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Reah Loth
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
13
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:47:00 -
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Went through all the troubleshooting before posting :)
The weird thing is that it works for a few imports, then it stops. It reports no errors when I do the "cache import", the orders simply don't update.
The only thing I can think of that might be different from me and most other users is that I use this method to run multiple clients from the same installation.
I don't know how it would matter, as every client has its own cache (which is why I use this method), but it might be worth mentioning. |
Reah Loth
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
13
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:41:00 -
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Reah Loth wrote:Went through all the troubleshooting before posting :) The weird thing is that it works for a few imports, then it stops. It reports no errors when I do the "cache import", the orders simply don't update. The only thing I can think of that might be different from me and most other users is that I use this method to run multiple clients from the same installation. I don't know how it would matter, as every client has its own cache (which is why I use this method), but it might be worth mentioning. Edit: Made some extra installations to test, it still only imports once or twice then stops working.
Man was I dumb back then! After wasting some of Thart's time, it turns out that it was working all along..
Thanks for the great service :) |
Yabba Addict
Red Shift Enterprises
57
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:08:00 -
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Would it be possible to add in say the top 3 competitors prices if you aren't at the top of the queue, and to be able to select which price to beat. This could be used to update prices that have been beaten by someone with a stupidly low sell order that you don't want to beat, but want to be first to sell after he runs out. Another idea I had would be to show your profit % on the update order price box with the new price.
Great app though, loving it so far
EDIT: And boo for Screegs, it's pretty clear he's a minority at CCP as they have been actively supporting scraping for years, does he think the export to file button which was introduced years ago was there for decoration? |
Reah Loth
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
13
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Posted - 2013.02.24 01:12:00 -
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@Yabba: You can already do this. When selecting an order under "Character orders" the bottom panel shows you the current orders for that item on market. You can right click any of them and select "copy recommended price, which gives you the price to beat that order. |
Rizon Nihilon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.24 05:44:00 -
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Hi. Very new user here -- to both Eve and Mentat. I've imported my character and see all the orders but I have a couple of really frustrating problems.
The first is minor. And now that I've restarted everything (and reloaded my character) seems to have taken care of itself. I wasn't able to stop the "fulfilled orders" from appearing by using filters unless I clicked "show only orders that require attention" (and then it seemed like I wasn't seeing all of my active orders). IDK. In any case... that seems to have resolved itself.
The second issue is really making me lose my mind though. "Data too old" continues to appear even after I've freshly run the market scanner and hit "cache import" + "file import" after exporting from my current orders page in game. How can the data be too old?! Is that accurate? Am I doing something wrong? When I update a price on an item that has been "overrode" the system corrects for that, and the "price status" for some items (which I'm doing nothing with except with the marker scanner in the same stations) says "ok" for the price status -- but for other items it still says the data is too old. I don't know if that is accurate or if I'm doing something wrong, or what.
I've tried just about everything imaginable with all the settings... but am at an impasse. |
Reah Loth
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
13
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:56:00 -
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Rizon Nihilon wrote:
The second issue is really making me lose my mind though. "Data too old" continues to appear even after I've freshly run the market scanner and hit "cache import" + "file import" after exporting from my current orders page in game. How can the data be too old?! Is that accurate? Am I doing something wrong? When I update a price on an item that has been "overrode" the system corrects for that, and the "price status" for some items (which I'm doing nothing with except with the marker scanner in the same stations) says "ok" for the price status -- but for other items it still says the data is too old. I don't know if that is accurate or if I'm doing something wrong, or what.
This one had me wondering too! The data doesn't update unless it has changed. If you know you have scanned that item and it still says "data too old" it quite simply means that the data hasn't changed.
Edit: For the filters, there are 2 settings. If you don't want to see fulfilled orders un-check fulfilled orders in the "Status Filter". It is the button between "file import" and "show only". |
Rizon Nihilon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:49:00 -
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Reah Loth wrote: This one had me wondering too! The data doesn't update unless it has changed. If you know you have scanned that item and it still says "data too old" it quite simply means that the data hasn't changed.
Edit: For the filters, there are 2 settings. If you don't want to see fulfilled orders un-check fulfilled orders in the "Status Filter". It is the button between "file import" and "show only".
Ok thanks. That's good to know. Wish I had known about that before spending hours trying to fix the problem. And everything seems to be working out just fine today anyway. Mentat is nice, but it really does seem a bit buggy and particular.
The filters thing seems to have worked itself out too, but I was using all the various settings you were suggesting and couldn't get "fulfilled" out of the list no matter which filters I was adding or subtracting. Like I say though... it seems to have worked itself out.
