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Kurai Okala
Okala Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.06 18:25:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:There was a post fanfest interview with soundwave at 10 tonn hammer it was in the news letter sent out like... yesterday?
Thanks for the heads-up! I'm going to go check it out now.
**EDIT**
Are you talking about the two-part video interview? If so, can you tell me what he said about star bases? I"m at work and can't access the video :( |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
98
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Posted - 2012.04.06 18:34:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Kurai Okala wrote: I've watched several fanfests over the years and many (if not most) of the concepts the devs talk about there never make it into the game (fleet formations, player-owned establisments, atmospheric flight, comet mining, etc etc) Adding to that... worthwhile PI, with libraries creating skill books, actual PvP with your neighbors, pollution, population control, yeah it was going to be freaking awesome = click-click-click. Only excitement you have now is when you PI in low or null. So I agree, I believe it when it hits TQ.
This should have been implemented since day 1.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3698
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Posted - 2012.04.06 18:39:00 -
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Kurai Okala wrote:Nova Fox wrote:There was a post fanfest interview with soundwave at 10 tonn hammer it was in the news letter sent out like... yesterday? Thanks for the heads-up! I'm going to go check it out now. **EDIT** Are you talking about the two-part video interview? If so, can you tell me what he said about star bases? I"m at work and can't access the video :(
CCP soundwave didnt get to far into it bascially said art team is busy and they want to make star basing meaningful and its going to take time to make the earliest they can start laying the foundation would be for the winter expansion.
Now what he means by foundation is unobvious. He also said the art team is very busy and if they wherent we'd be seeing a new destroyer or two possibly utilizing the many new modules comming this expansion.
Foundationing could be the code to support it. Which in all respects to eve codes, should be easy verses oh a destiney rewrite which would be a hidous monster of a task.
Foundations for a player point of view would be to establish a small set of features then build off of it. The removal of moon mining was along the lines in the economic sector where soundwave declared no more afk isking in many more words than that.
Things like higher sales taxes in empire. No more RP datacores (I start cashing in the RPs if you been stockpiling then save the cores until post patch.) Then the well known up and comming 10% bounty nerf on all npcs. The drone gutting and removing meta 0s from all loot tables (if a player can build it form a blueprint they can buy its not dropping anymore) which almost sounded like standard ammo and batteries also getting removed.
Which goes back to planetary ring mining replacing the moon base mining.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji
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Posted - 2012.04.06 20:06:00 -
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Roime wrote:But a new player also makes more ISK from mining, no?
Not when you get ganked every 10 mins. |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
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Posted - 2012.04.06 20:26:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:
Goons said they want to ruin YOUR game. Not THE game. Driving away all the other players would make the game not fun. Also, neither Soundwave nor Sreegs are goons anymore.
Bollocks
once a goon always a goon, overtly or not.
I'm not saying that is a bad thing by the way, even if they think I bop freakishly in my CQ. I love a good dig at the goons just as much as they love dissing anyone outside their magic circle. play the game, it's fun.
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XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2012.04.06 21:19:00 -
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Where are the features? open your eyes, the very foundations of New Eden are being shaken. Bugs are being fixed, attitudes are shifting towards making the core game functional, space and the ships within are coming to the forefront of importance.
Instead of pushing some magical feature that gets half done root problems of the game are being addressed for the first time in years and the true importance of supporting emergent gaming through the players is getting the sharp focus that it has always deserved.
War is the theme of this expansion and it is taking shape to live up to it. Economic war, political war, regional conflict, even war in high sec is getting a massive boost as the boring standards and expected are getting ready to take a boot to the arse and let the players write the next chapter.
I hope they keep shaking the foundations so hard the monuments of apathy and complacency built over the years start to crumble under their own hubris and weakness born of comfort.
If you look between the lines things also seem to be pointing towards a re-vamp of industry and resource acquisition as well and while im no miner or industrialist these parts of the game absolutely deserve the love they haven't had since the games inception.
