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Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:29:00 -
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Ok I won't drag on as it been posted about before but is anything being done about the real life prices and the in game prices?
Used to cost me around 7 english pounds a month per account. Its now around 11.50-12 pounds a month per account. or 23-24 pounds in one pop per account every 2 months. Thats over a 50% rise in cost of playing eve.
This combined with the in game isk price rising to 300mill a month or 600 mill in one pop is making it impossible to pay for accounts one way or the other.
How is this benefiting eve or CCP in the long run?
Answer from a GM please. |
Ishikari
Gallente Ishikari Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:36:00 -
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In game isk prices are set by players, players will sell them for what people will pay. So, blame the players for the high isk prices. |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ishikari In game isk prices are set by players, players will sell them for what people will pay. So, blame the players for the high isk prices.
Then maybe CCP should set a max limit on what GTC's can be sold for in isk. Thats also does not change the fact that the real life money cost of GTC's and playing the game has risen to over 50% more than before. |
Tappits
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Originally by: Ishikari In game isk prices are set by players, players will sell them for what people will pay. So, blame the players for the high isk prices.
Then maybe CCP should set a max limit on what GTC's can be sold for in isk. Thats also does not change the fact that the real life money cost of GTC's and playing the game has risen to over 50% more than before.
it has nothing to do with CCP if people are willing to pay 600mill isk for 60day GTC then thats what its worth. if people did not kkep buying these things at this price then it would come down. as for haveing to pay more for the game i love, so what. i will keep paying my ú9 p/m per account till i no longer like playing just like every one elce does. if you dont think the grind (eve) is worth the úú dont play? |
ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:45:00 -
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30 days used to cost 160million ish and now it's double that. ain't that 100% ;oP
whilst it doesn't affect me i can observe that the market is being exposed to unhealthy influences which drive the prices of game time up; isk farmers think nothing of paying more, where-as a normal casual player will wince at the 100% rise in game time cost. Isk farmers carry on, casual players get hurt, players who sell GTCs turn a blind eye and say 'market forces'.
:/ |
Alex Salas
BROTHERHOOD OF SPARTA Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Originally by: Ishikari In game isk prices are set by players, players will sell them for what people will pay. So, blame the players for the high isk prices.
Then maybe CCP should set a max limit on what GTC's can be sold for in isk. Thats also does not change the fact that the real life money cost of GTC's and playing the game has risen to over 50% more than before.
Then they are implicitly setting an exchange rate which has its own set of issues. |
Minny Sky
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:45:00 -
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Get a job. |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:45:00 -
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The euro and dollar price haven't changed. So the rise of the GTC's in pounds must be caused by changes in the international exchange rates.
Want to hold CCP responsible for that too? |
ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Minny Sky Get a job.
he might have one which is why he can't grind level 4 missions all the time to pay for GTC. i dunno.
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant This combined with the in game isk price rising to 300mill a month or 600 mill in one pop is making it impossible to pay for accounts one way or the other.
Simple solution - don't use GTCs!
Don't have/want a creditcard? Pay what the GTCs cost. Don't want that? Don¦t play.
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Kikki Di'je
Lay Low
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:51:00 -
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Get a better job
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Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:54:00 -
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Typical responces.....Anything we havn't already heard before from people who actually bother to read?
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Used to cost me around 7 english pounds a month per account. Its now around 11.50-12 pounds a month per account. or 23-24 pounds in one pop per account every 2 months. Thats over a 50% rise in cost of playing eve.
presumably you're paying in ISK to see this kind of jump? if so, do you have a valid reason not to pay by credit card?
the global economy is out of CCP's reach, and as they're one of the few publishers that provide a legitimate way of buying ingame currency for real-life cash within a player-driven economy, it's not really their responsibility to impose limits on what should be charged.
i have to say, the price of EVE hasn't changed for me in the four years i've been playing because for 50 cents a day, i'd rather just stick it on my card.
if you don't have, or can't get a card, that might say something about your current situation. if you don't want a credit card (for whatever reason) don't complain that the alternative doesnt' suit your taste. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
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Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: ouroboros trading 30 days used to cost 160million ish and now it's double that. ain't that 100% ;oP
whilst it doesn't affect me i can observe that the market is being exposed to unhealthy influences which drive the prices of game time up; isk farmers think nothing of paying more, where-as a normal casual player will wince at the 100% rise in game time cost. Isk farmers carry on, casual players get hurt, players who sell GTCs turn a blind eye and say 'market forces'.