Now I'm just gonna go try to earn some ISK. |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
15
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Posted - 2013.02.25 09:13:00 -
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Erick Johnson wrote:When I update the market details from cache Eve Mentat and I click the individual line item it will show me the price difference between what I am selling / buying at and the best competitor price. So, you want to see difference between current price and closest competitor's price in a special column in orders table. Am I right? I think it's more useful to add "Competitor's price" column and then difference can be expressed as [Price] - [Competitors price]
Erick Johnson wrote:What I was hoping was to show / limit the orders that I have only been overbid on by set amounts so I can quickly update those, does that make more sense? I'm not sure if it makes sense, because such criteria is not acceptable for all orders. I think it's possible to achive this with filter. But it needs additional column like "Overbid amount". The expression will be like:
[Overbid amount] > 10 or [Overbid amount] / [Volume] > 0.1
I'll add both these columns in the next update. EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
15
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Posted - 2013.02.25 09:17:00 -
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Yabba Addict wrote:Would it be possible to add in say the top 3 competitors prices if you aren't at the top of the queue, and to be able to select which price to beat. This could be used to update prices that have been beaten by someone with a stupidly low sell order that you don't want to beat, but want to be first to sell after he runs out. Thanks to Reah Loth for answering this question.
Yabba Addict wrote:Another idea I had would be to show your profit % on the update order price box with the new price. Planned. EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
15
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Posted - 2013.02.25 09:34:00 -
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Does anybody know how to receive e-mail notification when there are new posts in this thread for instance? EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
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Wafou Ka'Djo
Yellow Box Ltd. Gentlemen's Agreement
7
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Posted - 2013.02.25 10:31:00 -
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Thart wrote:Does anybody know how to receive e-mail notification when there are new posts in this thread for instance?
I think it's not possible. The "Receive notifications for this topic" gives you useless notifications within EveGate/Forum. |
Tobilth Kring
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.03.03 13:11:00 -
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Just wondering I use an alt to buy stuff ship it to a region then sell it there on another toon, Is there a way to have the price of items set to the cost from my alt instead of having to set it manually |
Reah Loth
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
13
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:35:00 -
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Tobilth Kring wrote:Just wondering I use an alt to buy stuff ship it to a region then sell it there on another toon, Is there a way to have the price of items set to the cost from my alt instead of having to set it manually
On your alt, go to transactions. Select "buy orders". Press CTRL-A to select everything, right click and select "set multiple cost". |
Tobilth Kring
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.03.04 07:14:00 -
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Reah Loth wrote:Tobilth Kring wrote:Just wondering I use an alt to buy stuff ship it to a region then sell it there on another toon, Is there a way to have the price of items set to the cost from my alt instead of having to set it manually On your alt, go to transactions. Select "buy orders". Press CTRL-A to select everything, right click and select "set multiple cost".
thanks for that actually worked perfectly |
Duchy Duke
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:59:00 -
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Thart wrote:Does anybody know how to receive e-mail notification when there are new posts in this thread for instance?
You can form the thread into an RSS feed with the RSS button at the top of the thread. It's not email, but it's push (like email) vrs pull (like these forums).
I have an unrelated question also. There are certain orders that Mentat sees as being (in-range) competitors to my buy orders, but as far as I can tell they are not (example: Region Khanid, Neyi 10 Jumps vrs. Palas 5 Jumps) I've looked at some 2D maps to try and see where they overlap and they don't seem to. This leads me to my main question; is there a way to disregard a competitors order ID relative to one of my buy orders for the purposes of Mentat deciding if the order is "overridden"? (hope that makes sense)
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Stacy Blackoak
Der Tobende Mob
2
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:20:00 -
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Nice tool, thanks |
Jaq Royale
Royale Strategic Imperative
3
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Posted - 2013.04.08 18:53:00 -
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I can't tell you how much I enjoy using this tool. Thank you kindly. |
Gheyna
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
82
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:15:00 -
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I love this tool :D
is there any plan to add profit from contracts? |
Sharpstock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:08:00 -
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Quote:I'd like to give this program a try but every time I go to add a character I get:
Error 203: Authentication Error
All the API information is correct. I've checked the website for any possible solutions, besides make a new one. I've done that one already.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Annnnnnddd never mind, I'm going to back to licking windows. |
Kira Everm4x
Delta Division.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:37:00 -
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Seems that this tool can be illegal now ... is this true? |
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Florian Bao
Black Box Technologies
26
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:00:00 -
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hey guys, quick question:
assuming i have a corp key, but not the character key associated with this corpkeys owner.
can I use the tool properly, since I get some importing errors all the time. |
Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
58
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Posted - 2013.06.29 00:29:00 -
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1) Is there a way to force EVE Mentat to update its entire market journal/transaction history, as far back as (multiple calls, using multiple fromID values, to) EVE's WalletJournal/WalletTransactions APIs go?
2) If not, I'd like to update Mentat's local database manually. What format is EVE Mentat's dynamic database .database file in, and is there a way to interconvert between that and MySQL?