You might not like it, but it's this path and sticking to it that will do more for the game than any silly half baked feature could hope to.
The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.04.06 21:31:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Blizzard said it themselves, customizable addons was the worst thing they ever done because its forcing players that 'addons' are required to play the game and that those with addons will always have an advantage over those who don't.
Yet I managed to tank and heal in most raids with the stock UI and a raid leader with a stopwatch. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.06 21:40:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Blizzard said it themselves, customizable addons was the worst thing they ever done because its forcing players that 'addons' are required to play the game and that those with addons will always have an advantage over those who don't. Yet I managed to tank and heal in most raids with the stock UI and a raid leader with a stopwatch.
I wished they would stop nurfing warriors. Not my fault a pvp warrior is pushing 113kpds in arenas ><
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.06 22:28:00 -
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This WoW talk ends now. Shame on you.
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation
Deadly Unknown
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Posted - 2012.04.06 22:56:00 -
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I am excited about rim mining. It's about time I had an account with a rim job.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.04.06 22:59:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:What you expect, ccps trailers are BS and so are the notes and everything else... they likely saw the troll vid of what it COULD be... and are like... O ****... this EXP sucks balls like almost every other one.
yeah! eve was better when there was only 2 expansions!
They all sucked only two of them were useful at all!
/sarcasm |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
White-Lotus
516
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Posted - 2012.04.06 23:09:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Tobiaz wrote:Alxea wrote:They also talk about ring mining. I thought that was for the winter expansion or even further down the track. Yeah, that was the Winter 2012 expansion.
So now we are complaining that CCP wants to make only one big expansion a year, with a smaller expansion in the summer?
I thought everyone was mad at CCP for making two big expansions a year and not delivering? didn't we fight to get just one large expansion a year? Most mmos only one expansion every 2-3 years, I'm ok with only 1 expansion of content every year. I try to consider each other expansion a fun extra bag of bug fixes and balancing.
yes you hear me, i WANT A BALANCE EXPANSION ONE A YEAR, followed by a large feature expansion, which will have a whole year of work into the planning instead of 6 months.
I know most features are being worked on for 2 years, but they usually only choose which features should be ready and polished 4-6 months in advance. By planning out 9-12 months in advance we'll get bigger, less buggy expansions. Which monthly patches of work they finish that is balance or seeding related.
IN other words if Inferno only has war dec changes, missles, and new minmatar and ammar V3d, that would be enough. I'm happy they won't rush out a bunch of unfinished content anymore.
I'd even be happy if eve only had 1 expansion every 2 years, with balancing and tweak only in the meantime, with a giant 2 years of work expansion, massive addition to the game. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
White-Lotus
518
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Posted - 2012.04.06 23:15:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Kurai Okala wrote: I've watched several fanfests over the years and many (if not most) of the concepts the devs talk about there never make it into the game (fleet formations, player-owned establisments, atmospheric flight, comet mining, etc etc) Adding to that... worthwhile PI, with libraries creating skill books, actual PvP with your neighbors, pollution, population control, yeah it was going to be freaking awesome = click-click-click. Only excitement you have now is when you PI in low or null. So I agree, I believe it when it hits TQ.
Don't forget, all of this for is for the Dust154 beta. IT's going to interact with eve directly. That's a HUGE feature, even it has been made mostly by a different team other than eve online. The new PI system is usable in DUST on the PS3, from what it sounds like they are mostly throw away the current PI system.
Which was a terrible idea in the 1st place. Making a feature 2-3 years before the other half is released.... we all knew it was going to get the axe when dust came out. And that's a good thing. Weneed population control, and land to fight over.
How can you have conflict if as many players as possible can be building on a planet? |
MICH00000
The Pakk Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.04.07 02:16:00 -
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Excited for the new bomber models, that and everything else.  |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.07 02:24:00 -
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+1 Give us some game content please CCP
Meta is for Puppies |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.04.07 02:24:00 -
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We got shiny new Noob ships.