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Originally by: Ishikari In game isk prices are set by players, players will sell them for what people will pay. So, blame the players for the high isk prices.
Then maybe CCP should set a max limit on what GTC's can be sold for in isk. Thats also does not change the fact that the real life money cost of GTC's and playing the game has risen to over 50% more than before.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Typical responces.....Anything we havn't already heard before from people who actually bother to read?
what response are you looking for?
the solution to your problem lays within your reach, but you want another, more palatable solution and so don't want to hear the perfectly logical responses? ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Typical responces.....
Seriously, what did you expect?
You whine about prices being too high, making you unable to pay for GTCs. We provide alternatives that are valid and doesn't require CCP to break their own rules AND create even more headaches for the company, yet you are still not satisfied!
Pay by CC, the price won't change as drastically as GTCs can and will. Pay for longer than 1 month and you save a few Ç. If CC is not an option, pay the price of a GTC or don't play at all. There really are no alternatives that will make it cheaper for YOU... |
ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:59:00 -
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thread is a troll. |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Used to cost me around 7 english pounds a month per account. Its now around 11.50-12 pounds a month per account. or 23-24 pounds in one pop per account every 2 months. Thats over a 50% rise in cost of playing eve.
presumably you're paying in ISK to see this kind of jump? if so, do you have a valid reason not to pay by credit card?
the global economy is out of CCP's reach, and as they're one of the few publishers that provide a legitimate way of buying ingame currency for real-life cash within a player-driven economy, it's not really their responsibility to impose limits on what should be charged.
i have to say, the price of EVE hasn't changed for me in the four years i've been playing because for 50 cents a day, i'd rather just stick it on my card.
if you don't have, or can't get a card, that might say something about your current situation. if you don't want a credit card (for whatever reason) don't complain that the alternative doesnt' suit your taste.
Ok credit card or not nothing to do with this. I have no problem making money in game or out of game but that doesn't mean just coz I can I should accept the rise in cost both in and out of game.
Also no that actual jump in real life cost of playing eve is from shattered crystal cost of buying a 60 day time card that im looking at on my bank statement. A 50% rise in whats its cost before.
If stupid people and isk famres are hiking up the in game cost for gtc's than I see no reason why CCP can't just put a limit on what GTC's can be sold for. |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Typical responces.....Anything we havn't already heard before from people who actually bother to read?
what response are you looking for?
the solution to your problem lays within your reach, but you want another, more palatable solution and so don't want to hear the perfectly logical responses?
Actually was just looking for other ideas from people with more of an imagination that from people who just spout the most obvious stuff everyone has already heard a zillion times.
That's all mr sheep :) |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Typical responces.....Anything we havn't already heard before from people who actually bother to read?
You want a answer that suits your biased opinion on GTC's but there isn't one (well a feasable one anyways). Once the GTC is bought by the player it is owned by the player, not the company, and the player can do what he wants with it within reasonable restrictions, and by that I mean that the GTC can not be sold for real money (see terms and restrictions).
But it can be sold for in game money and the company does not police how much the GTC can be sold for, which is left to the owners discretion. IF the owner feels that the GTC is worth X amount of ingame isk then he will charge X amount. If someone pays X amount then the owner will retain the GTC price at X amount. Later he may see if he can sell for Y amount, and if someone pays Y then he will retain Y amount. |
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Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Ok I won't drag on as it been posted about before but is anything being done about the real life prices and the in game prices?
Used to cost me around 7 english pounds a month per account. Its now around 11.50-12 pounds a month per account. or 23-24 pounds in one pop per account every 2 months. Thats over a 50% rise in cost of playing eve.
This combined with the in game isk price rising to 300mill a month or 600 mill in one pop is making it impossible to pay for accounts one way or the other.
How is this benefiting eve or CCP in the long run?
Answer from a GM please.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant If stupid people and isk famres are hiking up the in game cost for gtc's than I see no reason why CCP can't just put a limit on what GTC's can be sold for.
Because some people that are now selling GTC's will feel forced to buy their ISK from an ISK seller. Means less GTC's for people like you. You would pay less, in the unlikely event you'd actually to be able to buy one. |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Explorers Ascendant on 19/11/2008 18:05:08
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Typical responces.....Anything we havn't already heard before from people who actually bother to read?
You want a answer that suits your biased opinion on GTC's but there isn't one (well a feasable one anyways). Once the GTC is bought by the player it is owned by the player, not the company, and the player can do what he wants with it within reasonable restrictions, and by that I mean that the GTC can not be sold for real money (see terms and restrictions).