I can see that Mentat makes multiple API queries when requesting journal/transaction data, I assume because there's more new data than a single call can return. However, in my case it seems to miss big swathes of history. There's a two-day period where I don't have any journal/transaction data, for example. I know that any particular API call has a maximum number of entries (1000 by default, 2560 if you send it a rowCount parameter), but that doesn't seem to explain the problem; if I move the local database and make Mentat start a new one, it only queries back about a week before giving up, and I know there's more data available farther back in time from the API by looking at manual calls.
Thanks. EVE Mentat seems like it'll be very useful, but at the moment this partial data coverage problem is driving me nuts, and I may be forced to write a manual solution anyway. |
Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
58
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:01:00 -
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Okay. So.
TL:DR I have my wallet transaction data but I cannot update Eve Mentat's database file, how do I do so manually.
After many, many ImportXML calls in Google Docs and a lot of reading, I now have my entire month's wallet transaction history sitting safe and sound in an Excel spreadsheet. There are, indeed, plenty of transactions that EVE Mentat misses, even when I delete its old database file and make it construct a new one.
I can't figure out how to update the database file though. I figured out it was SQLite, downloaded the SQLite Browser, and attempted to update manually, but the application won't let me mass-INSERT into an existing database from a CSV file, and if I drop the existing mentatTransactions table and import a new one from a CSV file, EVE Mentat fails to recognize it (I assume from some kind of index-breaking problem from the new table? I'm no SQL expert) and downloads a new transaction history (placing it into MY new mentatTransactions table, interestingly).
I would be very, very appreciative for any help on how to get the transaction data - that I have! It's sitting right there on my screen! - into Eve Mentat. I love the app but hate spending nine hours data wrangling.
Edit: you KNOW I'm exhausted when I start making typos.
Edit edit: I really think the simplest solution would be a "Force Eve Mentat to download your entire wallet transaction/journal history, not just until it starts finding duplicate entries" toggle. |
Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
58
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Posted - 2013.06.29 20:59:00 -
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To anyone FROM THE FUTURE that had the same problem and is reading this, I seem to have made progress deleting all records from the mentatTransactions table from a clean (i.e. Eve Mentat-generated) database, but not the table itself, i.e.
*save CSV file with your transaction history, collated elsewhere and sitting in e.g. an excel file*
*use SQLite Browser to import that CSV as a new table with a placeholder name, e.g. bob*
DELETE FROM mentatTransactions INSERT INTO mentatTransactions SELECT * FROM bob
I'll post again if I get everything working. |
Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
58
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:59:00 -
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Yup, got it working. I can now reliably recover an entire month's worth of transaction and journal history (as much as CCP makes available through the API) into my Eve Mentat local database, which is comforting.
Potential pitfalls:
1) Eve Mentat's picky about the date/time formatting. It's YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS (note the hyphens and the leading zeros), even though it isn't displayed as such within Eve Mentat.
2) Another formatting thing: Eve Mentat doesn't store "price" (in transactions) or "amount" or "balance" (in journal) as decimals; it stores them as ints, equal to price * 100, so the 1s place equals the hundreths place in the actual price. You'll need to convert.
3) SQLite Browser takes FOREVER to import CSV tables because it creates and closes a connection to the SQL database for EACH RECORD. This StackOverflow discussion was very helpful in providing a script + command line instruction to use to import directly using SQLite3, which is far, far faster (I'm talking 1-2 seconds versus 1-2 hours; wish I'd learned that earlier).
Good luck to anyone that ends up having to do this.
And, again, I humbly suggest that adding a way to force Eve Mentat to download an entire month's journal + transaction history, so it can do all this heavy lifting instead of a user, would be a nice feature. |
Blademaster Hattori
Blood Raven Assault Squadron
1
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Posted - 2013.08.29 19:23:00 -
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This is great tool is only the import was working all i get is stale messages when its clearly not |
Yabba Addict
The Lost Minmatar Legion LEX LEGIONEM
72
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:10:00 -
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Can't seem to get the cache scrape to work since the update, deleting the cache doesn't work |
Caerfinon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:18:00 -
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Yabba Addict wrote:Can't seem to get the cache scrape to work since the update, deleting the cache doesn't work
Seems all cache scaping apps got hit.
Ftrom Twitter;
Quote:Fuzzysteve GÇÅ@Fuzzysteve 2h hmm. @erlendur? has someone changed the caching for market data without telling us? #devfleet
Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur 2h @Fuzzysteve Very possibly, we made a number of low-level changes in this release. Do you have a forum thread? Cheers C. |
Blademaster Hattori
Blood Raven Assault Squadron
3
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:59:00 -
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Anyone still getting stale data? PI_Trader - Creating, designing and managing your PI sales market tool |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1866
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:39:00 -
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Blademaster Hattori wrote:Anyone still getting stale data?
Yes. Everyone.
The cache has changed format, and until there's an updated release, you won't get updated data. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
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