You thought they did that for no reason at all? |
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.07 03:26:00 -
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Give me a link to the inferno page please, I can't find it anywhere on the website |
Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.07 05:05:00 -
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Gogela wrote:WarDec Overhaul - This is big for eve and will change the empire experience for sure. No more dec shields - can demand ransoms via the mechanic - can hire merc corps to defend via the mechanic - penalty charge and extra long timer to drop corp during war plus it's on your characters record - cost of dec based on size of target in terms of pilots
Crimewatch - New aggression mechanics game-wide. Can turn in officer and commander tags to up your sec status (from -10 to +5) - 2 levels of high sec crime: misdemeanors (anyone can shoot you but no police or CONCORD) and felon (CONCORDDOKKEN). Can flippers and looters flagged as misdemeanors now.
These are radical (for CCP) changes that haven't been touched really since this game was made. I think it's going to give the game a much needed shakeup... I mean these are foundational mechanics of the game!
They better follow through with the misdemeanors. The tears it will create will be glorious |
Denidil
Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.04.07 05:06:00 -
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Roime wrote:But a new player also makes more ISK from mining, no?
^^ exactly
i made my first ooh.. 1.4mil isk mining all night in a navitas (i **** you not.. lol)
i made my first 500mil selling faction loot off pirates who were camping YMP<-->Kari bridge..... three weeks after the above.
I have found this new mysterious resource called "Life" |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5948
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Posted - 2012.04.07 05:22:00 -
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Actual features, afaik:
-+ Wardec revamp.
-+ Corp and personal history revamp
-+ Missile graphics revamp.
-+ Crimewatch revamp.
-+ Amarr / Mintmatar V3
-+ Mining made meaningful
GG*and maybe some of the UI revamp as well (unified item management and all that).
GG#If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GkmvGkm you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GG%
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.07 05:27:00 -
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The actual Inferno features were right here, all along.
*points to your heart* |
Tedrizze
Gulfonodi Gerstensaft GmbH
New Eden Braumeistergewerkschaft
1
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Posted - 2012.04.08 18:57:00 -
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Irisa Selenia wrote:I want the expansion from that april fool's video.
Or maybe that volcanic sulfur has done too much brain damage?
do you have a link for that video? cant find it :(  |
Coolsmoke
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.08 19:11:00 -
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I read all of this.
Nerf = Feature.
And other stuff.
Well. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.04.08 19:12:00 -
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Coolsmoke wrote:I read all of this.
Nerf = Feature.
And other stuff.
Well.
Indeed.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
428
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Posted - 2012.04.08 21:31:00 -
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id make expansions free also if they were nothing but fixes.
I have more space likes than you.-a |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2012.04.08 21:40:00 -
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CCP dun tricked us again. Promising a war themed expansion and then focusing 100% on minerals. It still a war expansion, just a war on rocks. Sad face. |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2012.04.08 21:56:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:
Blizzard said it themselves, customizable addons was the worst thing they ever done because its forcing players that 'addons' are required to play the game and that those with addons will always have an advantage over those who don't.
Who said that?
Was it the team that made WoW a game with millions of subscribers?
Or was it the team which put a gun to the cash cow's head and pulled the trigger?
If it's the group that though Giant Talking Pandas were a great idea... then you need to pay more attention to who you are listening to. |
Zverofaust
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.04.09 00:06:00 -
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While I am appalled at the OP's badpoasting I do agree Inferno seems to be the sorriest excuse yet for an actual "expansion" and hardly even qualifies for a +.1 to Crucible's current version. The list of features are by and large a list of gameplay tweaks and feature removals. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.04.09 00:18:00 -
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At the current speed , Eve needs at least three more bugfixing/balancing expansions after neglecting the game for almost three years.
They could just speed up the process by simply nerfing projectiles of course.
You know... morons. |
Holy One
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.04.09 00:22:00 -
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Quote:I've been playing Eve for a bit over 3 1/2 years. What I like to do is run missions and make isk to buy shiny new fancy ships to run more missions in.
legit quote from legit 'player' |
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