But it can be sold for in game money and the company does not police how much the GTC can be sold for, which is left to the owners discretion. IF the owner feels that the GTC is worth X amount of ingame isk then he will charge X amount. If someone pays X amount then the owner will retain the GTC price at X amount. Later he may see if he can sell for Y amount, and if someone pays Y then he will retain Y amount.
Another nub stating the obvious.....anyone else?
Read all the posts and topic before bothering to post. |
Tasty Bit
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Ok I won't drag on as it been posted about before but is anything being done about the real life prices and the in game prices?
Used to cost me around 7 english pounds a month per account. Its now around 11.50-12 pounds a month per account. or 23-24 pounds in one pop per account every 2 months. Thats over a 50% rise in cost of playing eve.
This combined with the in game isk price rising to 300mill a month or 600 mill in one pop is making it impossible to pay for accounts one way or the other.
How is this benefiting eve or CCP in the long run?
Answer from a GM please.
It's 12 quid a month, ffs. |
CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant If stupid people and isk famres are hiking up the in game cost for gtc's than I see no reason why CCP can't just put a limit on what GTC's can be sold for.
Because they can now be traded on the ingame market. By saying a 30-day code must not cost more than 150 million ISK, they would indicate that the value of ingame currency is 10 million ISK = 1$/Ç. This would make the ISK farmers lower their prices, making it more attractive for the regular player to buy ISK from them instead of through the legal system. This is bad on a lot of levels, but if you can't see that, you fail at life and should trash all your items and cancel your accounts right away... |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tasty Bit
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant Ok I won't drag on as it been posted about before but is anything being done about the real life prices and the in game prices?
Used to cost me around 7 english pounds a month per account. Its now around 11.50-12 pounds a month per account. or 23-24 pounds in one pop per account every 2 months. Thats over a 50% rise in cost of playing eve.
This combined with the in game isk price rising to 300mill a month or 600 mill in one pop is making it impossible to pay for accounts one way or the other.
How is this benefiting eve or CCP in the long run?
Answer from a GM please.
It's 12 quid a month, ffs.
Used to be 7 ffs. |
ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:07:00 -
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it's only 24 pound a month per account, what's the problem? adapt or die. |
Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Explorers Ascendant
Originally by: Ishikari In game isk prices are set by players, players will sell them for what people will pay. So, blame the players for the high isk prices.
Then maybe CCP should set a max limit on what GTC's can be sold for in isk.
LOL
Sad to see, that some people really believe that this crap would solve anything. Here and in real world.
The problem is the increased demand of gtc by so many players. More and more players want to buy a gtc with isk, while probably not that many players have the real life money to buy isk via a gtc. Increased demand meets lowered suppy = higher prices.
Now lets assume you cap the price of the gtc. What will happen? Do you think that suddenly magically people will start to sell more gtc and increase the supply? Or do you think that somehow because the gtc price is lower now, fewer people will stop to buy gtc and reduce the demand therefore?
I can tell you what will happen: all the gtc available will be sold out quickly and after that you won't be able to get any gtc at all.
It is like in those socialist countries: everything is very cheap but when you want to buy something, you got told that it sold out already....
You know, you can always ask a player nicely if he might sell you a gtc for fewer isk, no one is forced to sell it for maximum price.
But to think that a price crap will do any good on the demand/supply side is beyond me. |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:08:00 -
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Like I said, you want a answer that suits your biased opinion. good luck bud |
Explorers Ascendant
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Explorers Ascendant on 19/11/2008 18:10:53 Edited by: Explorers Ascendant on 19/11/2008 18:09:43
Originally by: CrayC
Originally by: Explorers Ascendant If stupid people and isk famres are hiking up the in game cost for gtc's than I see no reason why CCP can't just put a limit on what GTC's can be sold for.
Because they can now be traded on the ingame market. By saying a 30-day code must not cost more than 150 million ISK, they would indicate that the value of ingame currency is 10 million ISK = 1$/Ç. This would make the ISK farmers lower their prices, making it more attractive for the regular player to buy ISK from them instead of through the legal system. This is bad on a lot of levels, but if you can't see that, you fail at life and should trash all your items and cancel your accounts right away...
So you justify it by saying that the evil isk farmers are worse off by punishing the players that don't buy isk off them. Ok i get it now....jezz im sorry
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Like I said, you want a answer that suits your biased opinion. good luck bud
You don't know me so = wrong. read my first post you will see that nub. |
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