when things got laggy, also i liked the reset button, had the feeling that it made things smoother after playing for a while, even though i never quite understood what it did :P
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UVPhoenix2
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Posted - 2008.11.16 19:04:00 -
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So it was removed intentionally? That's odd. It was just a simple, harmless debugging tool; something I used frequently for various purposes.
- Ian
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Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve
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Posted - 2008.11.16 19:33:00 -
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I'm sorry, what game are the dev team working on if they don't know what we use the monitor for?
Honestly?
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |
Sleepkevert
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.16 21:47:00 -
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I tried to open it since I wanted to see the memory usage with all the memory leak threads. Plus seeing that your client is still receiving "some" data is always good to know.
Maybe remove some of the other pages, but please, return the first page with memory usage and network statistics, it was useful sometimes. |
0vermama
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Posted - 2008.11.16 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas The monitor is no longer available outside our internal development and quality assurance teams. Out of curiosity, what are you using it for?
give back, ccp nubs dont even know how to use that also your QR client is a joke |
Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.17 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Bane Glorious on 17/11/2008 03:09:08 The ctrl+alt+shift+m panel has been said to re-sync players that have desynced. I doubt that it actually does anything. |
Sparky12
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.17 11:33:00 -
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It was a very useful tool please bring it back. |
BogWopit
Amarr The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.17 13:01:00 -
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/signed
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Ubidak
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.17 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas The monitor is no longer available outside our internal development and quality assurance teams. Out of curiosity, what are you using it for?
Out of curiosity, why did you remove it? |
Sleepkevert
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious Edited by: Bane Glorious on 17/11/2008 03:09:08 The ctrl+alt+shift+m panel has been said to re-sync players that have desynced. I doubt that it actually does anything.
This is a myth, the reset button that is supposed to fix that does nothing else then reset the little counters that are on that page. But that doesn't make it any less useful. |
DarkSnipe
REUNI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.17 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sleepkevert
Originally by: Bane Glorious Edited by: Bane Glorious on 17/11/2008 03:09:08 The ctrl+alt+shift+m panel has been said to re-sync players that have desynced. I doubt that it actually does anything.
This is a myth, the reset button that is supposed to fix that does nothing else then reset the little counters that are on that page. But that doesn't make it any less useful.
He's right. Much like the goggles, the reset does nothing.
-D |
Tal Nok
Amarr Digital assassins G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.17 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas The monitor is no longer available outside our internal development and quality assurance teams. Out of curiosity, what are you using it for?
tbfh I used it to argue the finer points of "our server logs do not detect that there was any lag" in conjunction with wire shark which usually gave the copy and paste answer of "I'm sorry but we cannot provide any details about our internal network and will close this petition".
It was also nifty to look at.
BTW, I still know I was right, and someone got scared that I knew more than them, and closed my lag reimbursements :)
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY.
Need sacrifice.
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Dustra Eschadi
Gallente Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.17 18:02:00 -
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Signed.
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2008.11.17 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas The monitor is no longer available outside our internal development and quality assurance teams. Out of curiosity, what are you using it for?
While we're on the subject of asking questions that are obviously double edged here, why not just say what exploit was "fixed" by disallowing us the usage of this window? Trying to ask all stealth like in such an innocent manner is highly telling. >_> Social engineering ftl?
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Lukas Gaunt
Caldari Heaven's Avatars Void.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rilwar
Originally by: CCP Atlas The monitor is no longer available outside our internal development and quality assurance teams. Out of curiosity, what are you using it for?
While we're on the subject of asking questions that are obviously double edged here, why not just say what exploit was "fixed" by disallowing us the usage of this window? Trying to ask all stealth like in such an innocent manner is highly telling. >_> Social engineering ftl?
Is that what the internal developement and QA team are using it for? Exploits? BANZORZ YOUR EMPLOYEES CCP, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! |
Anndy
Caldari Muramasa Inc
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:19:00 -
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was a great tool and it should be brought back ASAP
also next time you remove something that people have used for 5 years please tell us
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Chibisuke
Gallente Children of Avalon
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Posted - 2008.11.18 08:05:00 -
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The monitor was a great tool to find out the memory deltas of the client. Especialy when running multiple clients it came more then handy.
So CCP, I suggest you get it back in there.
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but I think we should get used to it like its now, and figure out how to reenable it ourself. I don't think they completely removed it, but simply disabled it, so there must be an option to reenable it anythere. (prefs.ini maybe?, some sort of setting file?, but maybe only my RAM module has some sort of error reporting the wrong values back at the right location ;) )
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X1376
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.18 13:05:00 -
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What memory deltas? Since when you know anything about internals of EVE? You got source code? What leaks? If just client cache settings are in terms of small, extreme and so on, you will never know how big your cache really is and how exactly it works and what is happening at all between clients. Good they removed this tool, at least there will be less whiners misinterpretting what it shows.
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